Shell out $500 to play GT7?

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No, I am not paying any price for GT7. I paid over $400 just to play GT Sport and
That you think that meeting some engineers and someone who you were related to selling them car parts is evidence of your "can do" attitude says an awful lot about you. You don't know what can do is, you just like it when other people can do it for you. And you get confused when they tell you that something is hard or impossible, because you're not willing to expand your knowledge enough to understand basic principles that might lead to a more effective and nuanced appreciation of the situation.

Which is exactly the point I was making when I said that you're every scientist and engineer's worst nightmare of a boss. People like you watch the video I posted and think "yeah, they just need to try harder and think outside the box a little more". The engineers and scientists who do the work watch the video and think "wow, that's spot on, this is giving me anxiety".

You don't know enough about AI and computers to make an informed judgement. So either educate yourself or stop trying. At the moment you're on the level of a child saying "I want it I want it".

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I get my information on basic fundamentals of computers from 40 years of using the things. If I'm wrong and current computer systems are in fact completely capable of making complex determinations of causation and fault with a high rate of accuracy from a set of text rules then feel free to point me to where I can learn more about that, because I'd like to use those systems in my professional life. But I don't think you can.

You don't answer questions, but I can answer yours. I fix my MX5 myself, because I enjoy it and I have the ability to do so. I take my Volvo to the local mechanic because it's a workhorse and I value spending my free time on other things. Like the MX5.

Choosing to get a professional to do something for you isn't evidence of a lack of can do attitude, it's evidence that I can correctly assess that my time is better spent doing other things than working on a car. I'm not on minimum wage trying to scrape every last penny, something that you learn as you rise through the ranks is that sometimes it's more efficient and effective to get someone else to do the work even if you could do it yourself. And while local Joe is fixing my car (and doing a damn fine job, because he's a good mechanic) I can use my specialised skills to do the things that make me good at what I do. We both win.

You would seem to be a mechanic of some sort, so tell me this. Why don't we all have flying cars? That seems like something that was pretty common in futuristic media back in the day, so clearly there's a desire for it. Why aren't they a common thing? Why can't you make me a flying car? Not enough can do attitude? Or are there good reasons why flying cars aren't a thing even though they are on paper technically possible?



Or the ones that were desperate for a job stayed, despite not liking you. You don't sound like you have a real strong grasp on what motivates people either. Having the money to afford food and a roof over your head is more important than working for someone who has a grasp of reality. Plenty of people will put up with working for a 🤬 boss in order to have a job.

The thing is we previously had a better version of the penalty system, PD just refuses to revert to it for some reason. The penalty system is so bad right now that PD could hardly get more wrong.
 
The thing is we previously had a better version of the penalty system, PD just refuses to revert to it for some reason. The penalty system is so bad right now that PD could hardly get more wrong.

There absolutely have been and are better versions of the penalty system. None are particularly good at assigning fault. Humans are bad at assigning fault consistently, and computers are generally worse at it.

IMO the no-fault systems are still the most effective in modern gaming, they're consistent and they provide everyone with incentive to avoid incidents (which is the entire point). The downside is that sometimes you feel like you're getting penalised for something you had nothing to do with, but that idea turns up a lot in real world racing too. Sometimes a real world driver has their race ended by someone else crashing into them, sometimes a wheel falls off because someone didn't do a nut up, sometimes your car turns into a gymnast and does a backflip on the Mulsanne straight. I think it's fine, even if it's clearly annoying as hell in the moment.
 
I was going to address a few of the PC comments but I’ll just say hobbies can get expensive gentlemen, depends how far you want to take it.
Gaming is cheap entertainment if you look at other options, just spent 14 grand on my other love, a new motorcycle.
Good friend has almost 10 grand invested in drones and RC helicopters.

Gaming is fantastic value for dollar.
 
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I was going to address a few of the PC comments but I’ll just say hobbies can get expensive gentlemen, depends how far you want to take it.

Gaming is cheap entertainment if you look at other options, just spent 14 grand on my other love, a new motorcycle.

Good friend has almost 10 grand invested in drones and RC helicopters.

Gaming is fantastic value for dollar.

You are absolutely correct, to race real cars with us it's hard to get by with less than $100,000 investment between the car, hauler, and equipment. Many drop $150-$200k just on haulers, its mind boggling. That's just for sportsman, not professional racing.
 
Jesus christ, do you guys just... not play other video games?
I play GTA V(offline), PC2, AC1, ACC(just stopped. Waiting for that GT4 DLC :) ).

I used to play NFS games after the very first Car & Driver game. ToCA games, F1 games, XBox 360 racing games, Game Cube racing games, Dreamcast racing games.
I initially buy a PlayStation for GT. If I see something else that gets my attention, I might buy it. No guarantee, but the GT game is my focus.
 
Go drive around on your weekend toy for a month and tell me how much u spent...once yo do the math, you are overthinking it.
Exactly. When I worked at a Mazda dealership, know what the number one complaint was? "My iPhone doesn't work with this car. "

So, imagine buying a $30,000 car and having to then, spend another $500 on a mobile phone, to use the hands-free feature.

