So who's the best ever superhero?

[Northstar]

Everyman

His only weakness is donuts.

For the Record, that episode did suck, but it's Homer in a superhero outfit.

 

[Famine]

So, anyway, Doctor Manhattan.

 

[Terronium-12]

Battles did take weeks, and I always I thought Goku was a hacker.

Spoiler

He dies soo many times but he came back soo many times

Since we are bringing Anime now, Amuro Ray or Char Aznable.

Really, nk? Two of the most powerful Newtypes in UC? You're a nutjob.

If that's the case...I'd like to bring in Ribbons Almark and Setsuna F. Seiei.

 

[Driving Park]

Underdog. Duh.

Or The Tick. http://images.fanpop.com/images/image_uploads/The-Tick-the-tick-145562_800_1038.jpg

 

[a6m5]

They can be from anime, etc., but this is a superhero thread. I love Sheldon Cooper, Amuro, etc., but are they superheroes? I think not!

 

[Terronium-12]

They can be from anime, etc., but this is a superhero thread. I love Sheldon Cooper, Amuro, etc., but are they superheroes? I think not!

Well, considering Amuro was able to do what no one else could at the time (pilot an entirely new mobile suit using nothing more than pure intuition and the rather small information he knew beforehand) and was able to stop a gigantic asteroid with his mind (and the Nu Gundam, along with Char and some other suits helping out), and is capable of knowing what you're thinking before you even finish thinking it. I'd say he definitely qualifies as being a Superhero. Maybe not by the conventional comic book definition, but nevertheless....

 

[a6m5]

Well, considering Amuro was able to do what no one else could at the time (pilot an entirely new mobile suit using nothing more than pure intuition and the rather small information he knew beforehand) and was able to stop a gigantic asteroid with his mind (and the Nu Gundam, along with Char and some other suits helping out), and is capable of knowing what you're thinking before you even finish thinking it. I'd say he definitely qualifies as being a Superhero. Maybe not by the conventional comic book definition, but nevertheless....

OK, I haven't watched Gundam since the 80's, and I don't know what the heck you are talking about, so I guess you win.

Asteroid with his mind?

 

[Terronium-12]

OK, I haven't watched Gundam since the 80's, and I don't know what the heck you are talking about, so I guess you win.

Asteroid with his mind?

It's in the ending scene of Char's Counterattack. Mind you, he didn't stop it purely with his mind but...ugh...it's hard to explain without writing something equivalent to a newspaper article.

 

[niky]

So, anyway, Doctor Manhattan.

The floating blue penis?

Interesting thing... Doctor Manhattan was based loosely on Captain Atom... who, in his reincarnation under DC, took a silvery look not entirely unlike Manhattan's bluish-tinge. And they came out around the same time.

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Come on... nobody else liked Firestorm?!?

Two guys in one body! What's not to like?

 

[tfujiwara]

Two guys in one body! What's not to like?

I know right?

 

[a6m5]

It's in the ending scene of Char's Counterattack. Mind you, he didn't stop it purely with his mind but...ugh...it's hard to explain without writing something equivalent to a newspaper article.

Well, IMO, he might be a genius, even a psychic, but I don't know about a superhero. Now, RX-78, there's a hero.

Two guys in one body! What's not to like?

Ugh.

 

[Omnis]

So, anyway, Doctor Manhattan.

Mm, indeed.

Right, he could die - but time won't kill him. That's what I mean by immortal, non-aging. Superman will eventually die of old age.

We don't know if he's non-aging. We just know that his lifespan is an order or a few orders of magnitude longer than a normal human's. What is the average age of a Kryptonian supposed to be?

 

[Terronium-12]

Well, IMO, he might be a genius, even a psychic, but I don't know about a superhero. Now, RX-78, there's a hero.

Using that logic Amuro is a superhero then, as Gundam is an extension of his overall capabilities; just like the Nega Bands are the key to unleashing Captain Marvel.

I'm being overly geeky, aren't I?

Let's just agree to agree. Also, I'd like to say Vegito FTW, too bad Toriyama used him (them) as nothing more than a plot device, in both the manga and the anime.

 

[TB]

Must.

Escape.

The nerds.​

 

[Terronium-12]

You can't escape us.

Even when we're not around - we're around.

 

[a6m5]

I can't help it, I grew up in Japan. As for the rest of the guys in this thread, I don't know what to tell ya.

 

[Terronium-12]

I can't help it, I grew up in Japan. As for the rest of the guys in this thread, I don't know what to tell ya.

You grew up in Japan?

Yeah, I officially do not like you anymore. Let's see, it's you, Rue, and Speedy Samurai....all people I dislike for various awesome reasons.

 

[niky]

I can't help it, I grew up in Japan. As for the rest of the guys in this thread, I don't know what to tell ya.

I'm 1/4th to 1/2 Japanese... if that helps.

 

[Peter]

Kazunori Yamauchi!!

He would program all the superheroes to skidmarks!

It'd take him 5 years to do it though, not to mention the fact that 80% of them would look much worse than the rest.

