So 1.06 didn`t bring option to save game in mid-championship or endurance?

[Devedander]

Wow this thread is getting heated.

I'm all for a save feature in enduros. But make it so that everytime you play GT Mode you have to either complete that race or withdraw (sounds more professional than quit doesn't it?).

In other words, just like how GT3 and GT4 had it when doing the championships.

I don't even know why it has to be that restrictive... it's a game... it should be fun... if I have to worry that my buddy will come over before I have finished my enduro and thus we can't play some 2p vs or I can't let him have a shot at a few races without ending my enduro, I don't understand why that is a good thing.

At worst put some trophies or a bonus payout in for completing the enduro a certain way... kind of like rockband did with the endless set.

Yet another person who choses to insult others for no other reason than they have a different opinion on how a 24 hour race should be run.

I'm curious.

If it's "just a game". If racing for 24 hrs is "no kind of achievment". If you have to be "insane" to leave your PS3 on for days. If only "sad desperate lonely" people would run a 24 Hr endurance race......

Then why are so many people so desperate for PD to change the game so they can run it too?

This argument makes no sense at all and doesn't even properly address the points he made...

 

[kencandoyou]

Most people have a life, family, and a job. The fact that save is not there discourages 90% of people from running a marathon because they don't want to waste time running the race.

Surely this is the only reason why we want saves in it? I mean, someone explain to me how save will harm those that do the marathon without pausing? If I was the marathon organizers I would try to make the race attractive to as many people as possible, not discouraging them from racing.


a little spot the difference for you

Yeah but if you pause during a marathon everyone will pass you and you will not win the race, there for not earn a trophy. Not doing a Enduro is not a lack of skill or dedication but a lack of time. You probably have the time to compete in a marathon but don't have the fitness which is completely different.

I'm missing out on some great features like dynamic time/weather and tyre strategies which aren't really used in the rest of the game. Why should a lack of prolonged non stop time (not to be confessed with overall time as in the Final Fantasy analogy) restrict me from playing the GAME (also not to be confused with real life) that paid good money for?

 

[DaveS1138]

Insulting? Merely stating that playing a videogame 24 hours nonstop isn't exactly healthy

I'm sure there are plenty of people who would say that spending our sunday evening debating on a video game forum is hardly a healthy passtime. I doubt that either of us choose to live our life based on what other people would consider "healthy" or "normal" passtimes.

and that the only thing a save option would do is being able to turn off your PS3 or making endurance races available in bite size chunks for those who choose to do so or aren't able to achieve it otherwise due to their schedule, etc.

Perhaps you could explain to me how cutting a race up into "bite sized chunks" is an endurance race?

People dont seem to be able to grasp the concept that an endurance race is supposed to be an endurance. If it isn't an endurance then it isn't an "endurance" race now is it?

Cut an endurance race up into "bite sized chunks" and I don't know what you would choose to call it but the one thing it most certainly is not is an Endurance race.

I didn't say completing a 24 hours race isn't an achievement,

You asked.....

Seriously, why are people against a save option (hence the word option) and what achievement exactly?If you're going to drive 24 hours nonstop yourself, alone, you've got bigger problems than worrying about how others are "cheating".

you questioned what achievment completing a 24 hour race is? How is that not you saying that completing a 24 hour race is not an achievment? You also said that anybody that would complete a 24 hr race has some big problems. A cheap insult to people who want to race a race the way the game intended them to.

just that it's the same achievement whether there's a save function or not when you're playing alone (since I assume and hope not many people are driving 24 hours nonstop).

No it is not the same achievment. You said yourself that you want the ability to break the race up into "bite sized chunks" at which point whatever it is that you have it is no longer an endurance race since there is no endurance involved.

If you break a marathin up into "bite sized chunks" it is not a marathon. If you break a endurance race up into "bite sized chunks" it is not an endurance race.

And where did I mention sad and lonely people?

You didn't. I was compliling different comments that people have made throughout the thread. There seem to be alot of people who want to insult people looking to race a 24 hour endurance race as sad, lonely people with no life who are not achieving anything special in running the race.........and yet are desperate for PD to change the game so they can do this "pointless" race themselves.

