So 1.06 didn`t bring option to save game in mid-championship or endurance?
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Considering GT5 can save an entire race via a complex replay system that keeps track of every car on the track, I'm pretty sure they can save a race at any point if they wanted to. The harder thing to implement would be unfreezing the pause at a later time. It would require a save-steady state of some sort that wouldn't get lost if the PS3 was turned off. Saving during championships on the other hand could easily be done though, so there's not any excuse to leave that out.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
When you pause the game the positions and speeds of the AI are saved until you restart, so surely it should be easy to save that to the hard drive so you can switch your PS3 off and go back later.
I'm pretty much the same as others here ( wife, child, long work hours etc) and for the amount of time I get to play on GT5 I would probably have to leave my PS3 on for a month to get through the 24 hr races.
When you pause the game the positions and speeds of the AI are saved until you restart, so surely it should be easy to save that to the hard drive so you can switch your PS3 off and go back later.
I'm pretty much the same as others here ( wife, child, long work hours etc) and for the amount of time I get to play on GT5 I would probably have to leave my PS3 on for a month to get through the 24 hr races.
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I can understand the need for saving between champ races, but saving in the middle of an endurance race is just plain stupid, it not and an endurance race if you can save it half way through, the whole point is that you get tired and start making mistakes, a better idea would be if you could bring in one of your b spec drivers to do a few laps for a couple of hours while you go get your head down, something to eat etc. if you dont want to do the whole endurance race in one dont start the endurance race.
For some of us running an entire endurance race without the ability to save is not a possibility, period.
After work, paying attention to the family and all the other things in my life it would take me at least three straight weeks of my PS3 being on.
Not to mention that if I don't completely unplug my PS3 every night, either my three year old or one year old will pop the disk out, it's happened many times before. That means not only is the race done, but the disk might be too. I could remedy that by putting the playstation up out of their reach, but that would require purchasing a new entertainment center. I'm not willing to drop that kind of money just to do an endurance race on a video game.
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FWIW, there is the school of thought that the worst thing you can do is turn your PS3 on and off. That is when it heats up and or cools down, which is when things expand and contract, and suffer the most stress.
There are people who have had their PS3s running for months on end. Years even. Folding@home anyone?
Using your PS3 will break your PS3... eventually. It's just a machine.
There are people who have had their PS3s running for months on end. Years even. Folding@home anyone?
Using your PS3 will break your PS3... eventually. It's just a machine.
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People said that about computers too. There's arguments to be made on both sides of that issue. In this day and age when ALL of us should be concerned about conserving energy, I think it's pretty ridiculous to leave a PS3 or computer running continuously.
I own a computer business and I always tell my commercial clients to SHUT DOWN at the end of the day. It's a huge waste of electricity to keep it running constantly! The electric company gets enough money from me every month, I'm not paying them more just to do an endurance race on my PS3 because the developers are too lazy to implement a save feature. If PD literally expects people to sit through a 24 hour race in one sitting for the sake of a video game, then they have rocks in their heads! Maybe a kid still living with his parents with no other responsibilities could carve out the time on a weekend but MOST normal adults have lives to live. If PD expects me to leave my PS3 on pause while tending to real life, then they can pay my electric bill and pay for a new PS3 when it burns up.
edit: Oh, and just for the record... in the 26 years I've been in the computer business, I've seen far more problems with computers that are constantly left on than from computers that were shut down when they were not in use.
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Well I have to comment on the "purists" out there that keep saying you should not be able to save the game during a endurance event. This has been said but needs to be said again!! In real life NO i repeat NO driver runs ALL 24 hours, so why would us doing it be realistic?? In addition the whole endurance race concept is a teat of man and machine, our cars dont break parts so it is only a test of man here (and I say again NO driver runs ALL 24 hours so why would we?? We are not professional race car drivers we are gaming enthusiasts and I am sure most of us want to run ALL 24 hours we just can't put that time in to do it straight (only the kids out there with no job or responsibility can do this). I have done the shorter events but just cant and wont leave my machine on for a week doing anything longer, I pay my power bill and I am not going to waste the money to run my PS while I am at work!! so this should be the #1 thing to address.
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So who will you blame when it does burn up, having not done the enduros?
Is it laziness, or is it their decision to have left the enduros the way they are, to maintain the difficulty factor and exclusivity of completing them?
Coming from a place with predominantly hydro-electric power, I'm not all that worried about my gaming's impact on the environment, or the less than $1 worth of electricity it will cost me to leave my PS3 on for a month straight.
