SONY taking the p with uk dlc price!!

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What? You pay the taxes on your purchases.

The "announced" price of the DLC is 11.99, but the final price, after state sales tax is added, will be around $13.50, here in New York. Some states have more some states less.

Wanna a bet??? you will pay 11.99 as final price... no matter what state your in.
 
Its not the amount of money its the frigging principle of it... and what exactly is the VAT going on? I mean I'm getting sick to the back teeth of the UK ripping off good honest people, We get taxed on wages, we then get taxed 20% on everything we buy even digital stuff that could actually be coming from the moon for all we know, Then we get taxed on driving our cars, taxed like 80% on fuel to put in the cars, TAX TAX TAX! god damned joke!
 
So you spend £160-200 a month on food at work. Ever thought of doing some shopping? I'm not poor, or lacking in income but the thought of spending that amount on money on casual eating kills me. Where I work has exortbitantly prized sandwiches but I'll never buy one when I can make my own for about 1/5 of the price. Spend the money on beer instead!:)

I used to take my own in but I'm mega lazy, today though lunch was a little cheaper it only cost me £5 :D
 
brainfade
It's how much an actually pint of beer costs in Central/City London where I hang out alot lol, double it and thats howmuch a shot of (cheap) whisky costs lol.

So whats that like 15 u.s.?(im sure im wrong) Ouch. Surely theres some dives in an around london
 
You can argue about prices for different Countries all you like, reality is. The value of a good is determined by the price people will pay for it. Quite simple. If you don't want to pay the price, don't. Wait a while, the price will drop.

For me I'm happy to have got so much extra content for free. I've definitely got value for money out of GT5, compared to other PS3 titles I own, or even other entertainment options. The amount of time GT5 has kept me entertained, I'd say it's an absolute bargain.
 
£9.50 isnt a "lot" of money, however if you were to value the whole game at the same level they value this small package of extra cars and 1 track/suits/helmets/paint at then GT5 would cost hundreds in the shops.

What I want to know is if you buy the DLC do you get unlimited numbers of these paint chips and gear?
 
Well the way I see it is paying someone for the work they are doing. Do I want more DLC in the form of cars and tracks? Hell yes, so I will pay PD for it, then that will incentivize them to make more DLC in the future. It will also probably help them in the production of GT6 because maybe they'll be able to hire more people with profits from DLC and then maybe GT6 will be a bigger/ better game.

I want to support the industry, and everyone who enjoys playing GT should want to support PD as well. I might feel differently if the physics update wasn't good- but it turned out great and I like driving in GT5 again.
 
Isn't 10 bucks still 10 only bucks in Europe? We pay $11.99 for the whole pack here in North America. Theoretically it is cheaper over there.

I wonder, since the Euro is worth more do people get payed less Euro's? E.g. Instead of $10 an hour at McDonalds in America it's around €7 in Europe? It might makes a little more sense to me then.
 
Isn't 10 bucks still 10 only bucks in Europe? We pay $11.99 for the whole pack here in North America.

I wonder, since the Euro is worth more do people get payed less Euro's? E.g. Instead of $10 an hour at McDonalds in America it's around €7 in Europe? It might makes a little more sense to me then.

I know my salary here reflects the value of the pound. The actual number of my salary was higher back in canada, but if you were to exchange what i make in pounds back to Canadian, it would be more.

Not everything is super expensive in the UK. Mostly just electronics (ie phones, game consoles, games etc) have this strange mark-up.

EDIT: ...oh and everything in central London is expensive Hahaha
 
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The prices are set so they are nice, round and comparable for each regions economy. The difference you notice is just exchange rates.

Anyway its 10 quid for 2 tracks, 15? cars and a shed load of extras. 10 quid, that's all. It's not like we are talking serious money here, it's pocket money.

Correction, it's a quarter of what the game cost for what, about a hundredth of what's in the game already?

If the thing about the price increase being solely down to VAT though, that's a total rip-off.
 
Harsh times???? harsh is to have to pay your parents to be able to study... you dont work and have to pay to study? what do you do to get money?? steal, deal drugs?

I take it you are not in the UK so why post here if you cant relate???? some countrys have money laundering laws (from a few decades ago) making a bit more dificult to live without working...
I don't pay to study. I get paid for studying, but I pay my parents a small amount each month as a way to take responsibility and a way to say thanks for the clean clothes, food, internet and roof over my head. I work during the summers and hopefully I'll get employed at one of the industries I've been on, thanks to the education. Everyone who studies in Sweden gets payed for doing so. You can also take study loans, but I rather live at home than take loans.

Sweden of course has money laundering laws too, why wouldn't we? We're a member of the EU you know.

Back to topic....
 
Jesus PD must love you guys, you're so easily suckered in. I don't understand all of these "It's only $10, that's nothing" and "It's only the cost of a few beers/coffees therefore it's not expensive" comments.