If it's so pointless, if finishing the race is no kind of achievment at all.......then why do so many people want the game changed so they can do it too?

Makes no damn sense what so ever.

Yeah but if you pause during a marathon everyone will pass you and you will not win the race, there for not earn a trophy. Not doing a Enduro is not a lack of skill or dedication but a lack of time. You probably have the time to compete in a marathon but don't have the fitness which is completely different.

I'm missing out on some great features like dynamic time/weather and tyre strategies which aren't really used in the rest of the game. Why should a lack of prolonged non stop time (not to be confessed with overall time as in the Final Fantasy analogy) restrict me from playing the GAME (also not to be confused with real life) that paid good money for?

No I dont have the time to run a marathon. The vast majority of marathons have a time limit (typically 6-7 hours) precisley because they understand that the idea of letting people run a marathon in "bite sized chunks" and finish over the course of a few days would stop it from being a marathon.

You are not missing out on any features by not running a 24 hour race. Everything you mention can be found elsewhere in the game. There are also shorter endurance races if you dont have time for the 24 hour races. If you only have time to race for 4 hours before you would need to save and turn off the console until the next time you can game then why not simply run a 4 hour endurance race instead.

 

[robbo6]

I dont have the time to run a marathon. It would take me too long to run the 26 miles 386 yards. I would not be able to finish the race before the race ended.

However. I can cerainly cover 26miles 386 yards if I break it up into small chunks. I have done it hundreds of times in my life.

Do people think I have run multiple marathons? Of course they dont. Because if you said that anybody that had ever covered 26 miles and 386 yards in their life no matter how long it took them becasue they broke it up into small chunks and covered for example 1/4 mile a day (in effect "saving" my progress throughout the 26 miles 386 yards) it would be just stupid.

To say that somebody had run a marathon over the course of 100 days at 1/4 mile a day would completely devalue the meaning of anybody that really did run a marathon.

Just because you PAID PD for GT5 doesn't give you the right to finish everything in the game if you are not prepared to put the time in required to finish them. Lots of people have lots of games that they have not finished 100% because they didn't have the time to play them. Instead of PD adding a save feature to races why not just have them put a nice red easy button on the start menu and if you press it you have finished the game 100%. Then everybody that PAID for the game can finish it. I mean seriously wow! people here seem to think they have some kind of right to finish every game they have just because they PAID for it no matter what they do.

PD are not the ones stopping you from running the endurance races and finishing 100% of the game. You are stopping yourself from running it because you dont have the time to run them. It's perfectly understandable that not everybody will have the time to run them. But to ask PD to re-write the game just because you cant spare a few days of your PS3 gaming time to complete the race........I mean talk about egotistical....



Hmmm...... Having to leave your PS3 on until you finish the race....... that would make it something of a..... oh what's the word.... Endurance, huh.

Firstly, the marathon thing...ok...erm where do I begin. You have done an endurance in a GAME does that compare in anyway to someone who has completed an endurance race in REALITY...erm no not even 1%.

so FORGET the Marathon analogy it's just crap. No one CARES at all wether or not you have done it driving every single second or not, completely and UTTERLY irrelevant to 99.999999999999999999999999% of the GT5 gaming community let alone the world.

And yes I actually do think that I have a right to finish something that I have PAID for....would you PAY for a cinema ticket to see a film then LEAVE 20 mins before the end?? Or PAY for a Meal and leave before eating it all (when you could eat it all), Or PAY for a book and NEVER read the last 50 or so pages??? No you wouldn't VIDEO games are no different and it's the stupid hardcore fraternity of fools who think that it means something to complete a game....again as I say above NO-ONE gives a damn. Video games are entertainment END OF STORY, you want a challenge then grow a pair and enter a REAL endurance. FFS I'm just so SICK of this idea that Video games need to be some sort of HUGE challenge.

It's not egotistical at all to expect PD to put a reasonable function in. A function that I would bet a lot of money on MORE people want than don't want....how is that egotistical then? I think you'll find that it's people like you who DON'T want this feature are the egotistical ones because you get some sort of weird inflated ego thing from completing an Enduro the way it is.

