So 1.06 didn`t bring option to save game in mid-championship or endurance?

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What Polyphony needs to realize that not only do they need to listen to us, but that not doing so can be hazardous for the fans who do try this event and as such, they run a risk for legal lawsuits.

Right now, the A-Spec 24 Hr. and to a lesser extend, the 9 Hr. are unnecessarily difficult due to their lengths. Players are left with two choices: One, they risk their PlayStation 3 frying by leaving on their system for days. Two, they can risk health issues by doing the twenty-four hours all in one try. What makes this especially unfair is that as other have said, one racers in real-life Le Mans do not have to do all twenty-four hours, three or four people race. This is why B Spec is more reasonable then A-Spec and in that case, I would be okay with leaving my PS3 on for twenty-four hours. But A-Spec is much more dangerous on the PS3 and/or the person doing it.

From this, you can expect lawsuits to occur soon and if Polyphony do not put in an option for mid-race endurance save for the 9 Hr. and 24 Hr., this will eventually happen. Let's take this as a scenario.

Let's say that a GT nuts decides to go twenty-four hours on the screen with no one to talk to and make sure that no one gets to communicate with him. Late in the twenty-four hours race, while he's enjoying a two lap lead with his Jaguar XJ220 Race Car '88, he suffers from a heart condition that surprises him. Not able to call for help, he slowly stays there, dying. He may have gotten his credit for winning the race, but it cost him his life.

After that causality, the girlfriend returns from a weekend trip (We're assuming that the guy is a recently graduated college student) and sees that his boyfriend is dead. She mourns the death of her and then looks at the television screen. It shows that he made 800,000 in credits and saw that it was Gran Turismo 5. She gets infuriated at the game. She tells everyone she knows that the person who played Gran Turismo 5 is dead and then do some research. She finds out that Polyphony developed the game while Sony published it.

The result? They're busted with a class action law suit. The losers are them and us.

Adding in a mid-race save during the 9 Hr. and 24 Hr. would almost certainly prevent this from occurring.
 
dennisp83
I could imagine they would implement it like driving into the pits, and you would see another option next to the tires/fuel dialog, that enables you to 'save progress' and then you will return to the GT Home screen. Just a little like in real life :)

I like that idea.
 
On personal opinion, I believe the save function isn't needed. There are games out there for casual and pro gamers, and GT5 is no exception.

Casual Gamers:

These people play maybe 20-30 minutes a day just cruising or playing with friends online with the occasional "I got a free weekend and I'm going to get as far as I can." attitude. Even then, these people will maybe ever get to A-Spec level 25+ to even reach the endurance races. Even then, there are those who do.

If taken to real life, look at the 24H of Le Mans. People racing the 24H Le Mans are hardcore, to the max, best of the best and so on. You just don't see people who have driven a local track several times in their beaten up Honda Civic to race something as high profile as the 24H Le Mans. Sadly, that's the way GT5 seems to be going with these exp updates making higher levels more easy to obtain.


If you're so upstrung on needing to save in long races, then don't race them. You most likely don't deserve to anyway.
 
For some of us running an entire endurance race without the ability to save is not a possibility, period.

After work, paying attention to the family and all the other things in my life it would take me at least three straight weeks of my PS3 being on.

Not to mention that if I don't completely unplug my PS3 every night, either my three year old or one year old will pop the disk out, it's happened many times before.

Holly true! Same here. I completed only two of endurance's (Grand Valley 300km & Laguna Seca 200). I don't have time, to spend many hours by one time with PS3 and keep running her for week or more to completed 24h endurance.
Please PD make save available...
 
Limelight788
What Polyphony needs to realize that not only do they need to listen to us, but that not doing so can be hazardous for the fans who do try this event and as such, they run a risk for legal lawsuits.

Right now, the A-Spec 24 Hr. and to a lesser extend, the 9 Hr. are unnecessarily difficult due to their lengths. Players are left with two choices: One, they risk their PlayStation 3 frying by leaving on their system for days. Two, they can risk health issues by doing the twenty-four hours all in one try. What makes this especially unfair is that as other have said, one racers in real-life Le Mans do not have to do all twenty-four hours, three or four people race. This is why B Spec is more reasonable then A-Spec and in that case, I would be okay with leaving my PS3 on for twenty-four hours. But A-Spec is much more dangerous on the PS3 and/or the person doing it.

From this, you can expect lawsuits to occur soon and if Polyphony do not put in an option for mid-race endurance save for the 9 Hr. and 24 Hr., this will eventually happen. Let's take this as a scenario.

Let's say that a GT nuts decides to go twenty-four hours on the screen with no one to talk to and make sure that no one gets to communicate with him. Late in the twenty-four hours race, while he's enjoying a two lap lead with his Jaguar XJ220 Race Car '88, he suffers from a heart condition that surprises him. Not able to call for help, he slowly stays there, dying. He may have gotten his credit for winning the race, but it cost him his life.

