So 1.06 didn`t bring option to save game in mid-championship or endurance?

[HKS racer]

It has nothing to do with either because the vast majority of the people supposedly finishing the endurance races are using the pause feature to "save" their game progress until they can resume. As for skill . Try driving a real car (in REAL life) at speed. That requires real skill. GT5 is just a video game. But if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside to feel superior to those of us that refuse to leave our PS3 running for days to complete a video game, then more power to you my friend.

Haha quote 👍 the purist way to run an endurance is create a team of 3 or 4 drivers and swich them every 2 / 3 hours, no one will run and win a 24h endurance in real life by his own. If they don't want give us a stupid in game save they could combine bspec mode with aspec driving... come on, keep your ps3 ON for days ain't "purist" is just insane.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I just wish they kept B-spec the way it was in GT4. If you wanted to keep the 24 hour races as real as possible, you could just switch with Bob every few hours or so. If you didn't have time to do that, you could just put Bob in an overpowered car, speed up B-spec, and the race would be done in just 8 hours.

If they just did this with GT5, I think both sides would have been happy for the most part.

 

[ElSecundo]

I just wish they kept B-spec the way it was in GT4. If you wanted to keep the 24 hour races as real as possible, you could just switch with Bob every few hours or so. If you didn't have time to do that, you could just put Bob in an overpowered car, speed up B-spec, and the race would be done in just 8 hours.

If they just did this with GT5, I think both sides would have been happy for the most part.

I agree, the way they did it in GT4 was very sensible. Even if they didn't do the 3x speed-up, being able to switch off with B-spec drivers is a realistic (and reasonable) way to do it.

Who knows, maybe we'll see something like that in a future update...

 

[Audio-of-Being]

I definitely think this game needs a pit-save option on the Endurance series. I like to watch movies and let my fiancee play the PS3. Plus, I work for the railway and am gone for 24-36 hours at a time and I don't want to leave my PS3 on that whole time considering the power bill isn't cheap to begin with.

 

[robbo6]

No it doesn't. If you don't have the time/skill to do A RACE, then then you don't deserve to race/finish it.

Who the HELL are you to decide what I deserve or not with my entertainment that I have PAID for and free time? My GOD you really are a low life weasel for saying that. I have the skill, I just don't have the time as I have a busy life outside of a VIDEO GAME. Many people do, and are NOT lesser people than arrogant to**ers like you. Don't like saves, don't use it and brag about it to the vast majority of people who couldn't give a RATS AR*E.

The more you argue against it the more people will think you are even more of a prat than you already are.

Also, if skill is so important for you then grow a pair and do an Endurance for REAL not sat in your comfy chair with the ability to survive high speed crashes and pause the game whenever you want.....oooh how realistic yous DA MAN with yor sklz <--sarcasm

 

[conath]

"It`s a simulator, not video game"

W.T.F.

So why my brakes never overheat? Why I can not change tyre pressure? Why the tyres heat and cool down in 0.5 sec? Why there`s only 16 cars on Le Mans?
Why can I set ABS 10 and TC 10 in WW2 amphibian?
Why can I set unrealistic skid recovery force on any car during any event?

IT IS A VIDEO GAME.

Save option is a must. I`ve never seens anybody complain that there`s save option in rFactor at any time during race.

 

[Dennisch]

No it doesn't. If you don't have the time/skill to do A RACE, then then you don't deserve to race/finish it.

OMFG, this is by FAR the dumbest comment I've seen on GTP.

I know you paused your game. If it's just been 1 time, Still you "cheated", and all of your comments are useless.

This one is for you.

You may click here.

 

[HKS racer]

Save option is a must. I`ve never seens anybody complain that there`s save option in rFactor at any time during race.

Because they are not crazy like our Poliphony Digital hippy friends. And don't tell me "so you could be playing rFactor" it's just a stupid save, they have to add it, it's not like asking tons of new premium cars and tracks, come on.