Those items cost that much. That is their price, so you pay that for them. The DLC being a similar price is irrelevant because it's a completely different market, a market where prices vary and you should buy things based on your desire for them, AND if you think it represents value for money.

Yes, it is "only" $10 and that isn't a lot of money in the grand scheme of things, but haven't you guys got any principles? Do you just thrown your money at anything? A lot of you seem to be saying the content is irrelevant, you're paying up simply because it's not much money and you want to "support" PD. You already did that paying for the game itself, making PD plenty of money.

The cost of other DLC in other games is also irrelevant. If you think they're overpriced, don't buy them either. But don't use those more expensive prices to justify the cost of the GT5 DLC.
 
Jesus PD must love you guys, you're so easily suckered in. I don't understand all of these "It's only $10, that's nothing" and "It's only the cost of a few beers/coffees therefore it's not expensive" comments.

Those items cost that much. That is their price, so you pay that for them. The DLC being a similar price is irrelevant because it's a completely different market, a market where prices vary and you should buy things based on your desire for them, AND if you think it represents value for money.

Yes, it is "only" $10 and that isn't a lot of money in the grand scheme of things, but haven't you guys got any principles? Do you just thrown your money at anything? A lot of you seem to be saying the content is irrelevant, you're paying up simply because it's not much money and you want to "support" PD. You already did that paying for the game itself, making PD plenty of money.

The cost of other DLC in other games is also irrelevant. If you think they're overpriced, don't buy them either. But don't use those more expensive prices to justify the cost of the GT5 DLC.

You must be real fun at parties. :rolleyes:

I buy things I like, GT5 I like, so therefore I will buy the DLC for GT5. I'm offended that you assume anyone buying the dlc spend their money freely and unwisely. PD can charge me $30 and I'll still buy it, because there's something that you don't put a price on. This is really one of the few times that I've bought extra DLC for as well, so it's nothing to me.
 
Don't get too bothered if people buy the DLC. It's their money, let them spend it how they want.

I'm not, I'm annoyed at how they're trying to justify the cost to other people and bashing them because they don't agree with said costs.

You must be real fun at parties. :rolleyes:

I buy things I like, GT5 I like, so therefore I will buy the DLC for GT5. I'm offended that you assume anyone buying the dlc spend their money freely and unwisely. PD can charge me $30 and I'll still buy it, because there's something that you don't put a price on. This is really one of the few times that I've bought extra DLC for as well, so it's nothing to me.

Yeah because this is the sort of thing I sit down and discuss at parties. I'm on a GT5 message board on the internet, just like you are, so shock horror I might talk about it.

As for what you've just said, you're just confirming that you are one of the sheep that will buy anything PD give them. Why don't you put a price on GT5 DLC? Is it some sort of mecca to you, something that doesn't warrant comparisons to real life?

Tell me, just where would you draw the line? If the next DLC pack offers you 500 new paints and 100 new overalls for $30 will you pay for that, just because it's GT5?
 
We all draw a line in a different place. I'm only interested in the track pack and wouldn't pay any more than they're asking for it.

Just don't be surprised or amazed if someone draws a line in a different place to you.
 
I'm not, I'm annoyed at how they're trying to justify the cost to other people and bashing them because they don't agree with said costs.



Yeah because this is the sort of thing I sit down and discuss at parties. I'm on a GT5 message board on the internet, just like you are, so shock horror I might talk about it.

As for what you've just said, you're just confirming that you are one of the sheep that will buy anything PD give them. Why don't you put a price on GT5 DLC? Is it some sort of mecca to you, something that doesn't warrant comparisons to real life?

Tell me, just where would you draw the line? If the next DLC pack offers you 500 new paints and 100 new overalls for $30 will you pay for that, just because it's GT5?

Why Buy GT5? GT1 is still a driving simulator, by that logic, we should all be happy to play Gt1 forever and never buy anything more than that.

$12 is a good price, I would have given out the dlc for free since that would obviously make everyone happy, you too, hopefully. :rolleyes:
 
Why Buy GT5? GT1 is still a driving simulator, by that logic, we should all be happy to play Gt1 forever and never buy anything more than that.

$12 is a good price, I would have given out the dlc for free since that would obviously make everyone happy, you too, hopefully. :rolleyes:

No, that doesn't make sense. GT5 is obviously worth the cost over GT1 because it's a full, brand new game with many, many improvements.

I've already said that I think the track pack DLC is reasonably priced, it's a brand new very popular real world track that would have taken a lot of time and money for PD to build for $4. Very reasonable, and I've no issues with it. I don't think I've seen anyone that does.

My issue is with the car/paint/outfits part, which is an additional $8 if you buy the full pack over the track pack. However, I don't feel that the content is worth $8 because none of it is brand new, it's content already in the game slightly rehashed. So the fact it's "only" $8 or the cost of two coffee's is irrelevent to me, it's still too much money for what it is.
 
SimonK
No, that doesn't make sense. GT5 is obviously worth the cost over GT1 because it's a full, brand new game with many, many improvements.