After that causality, the girlfriend returns from a weekend trip (We're assuming that the guy is a recently graduated college student) and sees that his boyfriend is dead. She mourns the death of her and then looks at the television screen. It shows that he made 800,000 in credits and saw that it was Gran Turismo 5. She gets infuriated at the game. She tells everyone she knows that the person who played Gran Turismo 5 is dead and then do some research. She finds out that Polyphony developed the game while Sony published it.

The result? They're busted with a class action law suit. The losers are them and us.

Adding in a mid-race save during the 9 Hr. and 24 Hr. would almost certainly prevent this from occurring.

That has to be the most convoluted story I've ever read.... And Sony would get such a lawsuit thrown out so fast it would make your head spin. Also Sony doesn't make games for "us" to enjoy. They make games spending the absolute least money possible hoping to get the most bang for their developing buck. This whole "we" both lose thing is actually just we, you and I lose.
 
hey guys, I'm only 14, so I'm not allowed to leave my ps3 on for more than like 6 hours, It would be cool to add a save feature, so I can get to 100% plat, maybe you could lose so much xp or credits for every save? like maybe you lose a fifth of the credits and xp a save?


I like the idea of pitting, and then you save from there, and then when you restart you HAVE to resume the race, or you will have to restart it... :D
 
I don't know how many people will like or hate this, but my thoughts on A Spec endurance was that of the GT4 with a little twist.

A spec should have NO pause in the endurance events. The only way to not race should be to pit, and switch to a b spec. What happens in an emergency when you must go immediately? Well, hit the pause, and it does the same thing that online racing does to take you to the pit, and then change the driver. Now that is a racing simulator. You learn real fast to take your potty break BEFORE starting the race lol.

Oh, and for the people who do this for 23 hours and 48 minutes in a 24 hour race, you get a percentage of the xp/cr. So 96% of the race you spent in another room? You take first, but win 4% of the prizes! Maybe make a requirement of 75%+ to take a trophy, but no matter what get the cr and xp that is due.
 
Kazunori Yamauch lasted for over fourteen years because he had the support of the people. The members of the Polypony digital, The Sony Entertainment, could not oppose him because they had no base of support. The Department of Sony didn't control the game - Kazunori did.
 
@Bounkazz What about pausing the game? It's the same as saving except you can turn you PS off:dunce:

For all the people saying but it's a simulator and if you can pause the game then it's not realistic, well why don't you turn your heater up to to 100 put on a racing suit and helmet then do the 24 hour enduro.
 
/rant start

To all the morons saying saves are not "real"......Where's Practise?, Where's Qualifying? Where's 30-40 cars on track......OH WAIT.....NOT there. This game is nothing about the reality of a 24 hour race AT ALL. FFS, and like so many above have said if ANY of you purist prats use the pause button then you are nothing but complete and UTTER hypocrites whose rabid drivel and opinions spouted on these forums are as worthless and pointless as your lives.

Why not practise what you preach....you say "don't want to do the full 24 hours then don't do it)....how about this monkey brains, Don't want to "cheat" and use a save feature DON'T USE IT.

you endurance purist make me sick to my stomach with your pure elitism , self righteousness, arrogance and selfishness. There's countless VALID reasonable reasons in support of Saves mid endurance, the reasons against are purely selfish elitism.

/rant end
 
That has to be the most convoluted story I've ever read.... And Sony would get such a lawsuit thrown out so fast it would make your head spin. Also Sony doesn't make games for "us" to enjoy. They make games spending the absolute least money possible hoping to get the most bang for their developing buck. This whole "we" both lose thing is actually just we, you and I lose.

there is no chance for a law suit since sony and pd are not forcing you to do the race you do the race under your own terms not theirs
 
@Bounkazz What about pausing the game? It's the same as saving except you can turn you PS off:dunce:

For all the people saying but it's a simulator and if you can pause the game then it's not realistic, well why don't you turn your heater up to to 100 put on a racing suit and helmet then do the 24 hour enduro.

I don't pause, I let my friend race when Im done. Like in real life.

/rant start

To all the morons saying saves are not "real"......Where's Practise?, Where's Qualifying? Where's 30-40 cars on track......OH WAIT.....NOT there. This game is nothing about the reality of a 24 hour race AT ALL. FFS, and like so many above have said if ANY of you purist prats use the pause button then you are nothing but complete and UTTER hypocrites whose rabid drivel and opinions spouted on these forums are as worthless and pointless as your lives.