 

[Dravonic]

Not really a hero, more like a villain, but I'd say Magneto.

Piss him off and he'll make your blood reverse in your veins!

 

[Peter]

Umm, Magneto can only control metal. Your blood isn't metal. Jean Grey on the other hand, now she can turn you into dust.

 

[Dravonic]

Umm, Magneto can only control metal. Your blood isn't metal. Jean Grey on the other hand, now she can turn you into dust.

Well tell that to the writers. According to them, Magneto can manipulate the iron in your hemoglobin.

 

[Terronium-12]

Thanos with the Infinity Gems

/thread

EDIT: Oh, I forgot about the superhero part. He did what he did to impress Death though, does that count?

 

[nk4e]

I'm 1/4th to 1/2 Japanese... if that helps.

Pending on the location, I always thought you were full blooded Filipino.

Really, nk? Two of the most powerful Newtypes in UC? You're a nutjob.

Maybe I am...maybe I am..

 

[niky]

Pending on the location, I always thought you were full blooded Filipino.

At most half, at the very least, about 1/4th. I'm sure there's some Spanish and Chinese in there somewhere...

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

Two guys in one body! What's not to like?

Sounds like the porn I watched last night. As I remember, the woman had nothing bad to say about it.

 

[Famine]

Sounds like the porn I watched last night. As I remember, the woman had nothing bad to say about it.

I suppose she's been taught never to speak with her mouth full.

Anyway. Dr. Manhattan.

Unbound by concerns of the physical world, can live outside of time, cannot be harmed, can call anything into existence by willing it and can even be in several places at once. And can turn Superman, Batman, Wolverine, Deadpool, Goku, Galactus and Rorschach into a rapidly expanding bubble of goo without even thinking about it.

I think that qualifies him as "best".

 

[Danoff]

He's more of a God really than a superhero isn't he? Like a force of nature so far removed from the concerns of mankind that he's almost to be considered simply a part of the backdrop of nature?

 

[FoolKiller]

Umm, Magneto can only control metal. Your blood isn't metal. Jean Grey on the other hand, now she can turn you into dust.

At the risk of going ultra-geeky: Magneto controls electromagnetism, which is not just effective against metal.
http://www.magnetowasright.com/pages/analysis/the-science-of-magneto.php

However, the iron in your hemoglobin thing was a step beyond by the writers as iron loses its magnetic properties when it bonds with oxygen.

Anyway. Dr. Manhattan.

Unbound by concerns of the physical world, can live outside of time, cannot be harmed, can call anything into existence by willing it and can even be in several places at once. And can turn Superman, Batman, Wolverine, Deadpool, Goku, Galactus and Rorschach into a rapidly expanding bubble of goo without even thinking about it.

I think that qualifies him as "best".

I would agree but he is easily confused by tachyons and random chance/fate.

However, I must also argue against the superhero title. Metahuman (if he can be classified as such), yes, superhero, no. There is a certain moral obligation to the hero title and he lacks the moral conviction necessary due to his being unconcerned with the physical world. If your reaction to the extinction or mass murder of a sentient species is merely boredom then I have trouble considering you a hero. That is compounded even more if your reaction to finding the man responsible is to decide he is right.



My all-time favorite was always Wolverine. The healing factor is, or was, a bit too much. In the Civil War storyline Nitro incinerated Wolverine to a skeleton, and he healed. Deadpool has lost his head and had it heal when reattached to the neck. After Civil War they actually worked to slow down Wolverine's healing factor a bit. However, it can be overtaxed so that he is down and out for an extended period of time, as he was when Magneto ripped out his adamantium.

And those with healing factors do age, although Deadpool was seen by the New X-Factor 800 years in the future and in Wolverine: The End Logan has clearly aged, has one broken and unhealed claw, although he still exhibits a healing factor, and mention is made of him being 210 years old, but that was from another character's quote and not a statement of fact. I doubt its validity considering that Wolverine: Origin is in the same timeline/reality and has him being born 200+ years ago. At best guess, I would say he was closer to 400 years old in The End.

 

[Famine]

I would agree but he is easily confused by tachyons and random chance/fate.

Indeed, but not to the point of his own destruction.

He's the ADHD superhe hey look, a neutrino!

However, I must also argue against the superhero title. Metahuman (if he can be classified as such), yes, superhero, no. There is a certain moral obligation to the hero title and he lacks the moral conviction necessary due to his being unconcerned with the physical world. If your reaction to the extinction or mass murder of a sentient species is merely boredom then I have trouble considering you a hero. That is compounded even more if your reaction to finding the man responsible is to decide he is right.

Supers often lack the heroism. Not necessarily to that extent, admittedly, but many of them can be defined by occasional ambivalence and a smidge of self-centredness. Moore's Supers are renowned for it - Dr. Manhattan as above, Rorschach is a psychopath, V is just out for revenge - but it's not limited to him.

I suppose the other thing counting against Manhattan as a superhero is that he doesn't have a secret identity...