Should PD have let the modding slide? ... OP Updated.

[elston87]

I say yes. In fact, all this hype around the hybrid cars makes me want to play GT5 again... would be nice to see how these Franken-cars do

Oddly enough, this is the same case for me~ I caught word of these cars from a friend of mine, so I decided to check it out for myself~

Anything new in GT5 is sure to respark my interest somehow, even if it's as bizarre as this~

 

[arora]

I know it's not ideal but why not set hp/weight along with pp limits? If they still get in, kick and block. If enough of you did that I'm sure it would clean pp racing well enough.

As for TT I don't know, pd needs to be on top of that. Report suspect runs I guess but I don't think flooding pd with complaints helps much, crying wolf and all that.

 

[dbarrade]

Clearly this is just exaggerating the already broken PP system that favours certain (e.g. heavy and maxxed out detuned) cars.

PP should be calculated by getting the AI to do a lap of something like Complex String in the car and then based upon the time it gets, or some other calculation that reflects the actual performance of a vehicle.

I'm not voting as I'm desperate to have my real car in the game as I have an engine, transmission and LSD swap in real life... and no, the engine is not from the same manufacturer. But I don't want to see people cheat... it should be clear that an engine swapped or modified car is modified, perhaps show some statistics relative to the car as it can be bought from the dealership.

 

[seanneedscar]

I know it's not ideal but why not set hp/weight along with pp limits? If they still get in, kick and block. If enough of you did that I'm sure it would clean pp racing well enough.

As for TT I don't know, pd needs to be on top of that. Report suspect runs I guess but I don't think flooding pd with complaints helps much, crying wolf and all that.

HP limits cannot be set in conjunction with PP limits. Its one or the other

Also. The HP limit would only help PP racing. A common practice among drag racing lobbies is 1035 hp limit. Someone could still come in with a 1035 hp GTR and beat all the 868 hp GTR's easily. and there'd be no way to moderate it other than the Host kicking people

and we all know, frequently the host is afk or absolutely braindead

there is no easy fix for this

 

[arora]

HP limits cannot be set in conjunction with PP limits. Its one or the other

Also. The HP limit would only help PP racing.

It's been a while since I've played the game so I can't remember exactly how the restrictions work, and yeah, I was addressing pp racing. So just use power/weight and pick numbers that fit close to a particular pp.

I don't think there is an easy answer, I was giving things to try instead of calling out the world has come to an end.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Try to limit HP in kart room .... huge fail ... a hybrid kart can get below lowest HP limit, but will still be more powerful than any non hybrid kart ..... have the hybrid kart 5 HP/ more than the normal kart ... hard to know if it's a hybrid or not, but will easily win.

 

[arora]

K then, time to put the game on the shelf and complain bloody murder on the message boards for a few months.

 

[CJSpencer77]

Try to limit HP in kart room .... huge fail ... a hybrid kart can get below lowest HP limit, but will still be more powerful than any non hybrid kart ..... have the hybrid kart 5 HP/ more than the normal kart ... hard to know if it's a hybrid or not, but will easily win.

This is the main problem, 20 000 bhp gtr's and 3000 bhp evos are not the problem, if one of these sneaks into your room its very easy to tell that theres a hybrid in the room, kick him then block him, job done.

But like Ridox is saying hybrids that are made to sneak in under the radar are the problem, cars with 20-30 extra bhp that can run away with races without being obvious, they are on the way, its inevitable.

 

[Johnnypenso]

Try to limit HP in kart room .... huge fail ... a hybrid kart can get below lowest HP limit, but will still be more powerful than any non hybrid kart ..... have the hybrid kart 5 HP/ more than the normal kart ... hard to know if it's a hybrid or not, but will easily win.

For Karts can't you just set a PP limit? Do the new hybrids have higher PP with their higher HP?

K then, time to put the game on the shelf and complain bloody murder on the message boards for a few months.

Your sarcasm contributes nothing to the conversation. People are finding flaws and loopholes that affect the integrity of the game. The integrity of the current version of the game is quickly disappearing and some of us are concerned about it. If you have nothing constructive to contribute, it's best to say nothing at all.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

For Karts can't you just set a PP limit? Do the new hybrids have higher PP with their higher HP?

We can use PP limit for karts, a 125 kart has 499PP, set PP limit to 500, should be fine, but hybrid karts can use power limiter + ballast to get into PP limit, not sure about the advantage it can get, but HP limit is useless, the lowest it can get is 98HP, the most kart can have is 29HP. There's that gap where hybrids can sneak into.
Another route is tuning prohibited for karts, but we can still use power limiter ...

Not sure about hybrid kart PP, I saw on other thread, 375HP kart, don't know about it's PP ...