And it's not just time either I think it's an appalling waste of resources to leave a PS3 on, you done it for 3 years which I find mind boggling. Here in the UK we get adverts telling us to not leave electrical appliances on, and here we have PD in their infinite wisdom going against World thinking and sanity.

But fine carry on arguing, it only reinforces what I believe about a certain section of the gaming crowd.

 

[kencandoyou]

Still the fact remains if you pause during a marathon everyone will pass you and you will not win the race, so pausing is just as bad as saving, your argument is flawed. You act like time staying still while you pause is a legitimate race tactic and saving isn't. You say a marathon has a time limit, Honestly how long did it take you to complete the 24H race? if longer than 24h you lose as that also has a time limit too.

I have nothing against people doing it without pausing or pausing as much as they want. Probably not going to change your point of view but come on mate it all sounds a bit selfish, why can't we all share the beauty of these races. Elitism only separates people - we are all GT fans after all.

 

[jmb27]

No I dont have the time to run a marathon. The vast majority of marathons have a time limit (typically 6-7 hours) precisley because they understand that the idea of letting people run a marathon in "bite sized chunks" and finish over the course of a few days would stop it from being a marathon.

A marathon is such a huge accomplishment that if you are capable and willing you should make time for it. If I wanted to run a marathon my family and friends would support this. I would take a couple of vactaion days off from work. While finishing a 24 hour endurance race in a video game is an accomplishment, it isn't on the same level as the real life marathon. The reward is not worth the sacrafice, like it would be for a marathon. If it is for you that's great, but why limit most of the GT players who deam the price to high for the end result.

For me it keeps coming back to the same concept. At the end of the day it's just a video game. It's supposed to be fun. I would have fun if it was even a possibility for me to run an endurance race a few hours at a time. Even though I wouldn't like it, I would be willing to keep my PS3 on for a couple of weeks to accomplish this, but as i stated before, that is not a possibility for me.

 

[BlueSky]

The fact of the matter is that pausing an endurance race and leaving your ps3 on while you do something else (bathroom, eat, sleep, work, etc...) is exactly the same as saving your progress, shutting down your ps3 and doing something else.

If you so called "hardcore" endurance racers really don't want a save feature implemented, then to be fair, PD should DISABLE the pause feature while doing endurance races in the next update. If you hit pause during the endurance race, the game should dump you into GT Life and you should be forced to re-start the race from the beginning. The only way you should be allowed to take a break in the endurance races is if you pit (while the AI continues to race). That's realistic! If you don't agree with this, then you are NOT hardcore, you're just a hypocrite and you shouldn't be complaining about having a save feature added to the endurance races.

As I stated before, a save feature for the endurance races should have been part of the game from the start. If you've done an endurance race and used the "Pause" feature (even if it was for only a minute to use the bathroom) and you don't agree with the save feature being added, then you are not hardcore, you didn't finish the endurance race the way it was intended to be completed (in other words, you cheated) and you are a hypocrite.

PD, please either implement the "Save" feature for endurance races or eliminate the ability to pause during endurance races. That's the only way to be fair about this issue. Without the ability for these folks to save their game by pausing it, you would see far fewer people actually completing the 24 hour races and those that do complete them, will have done them fairly, properly and will deserve to have completed GT5 100%.

 

[DaveS1138]

And yes I actually do think that I have a right to finish something that I have PAID for....would you PAY for a cinema ticket to see a film then LEAVE 20 mins before the end?? Or PAY for a Meal and leave before eating it all (when you could eat it all), Or PAY for a book and NEVER read the last 50 or so pages??? No you wouldn't VIDEO games are no different and it's the stupid hardcore fraternity of fools who think that it means something to complete a game....again as I say above NO-ONE gives a damn. Video games are entertainment END OF STORY, you want a challenge then grow a pair and enter a REAL endurance. FFS I'm just so SICK of this idea that Video games need to be some sort of HUGE challenge.

If you bought a ticket for a 3 hour movie but only had 2 hours you could watch it in would you complain to the movie makers that they should have made the movie only 2 hours long or released the movie in two parts so you could come back tomorrow to watch the 2nd half.