 

[DaveS1138]

come on, keep your ps3 ON for days ain't "purist" is just insane.

why is it insane to keep you PS3 on for days? Mine has been on for over 3 years now. (running Folding@home if I'm not gaming/watching Blu-rays).

How is that insane?

 

[Dennisch]

why is it insane to keep you PS3 on for days? Mine has been on for over 3 years now. (running Folding@home if I'm not gaming/watching Blu-rays).

How is that insane?

You need to put it in context, it's more like this :

Keeping your ps3 on for days, while pausing a race for 8 hours so you can get some sleep, in stead of saving midrace, and turning the console off.

 

[DaveS1138]

Who the HELL are you to decide what I deserve or not with my entertainment that I have PAID for and free time? My GOD you really are a low life weasel for saying that. I have the skill, I just don't have the time as I have a busy life outside of a VIDEO GAME. Many people do, and are NOT lesser people than arrogant to**ers like you. Don't like saves, don't use it and brag about it to the vast majority of people who couldn't give a RATS AR*E.

The more you argue against it the more people will think you are even more of a prat than you already are.

Also, if skill is so important for you then grow a pair and do an Endurance for REAL not sat in your comfy chair with the ability to survive high speed crashes and pause the game whenever you want.....oooh how realistic yous DA MAN with yor sklz <--sarcasm

I dont have the time to run a marathon. It would take me too long to run the 26 miles 386 yards. I would not be able to finish the race before the race ended.

However. I can cerainly cover 26miles 386 yards if I break it up into small chunks. I have done it hundreds of times in my life.

Do people think I have run multiple marathons? Of course they dont. Because if you said that anybody that had ever covered 26 miles and 386 yards in their life no matter how long it took them becasue they broke it up into small chunks and covered for example 1/4 mile a day (in effect "saving" my progress throughout the 26 miles 386 yards) it would be just stupid.

To say that somebody had run a marathon over the course of 100 days at 1/4 mile a day would completely devalue the meaning of anybody that really did run a marathon.

Just because you PAID PD for GT5 doesn't give you the right to finish everything in the game if you are not prepared to put the time in required to finish them. Lots of people have lots of games that they have not finished 100% because they didn't have the time to play them. Instead of PD adding a save feature to races why not just have them put a nice red easy button on the start menu and if you press it you have finished the game 100%. Then everybody that PAID for the game can finish it. I mean seriously wow! people here seem to think they have some kind of right to finish every game they have just because they PAID for it no matter what they do.

PD are not the ones stopping you from running the endurance races and finishing 100% of the game. You are stopping yourself from running it because you dont have the time to run them. It's perfectly understandable that not everybody will have the time to run them. But to ask PD to re-write the game just because you cant spare a few days of your PS3 gaming time to complete the race........I mean talk about egotistical....

You need to put it in context, it's more like this :

Keeping your ps3 on for days, while pausing a race for 8 hours so you can get some sleep, in stead of saving midrace, and turning the console off.

Hmmm...... Having to leave your PS3 on until you finish the race....... that would make it something of a..... oh what's the word.... Endurance, huh.

 

[Dennisch]

Hmmm...... Having to leave your PS3 on until you finish the race....... that would make it something of a..... oh what's the word.... Endurance, huh.

It makes it an endurance for your ps3, not for you, or me.
Would you like to join the other fanboy idiots? Keeping your ps3 paused for 8 hours or so is just retarded, it makes no sense what so ever, the possibility of frying your ps3 goes up, with a black out you could corrupt your game, your e-bill goes up, for nothing.

Just making it possible to save is the best way to go. In every aspect.

 

[DaveS1138]

It makes it an endurance for your ps3, not for you, or me.
Would you like to join the other fanboy idiots? Keeping your ps3 paused for 8 hours or so is just retarded, it makes no sense what so ever, the possibility of frying your ps3 goes up, with a black out you could corrupt your game, your e-bill goes up, for nothing.

