Scottish Independence

[Touring Mars]

So, what's the general atmosphere like in Scotland at the moment? Have passions risen yet in any polling stations?

Atmosphere is pretty normal around here - it's also Fresher's Week and so there are people handing out fliers left, right and centre anyway. Bastards ignored me though.

There are rumours that some pubs are staying open tonight - and I strongly suspect that there will be lock-ins aplenty, especially in certain pubs that are very likely to be filled with pro-independence people.

It could yet be carnage.

 

[Stotty]

Markets seem pretty confident of a no vote as FTSE and Sterling are both performing strongly in early trading... though the Pound hasn't recovered all of the losses against the dollar from last week.

 

[Liquid]

VoteYesScotland has been the #1 Twitter trend for the last 3-4 hours. "Union Jack" is 7th, behind "Micky Adams" who resigned as manager of Port Vale FC this morning.

 

[axletramp]

Of course, the 'No' vote isn't going to be the end of the line for those seeking independence. I think this can be seen as a genuine kick up the arse for the UK government and show them that there are real voices to be heard and issues to deal with. Hopefully then, if independence is indeed the determined route, everyone involved can start planning properly for it to happen for everyone's benefit.

Well, that's a 'look', I suppose:

 

[TheCracker]

Stick him in an M3 convertible and he'll be the most spat on thing in Scotland today.

 

[Touring Mars]

Ironically, he is standing at the top of the Mound in Edinburgh, less than 100 yards away from what really is the most spat on thing in Scotland, The Heart Of Midlothian. (Spitting on it is meant to bring good luck - but perhaps it would be a good idea if the neds didn't also spit their chewing gum on to it in the process though).

 

[Liquid]

Wait, people walk past the Heart Of Midlothian and spit on it? That's actually quite disgusting. Even if you are a Hibs fan.

 

[Touring Mars]

That's the way we roll up here.

 

[axletramp]

OK, forget what I said before, VOTE 'YES' NOW!

 

[Touring Mars]

My mate just put a £50 bet on a 55-60% NO vote and they gave him odds of 100/1...

It was only when he posted it on Facebook that a friend pointed out that they've misunderstood his bet and given him odds on a No win and a 55-60% turnout, which is very unlikely... I think he's gone back to the shop to clarify the bet.

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

Personally I'm not bothered if Scotland stay or leave the union but if they do leave it'll be interesting to see how they cope alone.

If it turns out to be a success and Yorkshire wants a whiff of this independence I'll be straight down the poll station with a yes vote.

 

[axletramp]

 

[Famine]

My mate just put a £50 bet on a 55-60% NO vote and they gave him odds of 100/1...

It was only when he posted it on Facebook that a friend pointed out that they've misunderstood his bet and given him odds on a No win and a 55-60% turnout, which is very unlikely... I think he's gone back to the shop to clarify the bet.

I think it'll be 60:40 in favour of No in the end.

 

[SniperRed3]

I went to Edinburgh about 2 weeks ago and noone even spoke about independance. It's a great place, the buses are great!

 

[Tired Tyres]

Personally I'm not bothered if Scotland stay or leave the union but if they do leave it'll be interesting to see how they cope alone.

If it turns out to be a success and Yorkshire wants a whiff of this independence I'll be straight down the poll station with a yes vote.

No kidding on that. A yes vote will ultimately end the westminster centralised government in favour of regionalised government, and not before time either.

 

[Liquid]

No kidding on that. A yes vote will ultimately end the westminster centralised government in favour of regionalised government, and not before time either.

England needs a parliament first, before Yorkshire or Cornwall.

 

[Touring Mars]

I went to Edinburgh about 2 weeks ago and noone even spoke about independance. It's a great place, the buses are great!

We just spent £1billion on new trams and you took the sodding BUS?!

No kidding on that. A yes vote will ultimately end the westminster centralised government in favour of regionalised government, and not before time either.

The referendum itself might have made this far more likely regardless of the result.

 

[axletramp]

I'm concerned that of all that Edinburgh has to offer it was the buses that deserved specific praise.

I think it'll be 60:40 in favour of No in the end.

Yup, me too.

 

[SniperRed3]

Yeah, it was convenient just jump on the 11 outside our camp site then stop on princes street. The buses are better than the the ones down in England. THEY HAD TARTAN SEATS. But honestly great people, great food and a great place, the royal mile is a bit too touristy for me though.

 

[SVT Cobra GT]

No kidding on that. A yes vote will ultimately end the westminster centralised government in favour of regionalised government, and not before time either.

I would support that no end.

No doubt if Yorkshire was independent, flat caps and white rose flags would be a mandatory household item.

 

[Liquid]

THEY HAD TARTAN SEATS.

Old Leyland Nationals had tartan seats

@SVT Cobra GT, @Tired Tyres Sorry to break it to you guys but your dream is many years away yet:

England needs a parliament first, before Yorkshire or Cornwall.

Any news on exit polls, by the way?

 

[Rallywagon]

Funny stuff. But, that does bring about an interesting notion. It would be neat to see all of the old Celtic nations from Antiquity take their independence and form a Celtic Union.
BTW, good luck to the yes voters out there today. I may be American born, but as most Americans, Most of my blood comes from Europe, Galloway to be more specific. I for one would like to see an independent Scotland.

 

[Sureboss]

I don't think news on exit polls is allowed today unless I've been mis-reading things.

 

[SniperRed3]

Quick question. What happens to the Shetland islands if scotland goes independent?

 

[axletramp]

Old Leyland Nationals had tartan seats

So did late 70s and early 80s Porsches. What can it mean?

Quick question. What happens to the Shetland islands if scotland goes independent?

That's up to them, but most likely nothing at all.

 

[Touring Mars]

Reuters reported earlier that they don't know of any official exit polls - the BBC also said last night that there will be no exit polls either.

 

[Liquid]

But I'm going to a (genuine) Irish bar later! It's full of Saxons and Celts and I don't want us to be playing a guessing game.

 

[SniperRed3]

That's up to them, but most likely nothing at all.

Alot of them would prefer to remain part of Britain. They also have alot of oil. Source

 

[Touring Mars]

Quick question. What happens to the Shetland islands if scotland goes independent?

They will be part of an independent Scotland as well, although some people have noted 'The Shetland Card', a Westminster plot to offer Shetland a referendum on staying part of the UK in the event of a Yes vote today... but I don't see it happening myself. That said, Shetland could decide it wants more autonomy from Edinburgh and then Alex Salmond would have to launch a 'Better Together' campaign of his own to stop them buggering off with 50% of Scotland's oil. Oh the irony.

This was discussed in the Guardian newspaper yesterday:

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...r-place-scotland-yes-vote-alistair-carmichael

 

[Liquid]

That said, Shetland could decide it wants more autonomy from Edinburgh and then Alex Salmond would have to launch a 'Better Together' campaign of his own to stop them buggering off with 50% of Scotland's oil. Oh the irony.

I will pay actual pounds sterling for this to happen.