So who's the best ever superhero?
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Didn't Deadpool use Wolverines DNA to become immortal after finding out he was going to die? I think I read that some where before.
My vote goes to The Punisher for badness, style and attitude.
My vote goes to The Punisher for badness, style and attitude.
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If that's what you think, you are honestly off every bit of your rocker.
For me, my favorite would be an absolute tie between X-Man and Captain Marvel. Both so unbelievably powerful, well, I'll just leave it at that - what more could I possibly say?
As for my favorite superhero that no one seems to know a damn thing about, that would go to The Sentry....I still have no idea how to measure "The power of one million exploding suns." Just....W. T. F.
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Powerful is one thing... best is another.
There's a fascination with making the most "powerful" superhero... but an all-powerful hero makes for terrible storytelling. Which is why, for a new series, they had turn Goku into a kid again... why DC had to invent Kryptonite and why Marvel had to rip the adamantium out of Wolverine... why the Hulk has to be evil... and why Spiderman and Batman outmovie them all.
(Hell, the original Firestorm could kick all their butts with his transmutation powers... instant kryptonite! Transmute the air in everyone's lungs into cyanide! Muwahahaha!)
The best superheroes... meaning they do the most with what they've got... have got to be Captain America, Spiderman, Batman and Green Arrow. But Green Arrow is too fringe, Captain America has been hobbled by years of poor writing and lost relevance, and Batman is too... perfect.
So, it's: Spiderman.
Yes, he has super powers... and the spider-sense ability has become so overblown that they've had to come up with ways around it... but here we have a regular guy working several jobs just to make ends meet moonlighting as a superhero. And unlike Batman, who is on friendly terms with the police, or Superman or Captain America, who are icons, he's misunderstood, feared by some and hated by others.
Even when he loses his powers (can't recall which issue... during this arc he has a grand fight with The Lizard over the rooftops), without martial arts or military training, strength or high-tech equipment (beyond his web-shooters), he still tries to take on foes who could crush him flat in an instant.
In the end, I pick him because he's cool, he's believable and he's believably human. While many have tried the "flawed" superhero format, none get it quite as right as Spiderman.
There's a fascination with making the most "powerful" superhero... but an all-powerful hero makes for terrible storytelling. Which is why, for a new series, they had turn Goku into a kid again... why DC had to invent Kryptonite and why Marvel had to rip the adamantium out of Wolverine... why the Hulk has to be evil... and why Spiderman and Batman outmovie them all.
(Hell, the original Firestorm could kick all their butts with his transmutation powers... instant kryptonite! Transmute the air in everyone's lungs into cyanide! Muwahahaha!)
The best superheroes... meaning they do the most with what they've got... have got to be Captain America, Spiderman, Batman and Green Arrow. But Green Arrow is too fringe, Captain America has been hobbled by years of poor writing and lost relevance, and Batman is too... perfect.
So, it's: Spiderman.
Yes, he has super powers... and the spider-sense ability has become so overblown that they've had to come up with ways around it... but here we have a regular guy working several jobs just to make ends meet moonlighting as a superhero. And unlike Batman, who is on friendly terms with the police, or Superman or Captain America, who are icons, he's misunderstood, feared by some and hated by others.
Even when he loses his powers (can't recall which issue... during this arc he has a grand fight with The Lizard over the rooftops), without martial arts or military training, strength or high-tech equipment (beyond his web-shooters), he still tries to take on foes who could crush him flat in an instant.
In the end, I pick him because he's cool, he's believable and he's believably human. While many have tried the "flawed" superhero format, none get it quite as right as Spiderman.
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He is a true poker ace and drives Aston Martins at astonishing speeds, yeah I agree, but the overall best superhero by far is Spiderman, he is smart, intelligent, makes mistakes and recognizes them, he's human after all ( Well, sorta ), Batman is a ridiculous playboy, he has so much money that he doesn't even know how to spend it properly, then building ultra high-tech toys to fight crime ( and paying Alfred ) is the way to go.
As for the best secret agent, Bond is bond, but he will never be cool as this guy:
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Colonel Hunter Gathers is also the man. He defected and got a sex change operation to join a radical female terror cell, but was a double agent all along. Now that's dedication to a craft. I love the Venture Bros. hero/villain system.
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Not if you cut off his head, which Deadpool is probably about to do.
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I'm going with Dragon Ball, too. Cultural bias, as while I like heroes like Batman in movies, I've never been a fan of American comic books.
While Vegeta is my personal favorite(you gotta love his flaws), I gotta go with Goku. He's been there since the beginning.
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While Vegeta is my personal favorite(you gotta love his flaws), I gotta go with Goku. He's been there since the beginning.
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Comic version was the way to go. Expectedly, watered down doesn't begin to describe the anime version of Dragon Ball. I liked it all the way until Majin Buu. You could really tell "Jump"(weekly comic mag) was twisting his arm to continue their best selling saga.I liked the eariler DB stories... back before they started getting ridiculously powerful... and special attacks took hours to execute and battles took weeks. (well, it feels like weeks every time I watch
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Comic version was the way to go. Expectedly, watered down doesn't begin to describe the anime version of Dragon Ball. I liked it all the way until Majin Buu. You could really tell "Jump"(weekly comic mag) was twisting his arm to continue their best selling saga.
(Visions of Simpson episode showing Koreans in sweatshop condition drawing the cartoon...)
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I have no idea what a Goku is, so I read up on it.
I have to say that, even for comic books with double-backwards alternate evil evil universes, it makes no sense. Goku is an alien and some other people are aliens and he's the best because he can turn into a really powerful version of one but is killed by his brother then isn't and someone cuts his tail off (and so on)...
Then again, I have the same issue with lots of comic book characters. Especially the ones they kill off and then bring back again.
I have to say that, even for comic books with double-backwards alternate evil evil universes, it makes no sense. Goku is an alien and some other people are aliens and he's the best because he can turn into a really powerful version of one but is killed by his brother then isn't and someone cuts his tail off (and so on)...
Then again, I have the same issue with lots of comic book characters. Especially the ones they kill off and then bring back again.
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I liked the eariler DB stories... back before they started getting ridiculously powerful... and special attacks took hours to execute and battles took weeks. (well, it feels like weeks every time I watch
Battles did take weeks, and I always I thought Goku was a hacker.
He dies soo many times but he came back soo many times
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Didn't Goku's Spirit Bomb on Namek take three 30-minute episodes to charge up?
15 minutes he was yelling for the energy...the other 15 minutes, He was talking. Per episode.
DC and Marvel always acknowledge their alternate universes while Goku visits other universes and comes back with different clothes. He has went to hell( probably for food), came back .Then he went to heaven ( for food), came back and after DragonBall GT(or AF) we don't know where he went off to. (Vegeta has a brother...)
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a doubt, what is a superhero to you? because technically and legally only the characters of Marvel Comics and DC Comics are "superheroes", so I choose Kara.
if not, Sheldon Cooper
if not, Sheldon Cooper
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This is why I voted for Wolverine as the most capable - because he's immortal. Superman, Batman, etc. etc. will all eventually die of old age. Wolverine can outlive them all just by hanging out on the beach.
He's not immortal, he just has healing factor. He could die if he got completely incinerated or something. Superman and Wolverine are very similar in this regard.
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