Of course not.

If you bought a meal but then only had 5 mins to eat it in would you complain to the chef that he should have given you happy meal instead since you dont have time to eat the steak. Or ask him to cook the 2nd half for you tomorrow so you can come back to eat the other half.

Of course not.

If you bought a book but only had time to read the first 100 pages would you complain to the writer that he should have made the book smaller.

Of course not.

You paid for GT5. That gives you the right to play GT5 the way PD wrote the game. If you dont have time to run the endurance races then dont run them. It's that plain and simple. Just as me not having 40+ hours to dedicate to a game like Final Fantasy XIII means that I dont have any "right" to get to the end of the game just because I paid for it. Just as me buying a ticket to a 3 hour movie when I only have 2 hours free to watch it does not give me the right to see the end of the movie. It ony gives me the "right" to play the game as it is written or watch the movie the way it was released.

And yes it is completely egotistical to ask PD to break the endurance race by cutting them up into bit sized chunks (stopping them from being the very thing they are supposed to be) just because you dont have time to play them.

And it's not just time either I think it's an appalling waste of resources to leave a PS3 on, you done it for 3 years which I find mind boggling. Here in the UK we get adverts telling us to not leave electrical appliances on, and here we have PD in their infinite wisdom going against World thinking and sanity.

Do I have to give you a list of everything I own that consumes resources. I mean is it OK that I drive the car I drive instead of riding a bicycle? Do I need to tell you how many lights I leave switched on around the house and why? Is it OK for me to have my PS3 on 24 hours because my fridge uses less power than my neighbours who turns his PS3 off whenever he is not using it.

I mean seriously wow.......

I leave my PS3 on because I leave it running Folding@Home a project run by Stanford university to try to find a cure for Alzheimer's, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Try to imgine how little I care that you feel me running my PS3 24 hours a day for that is a waste of resources.

 

[Snakebitten]

There some real ridiculous arguments for why there shouldn't be a save/pause/Bob feature in enduros LOL. There is not logical or persuasive argument that can be or has been made in this thread that shows that a save function in enduros isn't a good idea to satisfy all gamers. Every argument against it sounds like it's coming from people a little too wrapped up in a virtual world of racing that thinks that achievement in game actually means something in real life. Again Its a game people.

PD give your customers the "choice" to save or implement our Bobs so all can be satisfied and this thread can end lol. Let folks have the choice to play the game there circumstances/likes allow them to. That is NEVER a bad thing in a game.

 

[sumbrownkid]

I don't even know why it has to be that restrictive... it's a game... it should be fun... if I have to worry that my buddy will come over before I have finished my enduro and thus we can't play some 2p vs or I can't let him have a shot at a few races without ending my enduro, I don't understand why that is a good thing.

I meant to say that you cannot progress any further until you finish that enduro in GT Mode, everything you do in arcade is unrestricted. So you can have fun with 2p mode with your friend.

And let's have at least some reality factor into it, I mean you can't do a Sunday Cup when you are currently doing a 24 hr race in real life, so the restriction seems justified.

 

[Raitziger]

People should have option to save. If someone believes that this will ruin the purity of the experience, please do not use it. It is same with choosing over powered car to win grid for cash, it should be your decision. Same goes for driving aids, etc. There should be a trophy for doing endurance races without saving if some needs this kind of things to boost self-esteem.

 

[DaveS1138]

can somebody who wants the save feature enabled explain to me why it is so important for you to be able to complete a 24 hour race in "bite sized chunks"?

It seems to me that the only reason somebody who can only race for 2-3 hours at a time would want to complete a 24 hour race over the course of multiple saves would be so they can complete 100% of the game. Why would that be important to anybody other than the achievment involved in doing that? (since so many here seem to think that wanting to achieve something in a video game is stupid anyway.)

There is nothing that you can experience in a 24 hour race that you can't also experience in shorter races within the game other than the actual length of the race. Which is the one thing that adding a save feature is going to remove.

So what is it? Why is it so important for people to complete a 24 hour race when the one thing they keep saying they dont want to do is race for 24 hours?