Why not practise what you preach....you say "don't want to do the full 24 hours then don't do it)....how about this monkey brains, Don't want to "cheat" and use a save feature DON'T USE IT.

you endurance purist make me sick to my stomach with your pure elitism , self righteousness, arrogance and selfishness. There's countless VALID reasonable reasons in support of Saves mid endurance, the reasons against are purely selfish elitism.

/rant end

Lol.
 
One thing is having an endurance race in real life, one thing is staying in front of my tv for hours doing the same thing, pausing for 8 to 20 hours, possibly lose all my advancement for a blackout or possibly brake my ps3.
Sorry but I won't risk.
Not to mention that it's useless electricity consumption....we don't live in the US...
I will never do endurance races then, and I'm not the only one.
 
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/rant start

To all the morons saying saves are not "real"......Where's Practise?, Where's Qualifying? Where's 30-40 cars on track......OH WAIT.....NOT there. This game is nothing about the reality of a 24 hour race AT ALL. FFS, and like so many above have said if ANY of you purist prats use the pause button then you are nothing but complete and UTTER hypocrites whose rabid drivel and opinions spouted on these forums are as worthless and pointless as your lives.

Why not practise what you preach....you say "don't want to do the full 24 hours then don't do it)....how about this monkey brains, Don't want to "cheat" and use a save feature DON'T USE IT.

you endurance purist make me sick to my stomach with your pure elitism , self righteousness, arrogance and selfishness. There's countless VALID reasonable reasons in support of Saves mid endurance, the reasons against are purely selfish elitism.

/rant end

Close your eyes. Think about a nice place. There is nothing now you need to do. Let go of your sorrows. Let go of your thoughts. There are only happy thoughts now. Breath in and let the air flow out of your nose.

That's right.
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OT: totally lolled at your rant 👍
 
/rant start

To all the morons saying saves are not "real"......Where's Practise?, Where's Qualifying? Where's 30-40 cars on track......OH WAIT.....NOT there. This game is nothing about the reality of a 24 hour race AT ALL. FFS, and like so many above have said if ANY of you purist prats use the pause button then you are nothing but complete and UTTER hypocrites whose rabid drivel and opinions spouted on these forums are as worthless and pointless as your lives.

Why not practise what you preach....you say "don't want to do the full 24 hours then don't do it)....how about this monkey brains, Don't want to "cheat" and use a save feature DON'T USE IT.

you endurance purist make me sick to my stomach with your pure elitism , self righteousness, arrogance and selfishness. There's countless VALID reasonable reasons in support of Saves mid endurance, the reasons against are purely selfish elitism.

/rant end

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They just use pause but still say no to Save, but the only diference is PS3 on or off, I could be more understanding with no save if we could do it with Bob's, even if they had put on some minimum time for A-spec like half or a third, this would be more realistic than is now, because no one does, and is not allowed, a endurance race on its own, there are time limits on how much time a driver can drive in a go and also limit to total time in a race done by a single driver.
 
I'm a bit disappointed at this, never mind though it just means that I still won't be doing any endurance races until it does get put in or I won't be doing them at all.
 
Doesn't the game have big disclaimer at start about NOT spending HOURS playing it?!? Saving mid championship or during enduros (while pitted) is a MUST in my book. I like the idea of pitting during an enduro and handing the wheel over to Bob as well.
 
/rant start

To all the morons saying saves are not "real"......Where's Practise?, Where's Qualifying? Where's 30-40 cars on track......OH WAIT.....NOT there. This game is nothing about the reality of a 24 hour race AT ALL. FFS, and like so many above have said if ANY of you purist prats use the pause button then you are nothing but complete and UTTER hypocrites whose rabid drivel and opinions spouted on these forums are as worthless and pointless as your lives.

Why not practise what you preach....you say "don't want to do the full 24 hours then don't do it)....how about this monkey brains, Don't want to "cheat" and use a save feature DON'T USE IT.

you endurance purist make me sick to my stomach with your pure elitism , self righteousness, arrogance and selfishness. There's countless VALID reasonable reasons in support of Saves mid endurance, the reasons against are purely selfish elitism.

/rant end

+1quadrillion. Its sad that the purist elites dont want to respect other peoples opinions or the implementation of CHOICE for the rest of us that dont share there rabid view of a GAME. Ive seen this on so many game and car forums its sad. Choice is wonderful as it allows individuals to choose based on their likes/dislikes, circumstances etc.

A pause, save or bspec Bob jumping in to help are features that elitists DONT HAVE TO USE. So they can continue to be elitists while the rest of us that are not as rabid can also enjoy the enduro and live life for that day. Elitists still get to feel superior by not using the feature while the rest of us losers lol get to go out with wife/girlfriend/friends, see a movie, take a dump etc for that day. See everyone is happy.