 

[arora]

Your sarcasm contributes nothing to the conversation. People are finding flaws and loopholes that affect the integrity of the game. The integrity of the current version of the game is quickly disappearing and some of us are concerned about it. If you have nothing constructive to contribute, it's best to say nothing at all.

Oh, have I not contributed anything constructive? I guess most just read what they want to.

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

Your sarcasm contributes nothing to the conversation. People are finding flaws and loopholes that affect the integrity of the game. The integrity of the current version of the game is quickly disappearing and some of us are concerned about it. If you have nothing constructive to contribute, it's best to say nothing at all.

No kidding.... 👍 I agree with that.

 

[diptob79]

Heres the Lancer i seen in the 550pp room i run sometimes.
I am using the Silver 458 Italia. At least his driving was erratic enought to see he was using an hybrid.

https://support.us.playstation.com/...~/information-on-banned-accounts-and-consoles


luckily during this year 2013 I only host tuning-prohibited lobbies so didn't get infected with the hype

hopefully some fixes will come though.

 

[posimosh]

So if forza and M$ dish out perma bans for doing this 1 time, surely $ony can do the same.... People can do this off line all they want, but online is a different story.

 

[KWZX10]

Things will get out of control soon, nothing against people having fun with them but we all know how this will end, how people will ruin the fun to everyone.
I'm sure that even who likes them will want PD to block this stuff online.

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

Things will get out of control soon, nothing against people having fun with them but we all know how this will end, how people will ruin the fun to everyone.
I'm sure that even who likes them will want PD to block this stuff online.

I'm afraid of this too... Too many people that find it "fun" going 1200mph in a honda..

 

[D-Max]

They can put down a hp restrictor for anything 3k+ in my opinion. That's when the figure get unrealistic

 

[Da-Bomber]

Why be against more options?

 

[Bluntified]

They can put down a hp restrictor for anything 3k+ in my opinion. That's when the figure get unrealistic

What about the modded X1 that has negative PP? How do you block that?

 

[TwistyDrift]

What about the modded X1 that has negative PP? How do you block that?

PD can patch the seasonal events by removing the PP difference money but it will ruin the game in a way.

 

[Fazerfan]

What about the modded X1 that has negative PP? How do you block that?

Hp block, they restrict cars under 200pp?

 

[D-Max]

Hp block, they restrict cars under 200pp?

Pretty much this. Make a minimum PP as well.

 

[MOTORTRENDmitch]

PP block doesn't work, they go into the Negative PP

 

[elston87]

At this point, car hybrids are getting to the extreme. I thought they were interesting at first, but now they're just getting away with murder in the online scene. Nearly every room I visited today had at least two hybrids present on the track.

Regardless of the restrictions set, there was always a hybrid present, and I'm sick of it. I suggest that PD needs to do something about this issue as soon as possible.

Every new player to the game is probably asking for a hybrid now...

 

[SlipZtrEm]

There's definitely potential ways for PD to stop them from existing. The most straight-forward that I can think of is a more thorough check system being put in place. As a simple example: say someone has swapped a Viper engine into the Ram. The game would check the value for the car's engine when you get in the vehicle, and would compare that value against the stock one. If it's anything other than the normal value, well, PD could program whatever sort of response they want. Maybe the game wouldn't let you enter the car, and would give an error message. Maybe it'd give a different error message and erase the car from the garage.

The check would extend to all parts, such as tires, and the chassis itself, only allowing the parts that are typically available to the car within a normal play-through. It could also extend to settings, to ensure nobody has given themselves too much downforce, different gear ratios, or the like.

As the check would be on the game-side of things, and not anywhere involving the player's save, modifying saves would then accomplish nothing. The check could also be done at any point in the game; heck, if PD wanted to, a message could pop up as soon as you load up the game, informing you it's checking your entire garage for "erroneous cars".

 

[MetroGS]

Have Sony or PD said Anything at all about all of these cars?

I like the realistic tunes! 1000hp Supra's GTR's etc that's awesome they should have let you been able to make them anyway!

But they should set a limit at say 1200hp?

 

[TwistyDrift]

I heard this from a friend so I can't be sure if it's true. My friend told me that PD started IP ban people that have hacked cars and creators (If possible). Can anybody verify this?

 

[lspredator]

I heard this from a friend so I can't be sure if it's true. My friend told me that PD started IP ban people that have hacked cars and creators (If possible). Can anybody verify this?

That's meaby why i get Error sometimes when i try to Join

 

[DiersZee1]

I heard this from a friend so I can't be sure if it's true. My friend told me that PD started IP ban people that have hacked cars and creators (If possible). Can anybody verify this?

If he is a FRIEND, then you should know if he lies, surgar coats or is straight up as he is "A" friend.

So which is he?

 

[photonrider]

That's meaby why i get Error sometimes when i try to Join

Did you hack?