It's a hell of a challenge, and getting to level 40 will take me 7 more 24s at Le Mans. That's the gauntlet they've laid out before me. For what it's worth, the only thing you're pursuing by doing the 24s is seeking completion and accomplishment, since there aren't any great prizes or Easter eggs to be had from completing the 24 of the Nürburgring. So... don't like it? Don't do it. It's that simple.
If you want to do series of short races that add up to 24 hrs, but spread them out over a few days, as to not 'hurt' your PS3 or your electrical bill, then there are ways to do that already, without spoiling the challenge for other people who might be interested in going after such a crazy thing.
Is it laziness, or is it their decision to have left the enduros the way they are, to maintain the difficulty factor and exclusivity of completing them?
Coming from a place with predominantly hydro-electric power, I'm not all that worried about my gaming's impact on the environment, or the less than $1 worth of electricity it will cost me to leave my PS3 on for a month straight.
It's a hell of a challenge, and getting to level 40 will take me 7 more 24s at Le Mans. That's the gauntlet they've laid out before me. For what it's worth, the only thing you're pursuing by doing the 24s is seeking completion and accomplishment, since there aren't any great prizes or Easter eggs to be had from completing the 24 of the Nürburgring. So... don't like it? Don't do it. It's that simple.
If you want to do series of short races that add up to 24 hrs, but spread them out over a few days, as to not 'hurt' your PS3 or your electrical bill, then there are ways to do that already, without spoiling the challenge for other people who might be interested in going after such a crazy thing.
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People are forgetting one very important thing, if there was the Save in endurance, who wanted to do then 24 hours straight could still do it ,and some of us who don't have the time(including myself here), for what ever reason, could do it also, besides most of the guys that say that is stupid to have save on Enduros don't do them straight up they pause, leave the PS3 on and rest, then go back into to it, so whats the difference between this and have the save, the only difference is if the PS3 is on or off, nothing else.
Another thing is that in an endurance race the drivers have a limit of time to be driving, and have a team, we don't.
Another thing is that in an endurance race the drivers have a limit of time to be driving, and have a team, we don't.
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Saving inbetween championship races I can undersatnd, in fact I expected it and I think most of us did.
But... saving mid endurnace race? I've never seen a game that can do that. Anyone?
(don't get me wrong, I would LOVE it!)
But... saving mid endurnace race? I've never seen a game that can do that. Anyone?
(don't get me wrong, I would LOVE it!)
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I understand what you are saying, particularly in regard to the sense of completion and accomplishment. However, what's the difference between pausing the endurance race while leaving the PS3 running so that you can deal with real life (sleep, bathroom, job, family) and having a save spot that enables you to save your progress, shut down the PS3, deal with real life, turn on the PS3 again and have the game resume exactly where you left off? Both ways you are still stopping the race to deal with real life and resuming when you have the time. If folks don't want to use the save feature, they wouldn't have to use it. If they want to complete the 24 hour race in one sitting, they still could. But for those of us that prefer turning off their PS3's (as opposed to just pausing) it would give us the option to venture into the more lengthy endurance races. Why not?
If you're argument against the save is that it would somehow negate the sense of accomplishment and completion that you feel because others are able to complete the game differently than you, then you should feel that way now because others are just pausing the game to deal with life and then continuing on anyway... So that argument is a moot point right now. It is being done, just not with a formal save spot. Besides, you will know how you completed the endurance races, and if you did them in one sitting then you should still feel that same sense of hard core accomplishment whether or not others are completing the game differently than you. Trust me, you'd still feel that sense of pride because you'd know you did it your way.
I won't be doing the endurance races unless the save is implemented and therefore will not complete every race in the game. I paid $60.00 for a game that I will never be able to complete because I have other things in life that need my attention as well. I can't carve out 24 hours to just sit there and play a video game. That's my choice though. There's always the seasonal events to complete and other races to run again. Good luck with your endurance races!
Not sure what you mean by blame... but I still think it's a bad idea to leave a PS3 on constantly. Since I won't be doing that, I don't expect it will burn up prematurely. Hopefully it will last at least until the PS4 is released!
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Why, oh why...
It`s #1 in feedback section, so much for PD checking gtplanet.net...
Just because it's #1 they aren't obliged to give it to you. If they feel the endurances should hold some value and not be able to be saved then that's their choice and your problem not their's, no one is forcing you to do the endurances if you can't handle them as is.
Btw, option for a B-Spec driver to drive is needed for 24hour though, for those who can't get a mate over to share the driving. I'm gonna do it with a mate but some can't, they have lives.