Also, to reiterate, no real enduro is run by only "1" driver so it is NOT realistic for a person to sit for 24 hours straight to finish a GAME lol. The choices of save, pause or Bob interventions satisfies all types of gamers. It should be done in the next update PD. Please consider ALL your fans not just the rabid fanatics. I would love to see more choices for all including those of us that are serious fanatics.
 
/extra mini rant

Just thought of something else about the "Endurance purist".

1) if any of you use the PAD, then eff off Also you can eff off if you don't use a wheel with a CLUTCH, so all you DFP and DFGT owners spouting about realism can go forth and do the proverbial multiplying.

2) if you crash at over 100mph, do you jump out of a 2nd floor window to splat upon the ground and break some bones and maybe even die? If not shut the HELL up about this game and REALISM. It's a GAME end of, a DAMN good one that has some problems.

/extra mini rant over.


THIS GAME NEEDS A SAVE OPTION.

Why can't it be implemented in a seperate section like with replays? Maybe allow 4-5 saves of various championships and endurances? The only problems I can foresee would be those similar to GTR2 (which I played a lot and did THREE 12 hour of Sebrings (over the course of a few weeks of course with SAVING), the Ai would be a bit erratic after a save, then again it was an add on track with add on cars.
 
I just had an idea...

Put the save feature in like many of us want, then also insert a trophy for the elitists. The trophy can only be earned if you race ALL of the enduros without saving AND without pausing.

Then we all get our save, the elitists get their precious trophy and all is right with the world.
 
Having to do a 24hour race on pause takes a lot more endurance than , race 20mins > save go play cod for couple days, >play 1 hour of your endurance > go play cod for 1 day> play 20min of the endurance.... u get the point?

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I don't see the problem with stopping to play COD or watch a blue ray movie in the middle of an endurance race. It's just a video game, not a true life endurance race or even a realistic simulation of an endurace race. You don't think the drivers watch movies to relax when they aren't in the car? If I was a driver what would stop me from playing COD if that's what I wanted to do?

If you think it doesn't belong in the game don't use it. For some of us there is no way to complete an event with the current situation.
 
They should have added this. I'm not sure if I could last 24 Hours in an A-Spec race
 
/extra mini rant

Just thought of something else about the "Endurance purist".

1) if any of you use the PAD, then eff off Also you can eff off if you don't use a wheel with a CLUTCH, so all you DFP and DFGT owners spouting about realism can go forth and do the proverbial multiplying.

2) if you crash at over 100mph, do you jump out of a 2nd floor window to splat upon the ground and break some bones and maybe even die? If not shut the HELL up about this game and REALISM. It's a GAME end of, a DAMN good one that has some problems.

/extra mini rant over.


THIS GAME NEEDS A SAVE OPTION.

Why can't it be implemented in a seperate section like with replays? Maybe allow 4-5 saves of various championships and endurances? The only problems I can foresee would be those similar to GTR2 (which I played a lot and did THREE 12 hour of Sebrings (over the course of a few weeks of course with SAVING), the Ai would be a bit erratic after a save, then again it was an add on track with add on cars.

No it doesn't. If you don't have the time/skill to do A RACE, then then you don't deserve to race/finish it.
 
I just had an idea...

Put the save feature in like many of us want, then also insert a trophy for the elitists. The trophy can only be earned if you race ALL of the enduros without saving AND without pausing.

Then we all get our save, the elitists get their precious trophy and all is right with the world.

Good idea! 👍
 
No it doesn't. If you don't have the time/skill to do A RACE, then then you don't deserve to race/finish it.

It has nothing to do with either because the vast majority of the people supposedly finishing the endurance races are using the pause feature to "save" their game progress until they can resume. As for skill :lol:. Try driving a real car (in REAL life) at speed. That requires real skill. GT5 is just a video game. But if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside to feel superior to those of us that refuse to leave our PS3 running for days to complete a video game, then more power to you my friend.
 
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Eh... It's PD listening to these people is what's going to ruin this game.
 
I could imagine they would implement it like driving into the pits, and you would see another option next to the tires/fuel dialog, that enables you to 'save progress' and then you will return to the GT Home screen. Just a little like in real life :)

+1 This is the way, save your progress with a pitstop. Come on PD
 
Eh... It's PD listening to these people is what's going to ruin this game.
What ruins a game is the failure to use common sense.

Let's say that half of the players want to run endurance races the 'purist' way, no saves, no pauses, etc. The other half wants to be able to run them the 'non-purists' way, to save wear and tear on their PS3's, or do other things in between driving stints.

Common sense would say that PD needs to satisfy both. Common sense would say that adding the save feature allows both groups to play the game the way they want to. Adding the save feature doesn't prevent the purists from racing these events the way they want to.

So, what should PD do?
 
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