Searching For Evidence of Hidden Things

Overload_35 · Dec 9, 2016

NoGoodNames
Courtesy of @SuperFrizzio, he found a new car in the Test Drive disc. It's the red Citroen Xsara Rally Car from GT3 and onwards, apparently was supposed to appear in GT2 as well: View attachment 613011

Really the first to have it caught was Tanner D92, I remember the video of the mod's

SuperFrizzio · Dec 9, 2016

NoGoodNames
Courtesy of @SuperFrizzio, he found a new car in the Test Drive disc. It's the red Citroen Xsara Rally Car from GT3 and onwards, apparently was supposed to appear in GT2 as well: View attachment 613011

I'm currently expanding the TCRF page with more contents :cool:

https://tcrf.net/Proto:Gran_Turismo_2

RandomCarGuy17 · Dec 9, 2016

Man, I gotta get my hands on a Test Drive disc.

EDIT: Tanner is back!

JakeMR2 · Dec 13, 2016

Well, looking at the course map files I found a test map in the final game version 1.2.

It's called Gtest.tim, wonder if we can load the map in the arcade disc or somewhere in the game we can load this track from. I can tell from the file name that it is a test map stating "Game Test", but not for certain about it.

BisharpVercetti · Dec 13, 2016

JakeMR2
Well, looking at the course map files I found a test map in the final game version 1.2.

It's called Gtest.tim, wonder if we can load the map in the arcade disc or somewhere in the game we can load this track from. I can tell from the file name that it is a test map stating "Game Test", but not for certain about it.

If memory serves, Gtest.tim is either Apricot Hill or Motorsports Land. I can't really recall, but I do remember opening it.

EDIT: It's Grindelwald actually.

BisharpVercetti · Dec 13, 2016

Alright. First of all, I'd like to apologise for double posting

Here's the Gtest.tim map:

Now, about the map.tim files.
Most of them are duplicates, and strangely enough, they're not all the same quality.
The license test ones are all dropped in quality. Here's a comparison between the Pikes Peak map and the Pikes Peak downhill license test map:

Not only is it dropped in quality, but the inaccessible parts of the track are chopped off the map itself.
Unused reverse versions of Laguna Seca, Super Speedway and Test Track also have their own separate maps, although they suffer the same quality drop that the license test maps do.

That's all I have to offer for now. I am not sure if I'll explore demo maps, as I'm not even sure if they have any.

Overload_35 · Dec 13, 2016

Tahiti Dirt Ruote 3 (reverse) Have the map in low quality.

MMRivit · Dec 13, 2016

Like our mate mentioned, the low-quality versions of the minimaps are used by the reverse/alternate versions of the courses.

BisharpVercetti · Dec 13, 2016

Makes me wonder why this happens, when they could've just used the same maps as the regular versions of the courses. Guess PD overlooked this...

karelpipa · Dec 13, 2016

Tahiti Road Reverse also has track map in bad quality (from beta version)

SuperFrizzio · Dec 13, 2016

Yeah I discovered this awhile ago (10 years ago or something) while I was playing Tahiti Road Reverse.

Doomotron · Dec 13, 2016

BisharpVercetti
Alright. First of all, I'd like to apologise for double posting
Here's the Gtest.tim map:

Now, about the map.tim files.
Most of them are duplicates, and strangely enough, they're not all the same quality.
The license test ones are all dropped in quality. Here's a comparison between the Pikes Peak map and the Pikes Peak downhill license test map:

Not only is it dropped in quality, but the inaccessible parts of the track are chopped off the map itself.
Unused reverse versions of Laguna Seca, Super Speedway and Test Track also have their own separate maps, although they suffer the same quality drop that the license test maps do.

That's all I have to offer for now. I am not sure if I'll explore demo maps, as I'm not even sure if they have any.

So that means they would have had reverse versions? The Corkscrew the other way would be interesting...

BisharpVercetti · Dec 13, 2016

Doomotron
So that means they would have had reverse versions? The Corkscrew the other way would be interesting...