Today, Mazda's have Apple car play, but people are shopping cars to see if the CAR is compatible with their mobile phone.:lol:

Anyway, consoles used to be $300 brand new and I thought was a lot to pay, just to play video games. Consoles are cd/DVD/Blu-ray players, HD/digital movie channel boxes, radio/music docks, app stations and of course, video game stations. $500 is a bargain.
 
Anyway, consoles used to be $300 brand new and I thought was a lot to pay, just to play video games. Consoles are cd/DVD/Blu-ray players, HD/digital movie channel boxes, radio/music docks, app stations and of course, video game stations. $500 is a bargain.
Especially when you consider how much phones cost these days. I guess you're paying for the portability.
 
Especially when you consider how much phones cost these days. I guess you're paying for the portability.
Definitely. Face timing, balancing finances, searching info, playing games, photography, videography, watching all types of content, voice commands, phone "talks back". Like you said, all that in your pocket. Amazing.
 
I will buy Ps5 for :

1: Gt7
2: The last of us part 2
3: ACC
4: PC3
5: Every other game title that will interest me in the feature...

GT 's are good games but i would never buy any console for just one game.

To me a console is a more budget friendly setup for my gaming - racing.
Not to mention the exclusives.

I would like to built a proper pc for iracing for example but it will cost me at least my console - tv set up for just the tower alone.

I just want a big fat 4k display in front of my rig or triples....Can't go less than that any more.
 
Each to their own but it boggles the mind that anyone would buy a console just for one game, missing out on so many fantastic experiences.. The Last Of Us (1+2) Red Dead, GTA..the list is endless, not to mention other fantastic driving games like Dirt 2.0, Driveclub (PS4’s greatest racer) :D
 
No, I am not paying any price for GT7. I paid over $400 just to play GT Sport and I am properly livid about the PS4 only getting this one GT title. Every previous PlayStation has received 2 (or more) Gran Turismo games/prologues. Polyphony Digital can kiss my rich rear end because I'm a smart shopper who is taking his money elsewhere. And after the way GT Sport played out, there will be no love lost whatsoever.
Let me get this straight you bought a 400$ console
(i assume quite a bit before GT Sport's release) just to play GT Sport based on how you thought the game was going to be?. Ok.. Also getting 2 titles on PS3 is literally the resson PS4 got only 1 . And if the differences are minimal like between GT5 & 6 why would you demand a new title at retail price instead of updates to the one thats already available ? .
 
Each to their own but it boggles the mind that anyone would buy a console just for one game, missing out on so many fantastic experiences.. The Last Of Us (1+2) Red Dead, GTA..the list is endless, not to mention other fantastic driving games like Dirt 2.0, Driveclub (PS4’s greatest racer) :D

I didnt even own my PS4 Pro until GTS was released. I would be interested in checking out more racing games on PS but I am very limited on time so yes, my free time goes into playing just 1 game on PS4 and it will likely be the same on PS5, why not? I have done the same with all of the Playstations and Gran Turismo's so far (XBox and Forza's too) I even still have all of the old counsels and games.
 
Each to their own but it boggles the mind that anyone would buy a console just for one game, missing out on so many fantastic experiences.. The Last Of Us (1+2) Red Dead, GTA..the list is endless, not to mention other fantastic driving games like Dirt 2.0, Driveclub (PS4’s greatest racer) :D
I will most likely buy 1 or 2 games for PS5 and they will be racing games only.
 
...do you guys just... not play other video games?
Yes, I play Gran Turismo Sport exclusively. I've owned each Playstation console & played Gran Turismo exclusively.

...its (sic) frankly very weird to get a console and only play one game.
A more diplomatic label for my gaming would be atypical.

To stay focused on the topic of this thread, I will purchase a PS5 system when GT7 releases. I will play it exclusively, as well. Using my money & my time, I quite am satisfied. With your time & your money, freely evaluate your personal satisfaction while better respecting mine.
 
I bought PS4 for GT Sport and will do same for GT7

I really do hope the game improves now looking at Forza 8.
Would be cool if MS actually showed 1 second of gameplay and gave an indication of the games direction. Hopefully not the rumoured story mode. Seems even with Ray Tracing they’ve stuck to their accustomed colour palette.

Playing GTS last night it was striking how crap the game looked. For something that had previously wowed me. That was almost entirely due to the vastly improved lighting and image quality I’ve become accustomed too. After watching the GT7 trailer.
 
Each to their own but it boggles the mind that anyone would buy a console just for one game, missing out on so many fantastic experiences.. The Last Of Us (1+2) Red Dead, GTA..the list is endless, not to mention other fantastic driving games like Dirt 2.0, Driveclub (PS4’s greatest racer) :D

The list may be endless but my time is not. If I wasn't such a tool I would not have purchased any new console since calico vision. Yet, NES, Sega Genesis, N64, PS1, PS2, PS3, Wii, PS4, Switch, are all consoles in my library. I'm probably only going to play 5 games for the PS5 over the course of this consoles life. As you can see I have not chosen Xbox over PS yet. My decision on PS5 vs Xbox X is most likely going to be on my valuation of GT7.
 
Does anyone think it's a bit odd that you have to shell out $500 to play GT7? Not to mention, $60 for the game?

Well, you can't get by playing it on your good looks alone so how else are you supposed to play the game?

Something tells me your entire game catalog consists of free to play games, even then you had to buy the hardware to play them right? Jesus, what is the point of this topic?
 

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