Should U.S. attack Iraq and other countries for the war on terrorism?

[DGB454]

Interesting ... thanks

 

[Frustrated Palm]

Some things are better than watching airial footage of a 2 ton, heat seeking, laser guided, Bunker Buster Bomb blast the crap out of some third world, sand eating terrorist country......no wait. Now that I think of it that bunker buster thing IS better.

If Iraq is lying about them not having any nukes or big bombs we should bomb them. We should also just investigate the others untill we confirm that they are a threat...

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Frustrated Palm

If Iraq is lying about them not having any nukes or big bombs we should bomb them.

How do we know if they're lying...?

 

[Frustrated Palm]

If we find the bombs he says he doesnt, duh...

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
If we find the bombs he says he doesnt, duh...

Why would he say he doesn't have the bombs if we find them?

 

[Frustrated Palm]

OK listen. He says he has no bombs of mass destruction. If he does he is probably hiding them so we dont find them, then if we find nothing he can use them to invade other countries and threaten to use them as well. However if we find them he is in deep ****...

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
OK listen. He says he has no bombs of mass destruction. If he does he is probably hiding them so we dont find them, then if we find nothing he can use them to invade other countries and threaten to use them as well. However if we find them he is in deep ****...

That sounds like revenge. It also sounds like an unlikely scenario.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
OK listen. He says he has no bombs of mass destruction. If he does he is probably hiding them so we dont find them, then if we find nothing he can use them to invade other countries and threaten to use them as well. However if we find them he is in deep ****...

Unlikely. I guarantee there are no banned weapons in Iraq right now. And if I'm wrong and we don't find them, he definitely will not use them against other countries, because if he did, he would be ousted, and he'd rather stay in power than assert military dominance.

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by M5Power
Unlikely. I guarantee there are no banned weapons in Iraq right now. And if I'm wrong and we don't find them, he definitely will not use them against other countries, because if he did, he would be ousted, and he'd rather stay in power than assert military dominance.

He won't be staying in power either way. The only thing worse than a lunatic tyrant is a desperate, cornered lunatic tyrant.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by milefile
He won't be staying in power either way. The only thing worse than a lunatic tyrant is a desperate, cornered lunatic tyrant.

If they don't find weapons and George still wants him out of power, he had better have a damn compelling reason to do so.

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by M5Power
If they don't find weapons and George still wants him out of power, he had better have a damn compelling reason to do so.

I get the impression George is not the only one.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by milefile
I get the impression George is not the only one.

In the end, it all falls on the president's lap - Bay of Pigs is a good example.

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by M5Power
In the end, it all falls on the president's lap - Bay of Pigs is a good example.

And this must be why everything is America's fault.

Slow day at work?

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by milefile
And this must be why everything is America's fault.

In the eyes of everyone else, most likely.

Slow day at work?

Eh. I skipped work today. I'm almost sick, so I thought I'd use that.

Nice avatar.

 

[milefile]

Thanks.

 

[risingson77]

I still think it's odd that we decided to go after Saddam about the same time we couldn't find Osama.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by risingson77
I still think it's odd that we decided to go after Saddam about the same time we couldn't find Osama.

I don't.

I think it's odd that Osama and all of the al~Qaeda drives four-door Toyota pickups.

 

[Frustrated Palm]

There is a high probability he does have them. He lied in 1990' and he is probably lying now. And of course he would use them, barganing ship. Plus he wouldnt be overthrown as has loyal followers as his highest gov't members. He kills them if they betray them. He cant be trusted with those weapons if he has them which he probably does...

 

[Frustrated Palm]

BTW, Suddam is a person who gassed his own people. If you had been watching anything in the past 13 years you should have known that. Why the would someone decide to keep him in power...

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
There is a high probability he does have them. He lied in 1990' and he is probably lying now.

No, see, that doesn't constitute a high probability.

I personally believe that he does have them. But if President Bush cannot prove that he's got them, I do not support a war, and most of all I no longer support President Bush.

 

[milefile]

One interesting characteristic all of the various forces weighing in on this conflict share is that they are all very religious and use it as a crutch to justify their aggression.

 

[Frustrated Palm]

You didnt vote Beucanon did you? j/k

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by M5Power
I no longer support President Bush.

Thankfully, this is a growing sentiment. Only two more years.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
BTW, Suddam is a person who gassed his own people. If you had been watching anything in the past 13 years you should have known that. Why the would someone decide to keep him in power...

Do you know the circumstances in which he gassed his own people? You'd have to be reading between the lines in the past thirteen years to get that detail, which the Bush administration casually skips almost on a daily basis. And, I agree that he shouldn't be kept in power. But why does the United States have the authority to take someone else's president out of power just because we don't like what he's done in the past?

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by milefile
Thankfully, this is a growing sentiment. Only two more years.

Two more years?! We can un-elect him next November if we try hard enough!

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by M5Power
But why does the United States have the authority to take someone else's president out of power just because we don't like what he's done in the past?

Moral arrogance. And because we are capable.

 

[Frustrated Palm]

Originally posted by M5Power
But why does the United States have the authority to take someone else's president out of power just because we don't like what he's done in the past?

If there is a threat to the safety and freedom of our country. He is a threat, just not as elevated yet. I do agree not to go jumping and leaping into wars with crazy A.D.D. hyponocratic people, just the bigger threat ones...

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by M5Power
But why does the United States have the authority to take someone else's president out of power just because we don't like what he's done in the past?

Also...

Three words: Sole Super Power.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
If there is a threat to the safety and freedom of our country. He is a threat, just not as elevated yet. I do agree not to go jumping and leaping into wars with crazy A.D.D. hyponocratic people, just the bigger threat ones...

How is he a threat at all to our country? Has he ever demonstrated aggression towards this country directly?

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by M5Power
How is he a threat at all to our country? Has he ever demonstrated aggression towards this country directly?

He doesn't have to. The U.S. is so enmeshed with the the middle east and especially Israel that almost anything that goes on there is "too close for comfort."

It would be nice if we could just pull out of everywhere and let these ****ty little tyrants kill themselves. But I don't think we'd like that either.

I can see the masses marching on the White House now... "save them from the evil tyrant! How can we let this happen!"