 

[kencandoyou]

can somebody who wants the save feature enabled explain to me why it is so important for you to be able to complete a 24 hour race in "bite sized chunks"?

It seems to me that the only reason somebody who can only race for 2-3 hours at a time would want to complete a 24 hour race over the course of multiple saves would be so they can complete 100% of the game. Why would that be important to anybody other than the achievment involved in doing that? (since so many here seem to think that wanting to achieve something in a video game is stupid anyway.)

There is nothing that you can experience in a 24 hour race that you can't also experience in shorter races within the game other than the actual length of the race. Which is the one thing that adding a save feature is going to remove.

So what is it? Why is it so important for people to complete a 24 hour race when the one thing they keep saying they dont want to do is race for 24 hours?

How long did it take you and in how many "chunks"?

"There is nothing that you can experience in a 24 hour race that you can't also experience in shorter races"
Sure there is - a full day through night race with more chance of variable weather and tyre selection. Who are you to tell me what I want I'm a fan of the real thing is that hard to understand.

 

[sumbrownkid]

can somebody who wants the save feature enabled explain to me why it is so important for you to be able to complete a 24 hour race in "bite sized chunks"?

It seems to me that the only reason somebody who can only race for 2-3 hours at a time would want to complete a 24 hour race over the course of multiple saves would be so they can complete 100% of the game. Why would that be important to anybody other than the achievment involved in doing that? (since so many here seem to think that wanting to achieve something in a video game is stupid anyway.)

There is nothing that you can experience in a 24 hour race that you can't also experience in shorter races within the game other than the actual length of the race. Which is the one thing that adding a save feature is going to remove.

So what is it? Why is it so important for people to complete a 24 hour race when the one thing they keep saying they dont want to do is race for 24 hours?

For the experience points, completing the game. To get that dollar dollar bill yo.

Those are the three primary reasons why most people do the 24 hrs. Some just do it for that e-glory of a virtual 24hrs win. What I don't get is why the "purists", or so to speak, will have none of the save feature when they are not obligated to play it like that?

People are already "auto-grinding" among other things. A save feature in an enduro shouldn't be so shocking.

 

[SeaNorris]

So why is it so important for you to ensure that saving in endurance races isn't allowed because it takes away from the experience but still allow pausing? It's the same thing, except you can turn off the PS3 inbetween, oh and you can reload which is what you're dead against. Don't see why, it does not affect your game. You will never know how other people completed the race so I just can't see why it matters.

 

[DaveS1138]

How long did it take you and in how many "chunks"?

"There is nothing that you can experience in a 24 hour race that you can't also experience in shorter races"
Sure there is - a full day through night race with more chance of variable weather and tyre selection. Who are you to tell me what I want I'm a fan of the real thing is that hard to understand.

But you wont be experiencing a full day through night race.

You will be driving for a few hours of day racing and then saving the game.

Then at some point in the future you will be driving for a few more hours of day racing and then saving the game.

Then at some point you will be driving for a few more hours of dusk driving and then saving the game.

Then at some point in the future you will be driving for a couple of hours of night driving and then saving the game.


To experience a real day through night transition you will need to race for many more hours than the vast majority of people complaining about a save feature say they have available.


so what is it? Why do people want to race a 24 hour race when the one thing they say is that they absolutely dont want to race for 24 hours?

For the experience points, completing the game. To get that dollar dollar bill yo.

Those are the three primary reasons why most people do the 24 hrs. Some just do it for that e-glory of a virtual 24hrs win. What I don't get is why the "purists", or so to speak, will have none of the save feature when they are not obligated to play it like that?

People are already "auto-grinding" among other things. A save feature in an enduro shouldn't be so shocking.

Experience points and dollars are both available elsewhere in the game. You dont need to run a 24 hour race to get them. And since you would only be running for a couple of hours at a time it would seem to make far more sense to run one of the shorter endurance races to get them. Then there is no need to save at all.

Completing the game seems to be the only reason....... I'm just not sure why people who claim that looking for an achievment in a video game is just stupid feel the need to have the game changed just so they can get to 100% completion.

