Share your GTS car setups, List on post #1
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@RafaZ don't take it personally, usually it's courteous to give props to the guy who's set up you used as they were good enough to share it 👍
We all try other peoples set ups and it's pretty hard to keep track of them all, unfortunately your set up share was on the same page as the original share and you paid the price for it
We all try other peoples set ups and it's pretty hard to keep track of them all, unfortunately your set up share was on the same page as the original share and you paid the price for it
@RafaZ don't take it personally, usually it's courteous to give props to the guy who's set up you used as they were good enough to share it 👍
We all try other peoples set ups and it's pretty hard to keep track of them all, unfortunately your set up share was on the same page as the original share and you paid the price for it
That's true. It was my first post here. I just want to share what works better to me, cuz i tried his setup when I saw last night and only got 1.51+
I tried some changes and drop more than 1sec. We all have different skills and styles and maybe this could help someone. I hope everyone understand that.
If I ever again post something here, I'll explain better were I started that! Kkkk
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Well I've been pushed out of the top ten now. Still, not a bad run for me to last until Wednesday!
I'm using a tune posted by @ItsAllAboutWins for Willow, with just a couple of changes - front camber to 1.8, and final gear to 2.155. Tweaking the LSD might get me another tenth or so, I don't know. Some of the fine-tuning is really down to what suits your style rather than absolute pace, although obviously you want to get through key corners as fast as possible. Because, in the end, you need to be able to race with it.
If you're still improving, keep practising! I seemed to hit my limit on that combo, after putting in quite a lot of laps.
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- GaNn0n187
I'm using Praianos tune for the genesis gr3 from Nurb on dragon trail with minor changes to camber 2.1F, 2.4R and transmission. Currently I have a 1:37.755 3rd in US. This car is the best all round gr3 car with new update. With Praianos tune you can do no wrong thank you for all your tunes. Let me know what you guys think.
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Don´t forget that the power incresed from 422 kW to 441 kW at same weight while for example the SLS Gr.3 decreased from 442 kW to 416 kW now with 25 kg lost.
So which car is the best depends not only in a small issue to the Balance of Performance.
But praiano´s tunes are the best!!
Cheers
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Thank you. I noticed a difference in bop in the new update n didn't realize it was that much of a difference. For the most part it looks like you can use a variety of different cars to get fast laps now but the genesis the clear front runner this time. New time 1:37.646 with an optimal of 1:37.096. 1:36s are out there!Don´t forget that the power incresed from 422 kW to 441 kW at same weight while for example the SLS Gr.3 decreased from 442 kW to 416 kW now with 25 kg lost.
So which car is the best depends not only in a small issue to the Balance of Performance.
But praiano´s tunes are the best!!
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- JoeCoyote
I am wondering if one of you pros can explain if there is much advantage (or disadvantage) in manual shifting vs automatic gears.
I can see in some youtube posts that top ten qualifiers used atm, some use manual trans.
For me the Scirocco for example is faster with atm than with manual. Was able to temporarily drive into top ten last night in BH Indy with 49,360 (opt 48,977 - but unable to combine the sectors to an optimal lap). I used @EDK / @Firehuntah setup as basis, then set front 5/5/5 rear 1/1/1, camber 1,5/1,0 and rear wing 550. lsd 15/45/5, final gear 4,085 with 6th @ 0,981.
Thx EDK/Firehuntah.
Next question in the shifting issue:
Setting up the perfect gear ratio for Nordschleife might also be more important than for shorter tracks with less elevations like for example BH Indy. How do I determine the right gear ratios?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
I can see in some youtube posts that top ten qualifiers used atm, some use manual trans.
For me the Scirocco for example is faster with atm than with manual. Was able to temporarily drive into top ten last night in BH Indy with 49,360 (opt 48,977 - but unable to combine the sectors to an optimal lap). I used @EDK / @Firehuntah setup as basis, then set front 5/5/5 rear 1/1/1, camber 1,5/1,0 and rear wing 550. lsd 15/45/5, final gear 4,085 with 6th @ 0,981.
Thx EDK/Firehuntah.