Just making it possible to save is the best way to go. In every aspect.

are you really calling me an idiot and a retard because I have a different opinion from you on how endurance races should be run.

I'm fairly sure that breaks forum rules.

I'm very happy to debate the issue with you and explain my position and listen to yours. But not if it's just going to involve silly name calling.

 

[Dennisch]

are you really calling me an idiot and a retard because I have a different opinion from you on how endurance races should be run.

I'm fairly sure that breaks forum rules.

Nope, I ask if you would like to join them.

There is nothing that could justify the way things are going right now.
As mentioned before, it's a matter of time before the first Gt5 related death will pop up in the news. Simply because some fanboy tried to race 24 hours straight, without pausing. And then what will you say? That it's still ok? And it's still the way to go? 👎

And again, keeping your ps3 paused for 8 hours, that's stupid and retarded. nothing more, nothing less.

The entire world is screaming for a greener way of life, and PD desides you need to keep your ps3 on, or game on for 24h straight.

Sounds really dumb doesn't it?

 

[SeaNorris]

@DaveS1138 - Here's a post from someone who isn't going to call you names or anything.

I would like a save feature for endurance races as I cannot justify staying up for 24hours to play a game when in real life a driver does not drive Le Mans for 24 hours straight. Not just that I also share the bedroom so it is impossible for me to be able to leave the PS3 on for 24hours at any time and I wouldn't want to leave it on for 24hours+ while I slept because it's a complete waste of time. Weather you do the 24 hour race in one sitting or five sittings, it doesn't make one better than the other. I didn't do any of the less endurance races without pausing (but I can justify this as they were all done in the one day, and I haven't done one longer than 4hrs). I would like to have a go at the 24hour endurance races but with the reasons above and simply not being able to dedicated 24hrs of time factoring in college etc (professional drivers of course can do this, it's their job but again they do not drive for 24hrs at a time). No matter how many cries of "its a simulator" if that was the case you'd be able to have more than one driver (not all of us have friends who wish to sit racing around a track for hours on end either) so why not allow B-Spec driver to enter alongside you. This would at least allow it to be done in one sitting with more than one driver.

 

[DaveS1138]

@DaveS1138 - Here's a post from someone who isn't going to call you names or anything.

I would like a save feature for endurance races as I cannot justify staying up for 24hours to play a game when in real life a driver does not drive Le Mans for 24 hours straight. Not just that I also share the bedroom so it is impossible for me to be able to leave the PS3 on for 24hours at any time and I wouldn't want to leave it on for 24hours+ while I slept because it's a complete waste of time. Weather you do the 24 hour race in one sitting or five sittings, it doesn't make one better than the other. I didn't do any of the less endurance races without pausing (but I can justify this as they were all done in the one day, and I haven't done one longer than 4hrs). I would like to have a go at the 24hour endurance races but with the reasons above and simply not being able to dedicated 24hrs of time factoring in college etc (professional drivers of course can do this, it's their job but again they do not drive for 24hrs at a time). No matter how many cries of "its a simulator" if that was the case you'd be able to have more than one driver (not all of us have friends who wish to sit racing around a track for hours on end either) so why not allow B-Spec driver to enter alongside you. This would at least allow it to be done in one sitting with more than one driver.

Thank you. It's certainly nice to see somebody put forward a very reasoned argument without the need for name calling.

I certainly agree that the time required for running the 24 hour races is a very big limitation to lots of people. The difference is just that I think that fact makes the completion of them a special achievment and I would like to see that achievment maintained. I think adding a save feature would spoil that.

Just my opinion and it does appear to be the minority opinion on this issue.

As with my example of running a marathon above. The achievment means something because of how few people will ever finish one.

You dont have to run flat out from start to finish. You have the option to stop and take a rest (pausing) so that even people not in peak physical condition can finish the race.

However you cant run for 1/4 mile and then take the bus home (saving) and then come back tomorrow to run the next 1/4 mile before taking the bus home again (saving) to do the next 1/4 mile again. Otherwise running a marathon becomes a pointless achievment.