As to why I dont like the save feature. I have said before I dont have anything like as big a problem with the save feature if it locks you into the race and cannot be used to redo mistakes you make. It's not like I am completely against a save feature. I just think it needs to be a very ristrictive save feature like the resume function on a PSP that allows you to turn off the PSP and then turn it back on to go back only to the point you were at. I have a far bigger issue with saved games allowing do overs than anything else. I still think its a poor solution since breaking an endurance race up into "bite sized chunks" stops it from being an endurance race however.

 

[kencandoyou]

But you wont be experiencing a full day through night race.

You will be driving for a few hours of day racing and then saving the game.

Then at some point in the future you will be driving for a few more hours of day racing and then saving the game.

Then at some point you will be driving for a few more hours of dusk driving and then saving the game.

Then at some point in the future you will be driving for a couple of hours of night driving and then saving the game.


To experience a real day through night transition you will need to race for many more hours than the vast majority of people complaining about a save feature say they have available.

No its a game and I have an imagination can I not pretend to do a 24 hour race, because lets face it, its all pretend after all.

I see you won't tell me how long and how many chunks it took you.

 

[sumbrownkid]

But you wont be experiencing a full day through night race.

You will be driving for a few hours of day racing and then saving the game.

Then at some point in the future you will be driving for a few more hours of day racing and then saving the game.

Then at some point you will be driving for a few more hours of dusk driving and then saving the game.

Then at some point in the future you will be driving for a couple of hours of night driving and then saving the game.


To experience a real day through night transition you will need to race for many more hours than the vast majority of people complaining about a save feature say they have available.


so what is it? Why do people want to race a 24 hour race when the one thing they say is that they absolutely dont want to race for 24 hours?



Experience points and dollars are both available elsewhere in the game. You dont need to run a 24 hour race to get them. And since you would only be running for a couple of hours at a time it would seem to make far more sense to run one of the shorter endurance races to get them. Then there is no need to save at all.

Completing the game seems to be the only reason....... I'm just not sure why people who claim that looking for an achievment in a video game is just stupid feel the need to have the game changed just so they can get to 100% completion.

As to why I dont like the save feature. I have said before I dont have anything like as big a problem with the save feature if it locks you into the race and cannot be used to redo mistakes you make. It's not like I am completely against a save feature. I just think it needs to be a very ristrictive save feature like the resume function on a PSP that allows you to turn off the PSP and then turn it back on to go back only to the point you were at. I have a far bigger issue with saved games allowing do overs than anything else. I still think its a poor solution since breaking an endurance race up into "bite sized chunks" stops it from being an endurance race however.

The 24hrs enduro give huge amount of exp now I think, more so than what a couple of hours of single race grinding can give you. And I can see your point about people abusing the save feature to start over from a big mistake, but its a glaring hole that PD will have to accept if they can't add any measures to prevent such abusing.

 

[DaveS1138]

No its a game and I have an imagination can I not pretend to do a 24 hour race, because lets face it, its all pretend after all.

I see you won't tell me how long and how many chunks it took you.

I'm at lvl 34 and cant do the 24 hour races until I am at lvl 35. When I do unlock them I will be throwing a endurance party with 4 friends to see if we can get the Le mans race finished. beer, pizza, movies, (timed to take in a soccer game in the morning so long as I get 35 unlocked in time) and taking it in shifts to race. Maybe we get it finished maybe we dont. I plan to have fun finding out.

Is that OK with you?

The 24hrs enduro give huge amount of exp now I think, more so than what a couple of hours of single race grinding can give you. And I can see your point about people abusing the save feature to start over from a big mistake, but its a glaring hole that PD will have to accept if they can't add any measures to prevent such abusing.

They do give a big payout but they also take a very long time to complete. especially if people are going to be saving to play them over multiple days.

If you are just looking for XP or dollars there are easier and faster ways to get them. I just dont see any reason why people say they must do the 24 hour races other than to get to 100% completion and as I said I just find that funny since every time I say that I want the achievment aspect of the endurance races kept intact I get told to get over myself it's just a game and achievments in games mean nothing..........but apparently getting to 100% completion is different

I think the abuse of a saved file is very easy to fix. You just set it up so when you start up the game it drops you right back into the race and deletes the saved file you created. No possibility of getting a do over.

