Senna content coming soon?

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The cars were mentioned in text that will be in the game, it is in no way an indication the actual models will be available to drive.
 
That has always been a major issue, PD models cars without considering a competitor. Look at the Aussies, Ford got an old racecar while Holden has two streetcars. Challenger and Camaro RM are alright, yet where´s the Mustangs? Older DTMs Opel is 1994; Alfa 1995 and the Benz 1992 ... :banghead:

What´s the point in this?

Even the Hudson would make more sense with a couple of cars the same age and specs, but if stands alone its useless.

We get cars that are good for one time trial most of us get gold after the first couple of laps/tries and after that we never need the car again.

Edit: Alfa is 1993.
 
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Flaco13
That has always been a major issue, PD models cars without considering a competitor. Look at the Aussies, Ford got an old racecar while Holden has two streetcars. Challenger and Camaro RM are alright, yet where´s the Mustangs? Older DTMs Opel is 1994; Alfa 1995 and the Benz 1992 ... :banghead:
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I see you forgot about the Astra and the CLK touring car, both from 2000 (along with the Audi TT-R and Audi A4 Touring car), which I'm sure makes them cars with competitors. Also I'm pretty sure the Super GT cars as well as the NASCAR cars along with the WRC cars have competitors as well.


Also, I'm pretty sure we're discussing Senna content and not about the lack of rival cars.
 
Well I guess he's referring to the Lotus, which won't have any competition, but as we know that's a special case out of PDs hands, unlike the other examples.
 
RACECAR
I see you forgot about the Astra and the CLK touring car, both from 2000 (along with the Audi TT-R and Audi A4 Touring car), which I'm sure makes them cars with competitors.


Also, I'm pretty sure we're discussing Senna content and not about the lack of rival cars.
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The Audi´s you mentioned are not 2000 models which is exactly what I was adressing as being an issue.

Senna content includes yet another standalone car (Lotus) and I compared it to the Hudson because they are equally useless as long they remain without at least one competitive car from the same year and class.
 
Flaco13
The Audi´s you mentioned are not 2000 models which is exactly what I was adressing as an issue.
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True that they aren't and I'll even concede the A4 is especially on its own. However even without the Mustang having a race car, the Camaro and Challenger are still competing cars. Point I'm saying is you say PD never models cars without competitors when their are multiple examples that they have. It isn't that they don't, they just aren't consistant with it.

Flaco13
Senna content includes yet another standalone car (Lotus) and I compared it to the Hudson because they are equally useless as long they remain without at least one competitive car from the same year and class.
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Pretty sure the point behind having the Hudson is that you aren't just driving any Hudson, you are driving Mario Andretti's Hudson. I don't see anyone else clamoring for more Hudsons to compete with it.

The Lotus as Samus already pointed out is a case that's completely out of PD's hands (and for that matter any developer that isn't Codemasters). Even with that, it serves the same point.
 
Flaco13
The Audi´s you mentioned are not 2000 models which is exactly what I was adressing as being an issue.

Senna content includes yet another standalone car (Lotus) and I compared it to the Hudson because they are equally useless as long they remain without at least one competitive car from the same year and class.
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What about the Ferrari F10 and F2007 form GT5? They were different years apart but they were pretty competitive with each other.
 
RACECAR
True that they aren't and I'll even concede the A4 is especially on its own. However even without the Mustang having a race car, the Camaro and Challenger are still competing cars. Point I'm saying is you say PD never models cars without competitors when their are multiple examples that they have. It isn't that they don't, they just aren't consistant with it.
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I never said they would never... I was only using the examples where they failed on being consistent, as you call it. Yes the old Challenger and Camaro make good cars for racing series, the SuperGT and Nascars do too. But with a Mustang it would be even better, a vintage DTM race of all say 1993 models would make sense, one being from 92 the next from 93 and a 94, IMO doesn´t!


RACECAR
Pretty sure the point behind having the Hudson is that you aren't just driving any Hudson, you are driving Mario Andretti's Hudson. I don't see anyone else clamoring for more Hudsons to compete with it.
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I don´t see anyone even using this car at all.


RACECAR
The Lotus as Samus already pointed out is a case that's completely out of PD's hands (and for that matter any developer that isn't Codemasters). Even with that, it serves the same point.
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If you are happy with it the way it is, fine.

So I´m probably going to do a time trial with that Lotus and drive it on my own if I feel like it and when I want to race it online the only way to do so is as a one-make race. Me personally, I just find this extremly boring.
 
He didn't say he was happy with it, he said in that specific example and the subject of this thread there is nothing PD can do about it.
 
Why not? They have so good relationships with car makers and companies from the motorsports world. Sure, if they wanted to they could get '85 Ferraris or Williams licensed.
 
Flaco13
Why not? They have so good relationships with car makers and companies from the motorsports world. Sure, if they wanted to they could get Ferraris and the likes licensed.
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No, they couldn't. Well, not so that they can race each other anyway. We've been over this several times, if you want to have two or more different F1 cars race each other you need a Formula 1 license, and since Codemasters have the exclusive on that then PD are out of luck.
 
Codemasters have the exclusives even on that generation of F1 cars? Well I stand corrected then, I didn´t know that.

Evil companies! lol

Could PD at least make some made up cars in a sort of 85 F1 car shape? I mean they are experienced in that kind of thing...
 
Samus
No, they couldn't. Well, not so that they can race each other anyway. We've been over this several times, if you want to have two or more different F1 cars race each other you need a Formula 1 license, and since Codemasters have the exclusive on that then PD are out of luck.
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Is that current gen F1 only? How does Forza have Lauda's Ferrari and Hunts Mclaren then? And the Lotus-Renault? (And I know of Codies dealings with the license)
 
That's how SMS (and PD back in 2005) got around licensing, just make an original one!
 
I don't want to complain about the lack of competitors, but the Lotus 97T alone is pretty much in a class of its own, like the FGT or the Red Bull Xs, but the FGT is a 'prototype', not a replica like the F1 included in GT3.
Again, I hope for more than a single F1 car, licensed or not, replica or completely original.
MOAR F1 CARS! we are hungry for open wheel cars!
 
Furinkazen
Is that current gen F1 only? How does Forza have Lauda's Ferrari and Hunts Mclaren then? And the Lotus-Renault? (And I know of Codies dealings with the license)
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A, something related to the Rush movie and b, because it's a solo car. That is fine, you can license a solo car from the manufacturer.
 
Basically, this is how it works (assuming I'm reading this correctly): Any developers can have an F1 car, but they can't have more then one because they only have the license to that car, not the F1 license required to race more then one F1 car. Can't make any sense out of why they have to have it work like that, but what we have to deal with.
 
Can developers outside of Codemasters license multiple F1 cars but have them not able race against each other or is that not possible?
 
RACECAR
Basically, this is how it works (assuming I'm reading this correctly): Any developers can have an F1 car, but they can't have more then one because they only have the license to that car, not the F1 license required to race more then one F1 car. Can't make any sense out of why they have to have it work like that, but what we have to deal with.
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Basically it's because the teams own the rights to their own cars but Bernie and co own the right to "Formula 1 Racing" and so if you want to replicate that, you need to talk to Bernie and co.

Gerarghini
Can developers outside of Codemasters license multiple F1 cars but have them not able race against each other or is that not possible?
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Unknown, but no other game has done that to my knowledge. It's either Codemasters with everything or a multitude of games with only one, with the Forza 5 exception which may be because it only became the Formula 1 World Championship with the first concorde agreement in 1980, and before that there is free reign.
 
No karts here, this is what I'm getting
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