I've already said that I think the track pack DLC is reasonably priced, it's a brand new very popular real world track that would have taken a lot of time and money for PD to build for $4. Very reasonable, and I've no issues with it. I don't think I've seen anyone that does.

My issue is with the car/paint/outfits part, which is an additional $8 if you buy the full pack over the track pack. However, I don't feel that the content is worth $8 because none of it is brand new, it's content already in the game slightly rehashed. So the fact it's "only" $8 or the cost of two coffee's is irrelevent to me, it's still too much money for what it is.

Thats the game of life bro,everyone cant be happy. I could care less about helmets and such but im going to buy the whole lot cause that's the best value. Damn I piss away money every month on bull**** bills. Yeah 80 a month for a cell phone really makes sense. I bet you buy the whole pack too
 
A lot of you seem to be saying the content is irrelevant, you're paying up simply because it's not much money and you want to "support" PD. You already did that paying for the game itself, making PD plenty of money.

First of all, it is quite a common, shared opinion, among this forum, that PD deserve this money, because of how much commitment they are showing to make GT5 a much better game.

Secondly, making a racing simulator isn't exactly cheap. If Wikipedia is correct, it costed around $80 million dollars to create the first impression of GT5 (without the updates)- and even this price doesn't include the constant flow of updates they are streaming through to improve this game.

Thirdly, to emphasize how expensive it actually is, it is the "second most expensive game in history to be developed".

Lastly, the DLC isn't bad value for money. 15 cars, spa (a well know, highly wanted track) and a cool looking kart track to utilize the DLC karts for under a tenner is definitely worth it, in my opinion.

However, I don't feel that the content is worth $8 because none of it is brand new, it's content already in the game slightly rehashed.

If you're talking about the cars, you're probably ill-educated or morphing the facts to suit your arguments, because they're not "rehashed" at all. The performance, looks, and all the rest are all practically brand new.
 
So the fact it's "only" $8 or the cost of two coffee's is irrelevent to me, it's still too much money for what it is.

Others disagree. That doesn't make them Sheep.
 
Its got nothing to do with V.A.T as your not buying from sony in the U.K. Its the same with amazon.co.uk and play.com. You dont pay V.A.T with them either as your not buying from a company listed in the U.K. (jersey Islands), thats how they can sell goods cheaper.

Why the different prices from region to region? Probably because this is what sony reckons is a fair price in comparison with other DLC's released in your region while trying to charge the same price overall. Remember it wouldn't be fair to charge one country the same price (based on exchange rates) if the average wage is lower in that country compared to others.
 
Thats the game of life bro,everyone cant be happy. I could care less about helmets and such but im going to buy the whole lot cause that's the best value. Damn I piss away money every month on bull**** bills. Yeah 80 a month for a cell phone really makes sense. I bet you buy the whole pack too

I pay £25 for a cell phone contract and yes it does make sense, because it's subsidisnig the cost of my handset and I feel I get my moneys worth on calls/text/internet.

I guarantee you I will not be buying the whole pack.

If you're talking about the cars, you're probably ill-educated or morphing the facts to suit your arguments, because they're not "rehashed" at all. The performance, looks, and all the rest are all practically brand new.

I'm not ill-educated or morphing anything. If you can't see they used the current premium models of the cars and just added a basic paint job, a few aero parts and a few performance changes then I feel sorry for you and your wallet.
 
Jai
It is very cheap, considering how much we get.

I beg to differ sorry to say but for ease of argument lets round figures up.

GT5 as from the shop on a blu-ray when first released.
Price £30-£50
Cars 1000+
Paint Ive no idea how many but I hazard a guess at a few thousand
Somewhere between 20 and 30 tracks with 70 or so layouts plus pretty much unlimited with the course creator in essence.
No racing Outfits.

Spec II DLC
Price for sake of argument £10
Cars 15 and by the look of it rehashed cars already in the game.
Paint 100 nice but lets see how its implemented I don't like the thought I may have to buy over and over again.
Tracks 1 real world track way overdue might I add, And a kart track with 4 layouts wow its only 1 track really.
However many outfits but they don't really add all that much to the game.

Just my view on it but I will buy it because I don't want to miss out on Spa and I would like to see if the new cars are RM or PD cars or whatever they are.
 
I agree with SimonK, who was originally posting about the guys trying to justify the cost to those who don't think it is value for money. It's down to the individual to decide if it's worth it or not for themselves, and not to anyone on this site to tell them they're wrong.

I will almost certainly buy the track pack alone, and I find it hard to justify the other stuff for more money. If the other stuff cost less than the track pack, it might be easier for me to accept.

As for the difference in price per region, I accept that as a consequence of the complex and frankly often esoteric beast that is "economics". Amar's post is very interesting and the link goes some way to explain why these things can trade at a different rate to the "straight" currency exchange rate. Basically, value is very difficult to quantify across currencies and economic regions; my opinion is the UK prices seem reasonable by comparison anyway.
 
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