But again that doesn't address the question I was asking. If people dont want to race for 24 hours then why do they want to take part in a 24 hour race?

 

[SeaNorris]

No it is not OK since saving is not OK with you. You're lucky that you have more than just yourself willing to do such a race but not everyone has that luxury (and since you can't use B-Spec, the save feature would be needed). I don't see why you care if people reload a save, it doesn't affect you. I've never seen a game that makes you have to leave your PS3 on for 24hrs (or longer) to get 100%, it's a joke.

 

[sumbrownkid]

I'm at lvl 34 and cant do the 24 hour races until I am at lvl 35. When I do unlock them I will be throwing a endurance party with 4 friends to see if we can get the Le mans race finished. beer, pizza, movies, (timed to take in a soccer game in the morning so long as I get 35 unlocked in time) and taking it in shifts to race. Maybe we get it finished maybe we dont. I plan to have fun finding out.

Is that OK with you?

That is the best way to do a 24 hr enduro, with friends in one sitting. Only if I were doing it, grass would be taking the place of beer...

 

[kencandoyou]

I'm at lvl 34 and cant do the 24 hour races until I am at lvl 35. When I do unlock them I will be throwing a endurance party with 4 friends to see if we can get the Le mans race finished. beer, pizza, movies, (timed to take in a soccer game in the morning so long as I get 35 unlocked in time) and taking it in shifts to race. Maybe we get it finished maybe we dont. I plan to have fun finding out.

Is that OK with you?

Didn't know you hadn't started it but thats fine with me, you can do what you want - why can't I?

 

[DaveS1138]

No it is not OK since saving is not OK with you. You're lucky that you have more than just yourself willing to do such a race but not everyone has that luxury (and since you can't use B-Spec, the save feature would be needed). I don't see why you care if people reload a save, it doesn't affect you. I've never seen a game that makes you have to leave your PS3 on for 24hrs (or longer) to get 100%, it's a joke.

With the exception of a 24 hour endurance race in a racing game what other type of game would require one part of a game to take 24 hours anyway? GT5 has this because it has 24 hour races in it. in a FPS for example they dont need to give you the entire mission. You dont have to get on a plane, fly to Iraq, parachute behind the enemy lines and then start the firefight.....because the part of the game you are plying is the firefight and that is over on 30 mins or so.

But when you race a 24 hour race you are racing for those full 24 hours. There is no way to eliminate part of that race and still have it be a 24 hour race.

as I have said multiple times it does effect me if saving the game removes the achievment of finishing an endurance race. just as alowing people to finish a marathon over the course of 100 days would destroy the achievment of running a marathon.

You can feel free to add to the people that say I should get over myself and that an achievment in a video game means nothing but then expain to me why it is so important for you to take part in a 24 hour race when you dont want to race for 24 hours.

There are shorter races you can take part in to fit whatever length of time you have available. Why is it so important to also do the 24 hour races when you dont want to race for 24 hours?

That is the best way to do a 24 hr enduro, with friends in one sitting. Only if I were doing it, grass would be taking the place of beer...

Nice If I lived closer to Florida you would be more than welcome to join us

Didn't know you hadn't started it but thats fine with me, you can do what you want - why can't I?

If it had no effect on my game I wouldn't care at all. But when you ask PD to change the game they change everybodys game not just yours.

I never had the ability to finish the 24 hour races in GT4. I never felt the need to ask PD to change the game just so I could.

 

[JeffKill]

as I have said multiple times it does effect me if saving the game removes the achievment of finishing an endurance race. just as alowing people to finish a marathon over the course of 100 days would destroy the achievment of running a marathon.

I don't see how it would take away from your achievement. You know yourself that you did it, correct? What else matters? Bragging rights?

 

[Caliper]

I can find the time and way to do all the endurance up until the 24h

I'm pretty much just missing the 9h events before getting to the 24h endurance
BUT, if I somehow manage to get a whole week off and do a 24h, perfect, my main problem is, the XP, I would have to do it several times to get to 40, now that's ridiculous, I busted my ass to do a 24h and now I have to do it again and again and again to unlock the next 24h race...