I haven't tried this yet, maybe someone else did, but in the update list it says about when starting an a spec or endurance race it will prompt you whether you want to start from the beginning? Anyone try leaving an endurance race go run some other race and come back to it to see if it continues from where you left? Is this what this means with the update or am I reading this wrong?
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Just because it's #1 they aren't obliged to give it to you. If they feel the endurances should hold some value and not be able to be saved then that's their choice and your problem not their's, no one is forcing you to do the endurances if you can't handle them as is.
Btw, option for a B-Spec driver to drive is needed for 24hour though, for those who can't get a mate over to share the driving. I'm gonna do it with a mate but some can't, they have lives.
Apparently according to your view of "value", they already don't hold any value because people can run the race for 1 hour, pause their PS3 for 2 days if they want to, then run for another hour, etc... until they finish. It's exactly the same as having a save spot would be in the game, except people are constantly running their PS3's for days on end now to finish them. The only difference is that instead of leaving your PS3 running constantly, you'd be able to turn it off. How is that a bad thing?
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I understand what you are saying, particularly in regard to the sense of completion and accomplishment. However, what's the difference between pausing the endurance race while leaving the PS3 running so that you can deal with real life (sleep, bathroom, job, family) and having a save spot that enables you to save your progress, shut down the PS3, deal with real life, turn on the PS3 again and have the game resume exactly where you left off? Both ways you are still stopping the race to deal with real life and resuming when you have the time. If folks don't want to use the save feature, they wouldn't have to use it. If they want to complete the 24 hour race in one sitting, they still could. But for those of us that prefer turning off their PS3's (as opposed to just pausing) it would give us the option to venture into the more lengthy endurance races. Why not?
If you're argument against the save is that it would somehow negate the sense of accomplishment and completion that you feel because others are able to complete the game differently than you, then you should feel that way now because others are just pausing the game to deal with life and then continuing on anyway... So that argument is a moot point right now. It is being done, just not with a formal save spot. Besides, you will know how you completed the endurance races, and if you did them in one sitting then you should still feel that same sense of hard core accomplishment whether or not others are completing the game differently than you. Trust me, you'd still feel that sense of pride because you'd know you did it your way.
I won't be doing the endurance races unless the save is implemented and therefore will not complete every race in the game. I paid $60.00 for a game that I will never be able to complete because I have other things in life that need my attention as well. I can't carve out 24 hours to just sit there and play a video game. That's my choice though. There's always the seasonal events to complete and other races to run again. Good luck with your endurance races!
Well said, all people against being able to save during endurance: get over the butthurt.
Having to do a 24hour race on pause takes a lot more endurance than , race 20mins > save go play cod for couple days, >play 1 hour of your endurance > go play cod for 1 day> play 20min of the endurance.... u get the point?
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THE 24 HOUR ENDURANCE, it's the last 2 race's of the game. It does not "fry" your ps3, i leave my 40gb fatboy ps3 on for days on end for 2 and half years and no worry's. Dropping, tipping over, letting kids play with, letting dust accumulate - that will break the solder or fry your PS3. Not leaving it on for 24 hours - i can assure you.
They obviously hold some value because the stop people like yourself being able to 100% the game with ease, there will always be that one final obstacle in your way.
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Pardon my ignorance but what the heck is cod? From the context of your post I assume you are referring to being able to play another video game after saving. But what prevents someone who pauses the game from booting up their XBox 360 and playing whatever the heck they want there? What's to stop somebody that pauses their game from going to the movies, going to bed, spending time with the family, eating, etc...? I don't follow your logic at all. It takes no more endurance from the game player to stop the race for a while through a game pause than it would to stop the race for a while through a game save.
It doesn't stop me from completing with ease, it stops me because I choose not to run my PS3 for days on end like most of the other folks completing the endurance races. It's still just as easy for the folks that are willing to pause their race and let their PS3 run. So I think the value you place upon it is truly misplaced.
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Sick one PD just leave out one of the most if not the most requested feature to be added into the game.
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My PS3 is a fat 80 GB. It's a tank, been going strong for a few years now, but it is still in danger of going kaput. There is something known as the yellow light of death, and it's happened to my friend. Yes, we're all in danger.
And I'd like to save in between races during championships. GT3 and GT4 had this, so why not GT5? Is it really that hard?
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This is it in a nutshell. How many of us here have done the 24hr race without even PAUSING the game? If you want a leg to stand on in this argument, you have to be able to put your hand over your heart and say that.
Damn few (if any) could say that, IMO. And all of them that can have been using the X1, which again is not racing in the slightest.
If you don't support saving, you MUST NOT use the pause button... 💡
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