Next question in the shifting issue:
Setting up the perfect gear ratio for Nordschleife might also be more important than for shorter tracks with less elevations like for example BH Indy. How do I determine the right gear ratios?
Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
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Gearing and shifting is about keeping the car in the optimum power band.
If you look at the power on the main setup screen, the top right will show you a power and toque curve for the car. Most of the cars like being shifted right up at the limiter, when the meter is flashing. But a few, example is the Lancer, like to be shifted at a lower RPM, due to a drop in power toward redline.
The right gears for a particular track should have the car at around your shifting point in the highest gear at the fastest section of the track, so you are optimizing the amount of time you are full throttle with full power.
The other gears should be set to best suit the cornering speeds, while also keeping the power band in mind. So in other words, when you shift up, the car should drop into the meat of the power in the next gear.
It's also good to avoid awkward last second upshifts leading to a corner, if you have the opportunity to lengthen a gear slightly to avoid shifting, you should do that.
Manual trans should provide an advantage in most circumstances. It will help you with car control, and will allow you to pick your shift point based on power band. It will also allow you to choose the gear you use for a specific corner, avoiding unnecessary downshifts or momentary use of a low gear in a tight bend.
Hope that helps.
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I've switched to AT to test it and the gears shift a bit late than the power band recommends to shift at, so it affects speed for a second. Besides this quirk, AT in the beta is effective in combating wheelspin on corner exits if you drive with TCS off, as the gears adjust to compliment the potential wheelspin.
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Have you tried @Firehuntah 's ? I'm using that with just final gear changed (so 5th says max 150mph, IIRC). Pretty sure he's tweaked it since posting it, because I'm nowhere close to his time. Yes, that must be it, not that he's faster than me and has had more practise with it!
Compared to GT-R it feels horrible and slow coming out of corners, but ends up with less time on the clock
Oh, and you end up using the speedo to know when to change up, it wheelspins so much.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...s-list-on-post-1.354696/page-31#post-11835842
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Thanks for the link went 5 seconds quicker the first lap i did comapired to my best with the gtr.Have you tried @Firehuntah 's ? I'm using that with just final gear changed (so 5th says max 150mph, IIRC). Pretty sure he's tweaked it since posting it, because I'm nowhere close to his time. Yes, that must be it, not that he's faster than me and has had more practise with it!
Compared to GT-R it feels horrible and slow coming out of corners, but ends up with less time on the clock
Oh, and you end up using the speedo to know when to change up, it wheelspins so much.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...s-list-on-post-1.354696/page-31#post-11835842
Now sitting on a 7.39.232 and that was a super scruffy lap.
The only problem i found was the brake bias i never really like the cars at 0 just have to play around with that to find the happy spot for myself, and thanks to @Firehuntah for posting it up extreamly helpful
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Have you tried @Firehuntah 's ? I'm using that with just final gear changed (so 5th says max 150mph, IIRC). Pretty sure he's tweaked it since posting it, because I'm nowhere close to his time. Yes, that must be it, not that he's faster than me and has had more practise with it!
Compared to GT-R it feels horrible and slow coming out of corners, but ends up with less time on the clock
Oh, and you end up using the speedo to know when to change up, it wheelspins so much.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...s-list-on-post-1.354696/page-31#post-11835842
I am using the @Firehuntah / @EDK setup as mentioned prior even on Nordschleife with my small tweaks. Have 7.30 with optimum time 7.23.
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It takes a few laps to get into the swing of it - almost literally! - and even then it still feels really scruffy! You should start to get a feel for what it's good at, and then be able make better use of it.
It took me a bunch of laps to get 7:27-ish (I think) and, like you, that's still a few seconds off my optimal. It is quite easy to lose 0.5 seconds or more in a sector even when staying on track, unlike the GT-R.
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Test it, i think you can beat your time with it and the fun way. I have a 1:19.75x in an hour session this afternoon, the car feel great in the long first right turn. I think i can low 0.3 nailing the last turn.... This 4C is much more pleasant to drive than the GTR.
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Have you tried @Firehuntah 's ? I'm using that with just final gear changed (so 5th says max 150mph, IIRC). Pretty sure he's tweaked it since posting it, because I'm nowhere close to his time. Yes, that must be it, not that he's faster than me and has had more practise with it!