Knock yourself out 👍

Doomotron · Dec 13, 2016

BisharpVercetti
Knock yourself out 👍

Xenn · Dec 17, 2016

Using script trickery, I was able to make a map of the Rally Special Stage L_dirt_test3 from the US bonus disc.

Maps

L_dart_test2

L_dirt_test1

L_dirt_test3

L_test2

If you guys are interested in more maps, let me know.

Sonygamer455 · Dec 17, 2016

Xenn
Using script trickery, I was able to make a map of the Rally Special Stage L_dirt_test3 from the US bonus disc.

If you guys are interested in more maps, let me know.

Great work! Hope to see more, namely the dart test track. Been wanting to make this in GT6.

GTPVenomZombie · Dec 18, 2016

Xenn
Using script trickery, I was able to make a map of the Rally Special Stage L_dirt_test3 from the US bonus disc.

If you guys are interested in more maps, let me know.

I`m interested

Xenn · Dec 18, 2016

Here's L_dart_test2. I'll be adding this to my initial map post.

Xenn · Dec 18, 2016

Here's L_dirt_test1. At first glance it looks like a larger L_dart_test2, but it's definitely a different map.

BisharpVercetti · Dec 18, 2016

More please!

MMRivit · Dec 18, 2016

Neat. If it's not too much work, could you also do L_dirt_test2, as well as test and test2? (And the "Tahiti Test" ones, if those didn't turn out to be beta versions of final tracks...)

Xenn · Dec 19, 2016

Definitely not a problem, I was thinking of working on those aswell. I'll work on it now.

Stephan · Dec 20, 2016

Regarding about the E3 build, I did manage to find a partial direct feed gameplay of GT2. It's around the 1:15:00 mark.

I found this photo in Reddit, it's just a ticket to being able to play GT2 in E3 back in 1999.

BisharpVercetti · Dec 20, 2016

Misaligned rear wheels on some cars.
Also, SSR11.
And also, burnouts in arcade mode?

Xenn · Dec 25, 2016

Hey guys, i'm still working on the maps.

I'm trying to find methods that would save time and not consume so much RAM on my PC. Long tracks don't like this method i'm using. I'll be sure to post them soon.

Xenn · Dec 26, 2016

Here's L_test2. I tried to be as accurate as possible.

Xenn · Dec 26, 2016

Here's some more maps for you guys.

tahiti_test_short

L_test1

Judging from the tahiti_test_short map, it's probably a safe bet tahiti_test6 is a duplicate map of another track. I'll take a look into which one it is soon.

Doomotron · Dec 26, 2016

Xenn
Here's some more maps for you guys.

tahiti_test_short

L_test1

Judging from the tahiti_test_short map, it's probably a safe bet tahiti_test6 is a duplicate map of another track. I'll take a look into which one it is soon.

It's Smokey Mountain South, known from GT3 onwards as Swiss Alps.

MMRivit · Dec 26, 2016

Doomotron
It's Smokey Mountain South, known from GT3 onwards as Swiss Alps.

Which is quite odd considering that the demos (2nd build onwards) also feature "No Name Dirt 2", which is what made it to retail as Smokey Mountain South.

Quick unrelated question: does anybody have a list of all known magazines that published pre-release articles about GT2? I'm particularly interested on finding out when the CLK-GTR screenshots first surfaced.

Stephan · Dec 27, 2016

I found this old magazine lying around archive.org's site. It can be downloaded in PDF.
https://archive.org/details/100_Playstation_Trucos_y_Tacticas_01

While reading, I found something. Not the CLK-GTR but something.

Why is the Mini MK.1 Rally Car painted in white? Did it appear before?

Oh and the blue with white stripes color Viper is present.

BTW, did you guys already checked Playstation Demo Disk No.53 Vol.1? I saw a copy for sale in EBay. Just gonna leave a link if someone's interested in buying it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PLAYSTATION...IVE-DEMO-GRAN-TURISMO-2-PS1-PAL-/181829641974

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