Save the Ring
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Just read about this at lunch. Found the last bit interesting:
http://www.roadandtrack.com/racing/racing-news/nurburging-sold-to-new-investors
http://www.roadandtrack.com/racing/racing-news/nurburging-sold-to-new-investors
mister dog
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The 'ring has been saved 
(Jalopnik was where I herd it first)
(Jalopnik was where I herd it first)
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The 'ring has been saved
(Jalopnik was where I herd it first)
I would hardly call it saved. The people running Capricorn may be good at running a middle-sized car parts company, but running a car parts company is entirely different than running a race track (especially on the size of the ring)(The same can be said for HIG as well).
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At the press conference it has been mentioned that touristenfahrten and amateur racing will remain part of the Nurburgring. If that means increasing prices or whatever remains to be seen.
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The part I found interesting was (if true) was HIG (evil American investors) wanted to focus more on public track days, while Capricorn (German good guys) wanted to lean more heavily on the track being a manufacturer test track.
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- youngun_great
Not sure how the Germans do road laws but Private or Public doesn't matter if the system stays the same with races days off limits for public, manufactuers paying to use track rather than just the toll fee (which is a bit cheating). Now all money going in through each direction purely goes towards the track and not the german road system.
They may need to get things like light, noise, food, drink etc permits as its now a private business rather than a public/government facility. And i can see a few complaints arrise from surrounding areas, not really sure how they can improve the track as its always been well maintained and looked after.
The full surround HD cameras and digital boards sounds like a good idea. And more surround facilities outside the circuit too. Really wish they would open up the GP curcuit too as a seperate thing.
They may need to get things like light, noise, food, drink etc permits as its now a private business rather than a public/government facility. And i can see a few complaints arrise from surrounding areas, not really sure how they can improve the track as its always been well maintained and looked after.
The full surround HD cameras and digital boards sounds like a good idea. And more surround facilities outside the circuit too. Really wish they would open up the GP curcuit too as a seperate thing.
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There is a significant difference in the announced plans of HIG and Capricorn. HIG planned to build around the tourism for trackdays and planned to expand the Eifel Dorf and business park around it. This strategy would be damaging to local economy since it would place the business monopole to the Ring's owners. Capricorn have announced to get rid of the Rollercoaster and the Eifel Dorf (two components of the Ring that are largely responsible for the deficits) and want to leave hotels and consumables to local businesses.
But the Ring's future is still a bit sketchy, as there are still complaints in EU courts and the ADAC has possibilities to sue for discrimination in the bidding process (they where not allowed into the bidding stage). If these court issues are sucessful, Capricorn can step down from the offer and the whole fun starts over again.
But the Ring's future is still a bit sketchy, as there are still complaints in EU courts and the ADAC has possibilities to sue for discrimination in the bidding process (they where not allowed into the bidding stage). If these court issues are sucessful, Capricorn can step down from the offer and the whole fun starts over again.
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It's actually a toll road and if I'm not mistaken most toll roads are private. Don't know if that's the case in Germany.
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I wish James May would have bought it. 
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But he would bomb it lmao.I wish James May would have bought it.
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I think its the BEST place to test. Allot of slow bend, fast bends, long sweeps, long straights, chicanes, complex systems, multiple control points and 12.6 miles to get the improved time over previous model. (Shorter track wouldn't show much change). Other then Le Mans track but 1/3 is a straight which isnt level, this has everything bar an offroad section. Which only few 4x4s test.
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Unless what they test is how fast the car can go safely, it's pointless. I don't think anyone would push a 911 GT2 to its limits there. It's too dangerous.
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Besides, track conditions could change by the time they finish a single lap. I'd rather test them on a small track and see a marginal improvement over test on the nordschlieffe and see -5s improvement.
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It wouldn't be fun if the car was at it's limit the entire time on the track, there are areas where you can go all out but sometimes it's the driver's judgement. That's what makes this a great track to drive and test cars on.
Personally I have my hands full with my 160hp Audi so lots of respect to whoever can take a GT2 around there fast but safe.
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