In that respect I think that pausing is still in the spirit of the endurace race whilst saving is not.

Again it's just my opinion and I do understand that most people will not have time to dedicate to this race. But then that is why there are several endurance races of different length so people who dont have time to run a full 24 hours can still expereince the endurance races.

You have everything from 1 1/2 hour races up to 9 hour races without having to race for 24 hours.

So you can still experience the endurance races. You just cant finish the game 100%. Just as I cant finish a marathon if I cant run 26 miles before the race ends but I can run 1/2 marathons or 1/4 marathons.

 

[jmb27]

This is just like the NASCAR issue. I don't racing NASCAR cars on oval tracks. Does that mean that it shouldn't be in the game? No. Does it mean I should bitch and moan about it? No. It means I shouldn't use it.

I don't know why the "purists" all say there should be absolutely no way it should ever be incorporated into the game. No one will force you to use it. How does me deciding to use the save feature affect you?

Also, some of you might want to think about your choice of words. Saying that I have no right and I don't deserve something is not something for a random person on the internet to decide. There is a difference between the right and an ability to do something.

 

[speedracer_-44]

I have just hit level 35 and have scheduled a party in 2 weeks with 3 of my friends to do the 1st 24 hr race. No pausing allowed, we switch driver every other stop. Should be a blast, lots of beer, red bull, good food, and wagering. This is my preferred way to play these events.

If you can pause it you should be able to save it. If PD wanted it to be an endurance they shouldn't allow the pausing either. It's either an endurance with no pausing or saving or it's a not. With no save feature and with the rubber band grinding many have to do who don't have time, PD is gong to have the blood of many PS3s on there hands.

 

[SeaNorris]

I don't think pausing is in the spirit of an endurance race, since you can pause for any amount of time. I would have the save set in such a way that you cannot enter another race while the endurance race is saved, you HAVE to complete the endurance race before you can do any other race, buy cars etc etc. I can pause the game for 8 hours and then carry on the "24 hour endurance race", a team could stop for 8 hours in the race yes, but they're going to lose a lot of places and fall to the back or right down. You can pause in game for 8 hours and be in 1st still when you return, that is no different from saving, turning console off and then coming back on the next day and reloading the endurance race.

Your marathon point is similar but still goes back, if you "pause" yourself in the marathon, then you lose your places, something that does not happen if you pause the game and go away for sleep etc, you are still in the position you left it.

I don't see why a save feature where you cannot do anything else than carry on the endurance race when you return would be a bad thing, it is no different from pausing other than the fact you can turn the PS3 off (which is essential for some people, like me with room sharing etc I previously mentioned).

 

[DaveS1138]

I don't think pausing is in the spirit of an endurance race, since you can pause for any amount of time. I would have the save set in such a way that you cannot enter another race while the endurance race is saved, you HAVE to complete the endurance race before you can do any other race, buy cars etc etc. I can pause the game for 8 hours and then carry on the "24 hour endurance race", a team could stop for 8 hours in the race yes, but they're going to lose a lot of places and fall to the back or right down. You can pause in game for 8 hours and be in 1st still when you return, that is no different from saving, turning console off and then coming back on the next day and reloading the endurance race.

Your marathon point is similar but still goes back, if you "pause" yourself in the marathon, then you lose your places, something that does not happen if you pause the game and go away for sleep etc, you are still in the position you left it.

I don't see why a save feature where you cannot do anything else than carry on the endurance race when you return would be a bad thing, it is no different from pausing other than the fact you can turn the PS3 off (which is essential for some people, like me with room sharing etc I previously mentioned).

Again a very fair point.

and your idea for how to control the saves certainly solves some of the issues. However, I would add one more criteria for the saved games. Once you reload the saved game and restart the race that save should be deleted automatically to stop people being able to go back to that save if they power off the system after making a mistake.

That does force the save game to be just an extended pause. More like the resume function on the PSP than a true saved game.