If it's too difficult to implement a mid race save, I understand, then implement B-Spec to it. I mean, why the hell are you suppose to train them? I thought it was so they could assist you in the end. Or if a save is added, then restricted the amount of saves to 3 or something, splitting the event in three 8h stints to keep the "endurance" aspect of it.

As for cheating, there will ALWAYS be cheating in a videogame, and the endurance events are not exempt from it, there is already that pit glitch were you overshoot and then the computer starts driving till the end, at one point people will find a way to use it at the 24h.

 

[salanos]

It seems there's a lot of pages for me to go through but i'll just ask, anyone ever thought of saving inbetween Championship events?

 

[kencandoyou]

If it had no effect on my game I wouldn't care at all. But when you ask PD to change the game they change everybodys game not just yours.

I never had the ability to finish the 24 hour races in GT4. I never felt the need to ask PD to change the game just so I could.

It won't effect your game you just think it will, I mean how much would it hurt you to let a few more people get some more enjoyment from the game. But in the end its up to PD if they add it or not and most people do want the option, but that doesn't mean it will happen lol. Anyway have fun with the 24h race, I wish I had the time or a save function so I can enjoy it too - because thats all I want

 

[DaveS1138]

I don't see how it would take away from your achievement. You know yourself that you did it, correct? What else matters? Bragging rights?

and as I asked why do people need to run a 24 hour endurance race if they dont want to race for 24 hours.......just so they can be 100% complete in the game......why do they need that if not for bragging rights?

I can find the time and way to do all the endurance up until the 24h

I'm pretty much just missing the 9h events before getting to the 24h endurance
BUT, if I somehow manage to get a whole week off and do a 24h, perfect, my main problem is, the XP, I would have to do it several times to get to 40, now that's ridiculous, I busted my ass to do a 24h and now I have to do it again and again and again to unlock the next 24h race...

If it's too difficult to implement a mid race save, I understand, then implement B-Spec to it. I mean, why the hell are you suppose to train them? I thought it was so they could assist you in the end. Or if a save is added, then restricted the amount of saves to 3 or something, splitting the event in three 8h stints to keep the "endurance" aspect of it.

As for cheating, there will ALWAYS be cheating in a videogame, and the endurance events are not exempt from it, there is already that pit glitch were you overshoot and then the computer starts driving till the end, at one point people will find a way to use it at the 24h.

I'm not sure how many people would be happy with a mid race save for the 24 hour races. The people complaining that they cant do 24 hours in one sitting are unlikely to be any more able to do 12 hours in one sitting. (or even 8 hours for the 3 saves).

It seems there's a lot of pages for me to go through but i'll just ask, anyone ever thought of saving inbetween Championship events?

I cant speak for anybody else but I have no problem with saving mid championship. So long as it's only in between races and you still need to finish the championship before you can move on to other events.

 

[JeffKill]

and as I asked why do people need to run a 24 hour endurance race if they dont want to race for 24 hours.......just so they can be 100% complete in the game......why do they need that if not for bragging rights?

Im not all that worried about it really. I'd like to do them, but definitely don't have the time to complete them in 1,2 or even 3 sittings probably. If they give us the option to save or allow b-spec to take over for a while, then I'll do them.

Nothing to brag about, it's just a video game.

 

[SeaNorris]

and as I asked why do people need to run a 24 hour endurance race if they dont want to race for 24 hours.......just so they can be 100% complete in the game......why do they need that if not for bragging rights?

Then why allow the pause? You are not racing for 24hours if you pause at any time. Therefore the pause feature should be removed. I like to play games to 100% but I don't see why I should have to sit and drive for 24hours to get it, why can't I use my B-Spec driver to do it with me? Now if that was implemented then I wouldn't be bothered about not being able to save, what's the issue with using a B-Spec driver? Answer me that. Surely that doesn't "devalue" the race (again, you don't really know how anyone completes the race anyway so don't see why it matters).