Compared to GT-R it feels horrible and slow coming out of corners, but ends up with less time on the clock
Oh, and you end up using the speedo to know when to change up, it wheelspins so much.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...s-list-on-post-1.354696/page-31#post-11835842
Also for @sportacus and @Kartz_312
It's actually still the same setup that I'm using, only the gearing is different which @Lord Protector came up with. Check his video (at the end) in this post for the gearing:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...and-screenshots.331389/page-311#post-11856277
Don't forget the toe angle, Lord Protector wasn't using it yet in his video.
For the rest, forget about what you learned with the GT-R.
The Scirocco needs a different way to drive. You can brake very late, let it role into the corners without any or not too much throttle and start accelerating out of the corner pretty late, just go full throttle and keep the wheels spinning. But also shift early to 3rd and 4th to reduce the wheelspin. You can see it in his video as well.
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Also for @sportacus and @Kartz_312
It's actually still the same setup that I'm using, only the gearing is different which @Lord Protector came up with. Check his video (at the end) in this post for the gearing:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...and-screenshots.331389/page-311#post-11856277
Don't forget the toe angle, Lord Protector wasn't using it yet in his video.
For the rest, forget about what you learned with the GT-R.
Ha, yes, it's a very different approach! Thanks very much for the tune and notes, and Lord P for the vid
In my hands the Scirocco is quite a blunt instrument, and I can't get it smooth through the technical sections, like the sector following Hohe Acht. I did my first races using it tonight, and, well, I hope I'll do better tomorrow! Starting behind a GT-R is a pain because you catch it up just before the bends before the start; starting behind another Scirocco made that calmer. I mean, I don't think it's right to try and pass before the start line, but I don't know about the driver behind...
@sportacus and @Kartz_312: The gears in the vid can be set by: Final Gear to 4.1, Max speed to minimum, (fiddle fiddle), Final to 2.832.
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Ha, yes, it's a very different approach! Thanks very much for the tune and notes, and Lord P for the vid
In my hands the Scirocco is quite a blunt instrument, and I can't get it smooth through the technical sections, like the sector following Hohe Acht. I did my first races using it tonight, and, well, I hope I'll do better tomorrow! Starting behind a GT-R is a pain because you catch it up just before the bends before the start; starting behind another Scirocco made that calmer. I mean, I don't think it's right to try and pass before the start line, but I don't know about the driver behind...
@sportacus and @Kartz_312: The gears in the vid can be set by: Final Gear to 4.1, Max speed to minimum, (fiddle fiddle), Final to 2.832.
Used @Lord Protector / @Firehuntah setup now. Was able to do a 7:25,595 with opt 7:24,203 after five laps. Thanks for the setup again and for posting the video. I was faster than with former setup with my tweaks, but to be honest: for me this setup is no fun to drive. Dont get me wrong, but I am really sweatening in my seat. Even on FFB level 2 my wheel (G29) makes noises like when wrongly setup in project cars. And I am really missing something like call it confidence in the behaviour of the chicoree. I always feel like now I am throwing it into botanic in the faster curvy sections like down from Hohe Acht.
Maybe it needs some more laps to get used to the handling...
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Yeah it definately needs some time to get used to, but seeing your times you're already doing good.
As for the G29, that's an issue with the FFB since update 1.06 and happens with pretty much all of the cars, not just the Scirocco. I have that as well, everyone using the G29 has it. There's a thread about it on the beta forums so it'll hopefully be fixed in the next update.
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I think we will just have to get used to feeling uncomfortable in the bit down from Hohe Acht! I mainly just coast through a lot of the complexes, with just a tiny amount of throttle to maintain speed. I have 7:25.345 now.
Did you use the toe from Firehuntah's set or the 0/0 from Lord Protector's? (I'm using FH's). Lord P's gears really seem to help with the wheel spin (compared to adjusting FH's to suit the ring), but maybe it goes in and out of understeer more which bothers the G29? I'm just guessing really, since I'm using DS4.
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I did under 7:20 with this setup... if your want try this one ^^
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