 

[speedracer_-44]

In that respect I think that pausing is still in the spirit of the endurance race whilst saving is not.

This I just can't see. Using a pause instead of a save doesn't make you finish the race any faster than someone that saves. In fact if you only allowed saves during pit stops then the saver might complete it faster because the guy pausing can run 1/4 mile then go get on the bus as you suggest. There just isn't an argument here as to why 1 is ok and the other isn't. Saving at least saves wear and tear on your PS3, help with the electric bill, prevent loss if power fails.

Maybe the solution to satisfy all(most) would be to allow saves during a pit stops but then force you to resume the race when the game is turned back on and not allow you to access other in game content until the race is completed.

 

[DaveS1138]

This I just can't see. Using a pause instead of a save doesn't make you finish the race any faster than someone that saves. In fact if you only allowed saves during pit stops then the saver might complete it faster because the guy pausing can run 1/4 mile then go get on the bus as you suggest. There just isn't an argument here as to why 1 is ok and the other isn't. Saving at least saves wear and tear on your PS3, help with the electric bill, prevent loss if power fails.

Maybe the solution to satisfy all(most) would be to allow saves during a pit stops but then force you to resume the race when the game is turned back on and not allow you to access other in game content until the race is completed.

In the context of the marathon when you stop for a rest (pause) you are still a part of the race. Yes the analogy fails in that the race is still running with you stationary. It's not a perefect analogy just the best I have

when you get the bus and go home (save) you are no longer part of the race. In effect you could go run another race then come back tomorrow and start running your first race again. (play another game or watch a movie in the context of the PS3).

So I think there are some valid reasons why one is different from the other.

the biggest issue with saved games is it allows you to go back to a previous saved point if you make a mistake. That is very different from a pause.

 

[ruf-ctr2]

In the context of the marathon when you stop for a rest (pause) you are still a part of the race. Yes the analogy fails in that the race is still running with you stationary. It's not a perefect analogy just the best I have

when you get the bus and go home (save) you are no longer part of the race. In effect you could go run another race then come back tomorrow and start running your first race again. (play another game or watch a movie in the context of the PS3).

So I think there are some valid reasons why one is different from the other.

the biggest issue with saved games is it allows you to go back to a previous saved point if you make a mistake. That is very different from a pause.

And making a pause is soooo realistic - that happens in real live all the time - for excample Sebastian Vettel in a Formula1 rave presses the "pause" button and the world around him just freezes - until he presses the button again.....


Not having the ability to save during stupidly long races in a COMPUTER GAME is a missing future - nothing more.

 

[jimftr]

Why, oh why...
It`s #1 in feedback section, so much for PD checking gtplanet.net...

Another ****ing pointless thread, Idiot. I'm sick of these constant whiners and moaners. Maybe they can't implement it, Maybe they can, but they didn't. Oki Doki?

 

[SeaNorris]

the biggest issue with saved games is it allows you to go back to a previous saved point if you make a mistake. That is very different from a pause.

Well there is a way around that, you are only allowed one save slot per endurance race, thus meaning you can only overwrite the existing one and not go back to the old one. The argument may be that you can exit and reload, however the system I would have would not allow you to exit the race without saving, if you exited you lose your save, simple as that. No different from pausing then except you can turn the console off (which is a factor for many as I said).

Also when you pause (to sleep, eat etc) that is no different from saving, you're no longer part of the race, you stopped the race because you wanted/needed to be away from the console. Works both ways.

 

[DaveS1138]

Well there is a way around that, you are only allowed one save slot per endurance race, thus meaning you can only overwrite the existing one and not go back to the old one. The argument may be that you can exit and reload, however the system I would have would not allow you to exit the race without saving, if you exited you lose your save, simple as that. No different from pausing then except you can turn the console off (which is a factor for many as I said).

Also when you pause (to sleep, eat etc) that is no different from saving, you're no longer part of the race, you stopped the race because you wanted/needed to be away from the console. Works both ways.

It depends how it responds to the console being powered off. The problem with a saved game that when you start up the game takes you directly to the continuation of the race is that if you do something really bad you can just power off your console and then when you start up the game again it takes you back to that previous save and you get a do over.

Hence if the act of loading up the save also deletes that save you get to restart the race but wthout the ability to just power off the console if you do something wrong.

 

[SeaNorris]

I still don't see why it's an issue. If someone makes a mistake and then reloads an old save, then so be it? Most people who play games to 100% would probably say that at some point they reloaded. For example playing games like GTA, MGS etc going for 100% in these I aim for (in the case of GTA) 0 busted/wasted stats, when it happens, I reload. I don't see the issue in it, it harms nobody elses game. Just like when it comes down to it, if they implemented a save feature for endurance races you don't have to use it, I would use it because I do not want to leave my PS3 on for longer than 24hrs (and I can't anyway) would that hurt anyone elses game on here? No it wouldn't. If people then wanted to do it in one sitting then they can and come on here and boast about it or whatever, I don't really care how someone plays their game. They paid their money for it, if they want to duplicate cars, birthday glitch cars, save endurance races, send B-Spec Bob on the Dream Car Championship in the X2010 then let them! It affects nobody elses game. I thought GT4 had an endurance race save feature or the ability to use B-Spec drivers too? Why doesn't GT5? Seems a step backwards and unrealistic, one driver does not race for 24hrs.

 

[Bounkazz]

Are you guys still moaning about the no-save-function-during-races?

Lol.

Get over it.

 

[DaveS1138]

I still don't see why it's an issue. If someone makes a mistake and then reloads an old save, then so be it? Most people who play games to 100% would probably say that at some point they reloaded. For example playing games like GTA, MGS etc going for 100% in these I aim for (in the case of GTA) 0 busted/wasted stats, when it happens, I reload. I don't see the issue in it, it harms nobody elses game. Just like when it comes down to it, if they implemented a save feature for endurance races you don't have to use it, I would use it because I do not want to leave my PS3 on for longer than 24hrs (and I can't anyway) would that hurt anyone elses game on here? No it wouldn't. If people then wanted to do it in one sitting then they can and come on here and boast about it or whatever, I don't really care how someone plays their game. They paid their money for it, if they want to duplicate cars, birthday glitch cars, save endurance races, send B-Spec Bob on the Dream Car Championship in the X2010 then let them! It affects nobody elses game. I thought GT4 had an endurance race save feature or the ability to use B-Spec drivers too? Why doesn't GT5? Seems a step backwards and unrealistic, one driver does not race for 24hrs.

That was the whole point of the marathon analogy.

You can say that I have finished multiple marathons in my life if you add up all the times I have travelled 26 miles even if it was only 1/4 mile a day.

However to do that destroys the achievment of people that did those 26 miles in one race.

So yes it does effect other peoples games even if they dont use the feature themselves. It devalues the achevement of completeing the 24 hour endurance race.

Sure you can say that anybody that ever ran a marathon the "correct" way should feel good just in their own achievment. But the fact is we dont allow people to spend 100 days doing a marathon 1/4 mile a day because that would devalue the race.

 

[SeaNorris]

How does it devalue it? It's just a game and at the end of the day if you paused it then it is no different from saving it, so if it takes you longer than 24hrs to complete the 24hr endurance race then by the same token you are devaluing it. Also you don't "dont allow people to spend 100 days doing a marathon 1/4 mile a day because that would devalue the race." However you can pause the game for 100 days and still complete the race, why is that different to saving it? It isn't. Just because one allows you to turn off the system in between. I can complete the endurance race in 100 days and come on here and say I did it in one sitting. How would you know any different? It's just for bragging rights. If PD don't want to devalue the endurance races then it's simple, disable the pause button (you cannot pause a real life race) and allow you to use your B-Spec drivers because Le Mans 24hrs drivers do not drive for 24hrs straight.