Special Black Used Cars

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Have you evere heard a real 787B? The most shocking thing is the speed with it revs up and down and how low and steady is the idle....it's like WROAAAAAAbrrrrrrWROAAAAAAbrrrrrrr
 
No doubt one of PD’s alternative colour schemes. See BMW below. Incidentally, looking at the GT4 instruction manual, you will see a picture of the alternative colour scheme for the Judd Pescarolo. P 29

Further, the instruction booklet contains an interesting pre-race image of group of cars. p.11

It includes:

Blue and yellow coloured Ford GT ‘05
White Red and Green coloured Ford GT ‘05
Blue Dodge Viper GTS/R ‘00
White Red and Black coloured W12 Nardo ‘01
Red Pagani Zonda C12s 7.3 ‘02

I’m off to unlock alternative colours and racing numbers…

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I believe, the black 787b is a test car, for mazda, I was watching this special about it on Speed channel a while ago, and everytime they were testing they were black.
 
Samberto
I’m off to unlock alternative colours and racing numbers…

cool, i wonder how many different ones there are 💡 so youd do the same race that you won the first car on to get different version?
 
F310B
That has won Le Mans more times than your precious TS020.
That's right. The only Japanese manufacturer to win the top class and overall.

Also Honda also has a win in GT2 class with a NSX Turbo in 95 1st in class 8th overall.
 
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dont mean to be a nitpicker, but reread what you wrote before. "heat isnt really an issue with brakes like that." (reference to carbon brakes)

this statement is false. they are constantly figuring out the best mechanical advantage and best aero package. sometimes they need compromise the two factors. but this still does not deter from the fact that carbon brakes need cooling.

i just dont want you to mislead people into thinking that carbon brakes is a silver bullet solution in the issue of brakes.
Well, I think you totally missed my second post when I replied to your statement about carbon brakes needing cooling and duct work. Here..........
JNasty4G63
Right, but as I was saying, I believe they probably wanted more aero over more cooling. Heat is ALWAYS an issue with race cars. Be it in the engine, tires, brakes, trans, diffs, whatever. Heat is bad. But, if they had the choice to either run covers on the wheels for more aero, or open it up for cooling, I think thats why they chose aero. And, since brake disc and pad swaps at LeMans in the pits is a common thing, I think that makes it an even easier choice.
I understand that carbon brakes aren't perfect, and yes, they can overheat (very spectacularly, I must say, also). But, as you can see in my second post, I think it was more of a choice between wanting a highly aero-efficient package, or giving the brakes a bit more flow. At a track like La Sarthe, where speed is a huge factor, I believe the speed and aero would be a higher benefit. And, like I also said in that post, with brake changes a common thing in the pits at the 24HR race, cooking the brakes a bit faster than usual doesn't hurt you as much.
Buck-O
First, the 787-B was in an era BEFORE carbod disks. It would have been using a ceramic disk, with carbon metalic pads. WHich generate EXTREME amounts of heat. Far more then carbon brakes at present do.
Not true. Carbon discs have been used in racing since the mid-late 80's. They've been used in the aerospace industry since the '70s. Brembo even talks about this on their website. Interestinly, some of the first uses of carbon discs were used in drag cars in mid 80's. Used mainly for weight savings, but the use was there. And, to quote that R&T article from that link earlier.........
R&T
Except for an additional sticker recalling its participation in the 1999 Goodwood Festival of Speed, this 787B is still exactly as it was when it won at Le Mans 10 years ago......The highly efficient carbon-disc brakes are by Brembo.....
My position still stands. The 787B, as most cars racing the 24HR race, are very high-tech, and highly advanced. I'm sure in 1991 they would have had them. And, as you said, I'm also sure the vanes on the disc is to help get heat out. But, the reason for it being flat on top is to help the air more cleanly move over the wheel. If the wheel isn't covered, and the rim dips in from the plane of the bodywork, it could disrupt the air a bit more than they want. Like I said earlier, I'm sure its just a trade-off. Run the discs for a better aero package on high speed tracks, or open them up and cool the brakes more on lower speed tracks.

Hilg
 
In response to Post #17 by PunkRock, I don't know why you'd get a Castrol machine with white with red/blue accents rather than the traditional white with red/green accents. Or also when you won a certain race or race series in GT1, you get this Castrol Supra that's black with red/green accents. It's tradition to me, but yeah.

The Mazda 787B is two things- fast and loud. The acceleration is sensational, but kind of want to listen to something else because it seemed to be too raspy for an engine sound. This black machine is the test car as our former GTP member Darin said. It should still be quite fun to race.

NOTE: Thanks to a screwy computer, I tried to get this in as soon as I could, but this is really days old as I haven't really seen any other replies since my last visit.

By the way, haven't seen you in a while, Samberto, sir. Oh, and while I'm a fan of the Toyota GT-One, if it hadn't been for Johnny Herbert and the Mazda 787B, Japan would have, uh... NO Japanese manufactuers winning the Le Mans enduro. And if the beautiful RX-792P didn't keep having turbo fire problems, Mazda would have gone two straight granted that there were great drivers behind the wheel.
 
Samberto
I’m off to unlock alternative colours and racing numbers
Oh? Does that eman you can change decals and racing number in for any car you have unlocked it on in Simulation Mode?
 
Sorry but you are wrong, there is one Japanese manufacturers who win Le Mans and it's Mazda with the 787B car with this particular and great rotative motor, the first one to be used in competition in Le Mans, you can recognize the car in the straigth line without see it, by her engine.

http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/787B/index.html#ROA

I was there when the Mazda won, cuz i am born in this city and not miss one race every year, until i moved overseas.

So for sure, the Mazda 787B won, unfortunately my favorite car Nissan R392 not win and finish second.

JohnBM01
In response to Post #17 by PunkRock, I don't know why you'd get a Castrol machine with white with red/blue accents rather than the traditional white with red/green accents. Or also when you won a certain race or race series in GT1, you get this Castrol Supra that's black with red/green accents. It's tradition to me, but yeah.

The Mazda 787B is two things- fast and loud. The acceleration is sensational, but kind of want to listen to something else because it seemed to be too raspy for an engine sound. This black machine is the test car as our former GTP member Darin said. It should still be quite fun to race.

NOTE: Thanks to a screwy computer, I tried to get this in as soon as I could, but this is really days old as I haven't really seen any other replies since my last visit.

By the way, haven't seen you in a while, Samberto, sir. Oh, and while I'm a fan of the Toyota GT-One, if it hadn't been for Johnny Herbert and the Mazda 787B, Japan would have, uh... NO Japanese manufactuers winning the Le Mans enduro. And if the beautiful RX-792P didn't keep having turbo fire problems, Mazda would have gone two straight granted that there were great drivers behind the wheel.
 
legacybspec
not sure how reliable the source is, but they say on the 696th day, for a period of one week you can buy at the used dealer:

early??'s
?Mazda????? ’??
??????,???,??????
?Nissan?????? ’??
??????,???,??????
late??'s
?Nissan???????? ’??
??????,??0,000???
?Toyota?????????????? ’??
??????,???,??????

All in black color
Anyone confirm this?
Has anyone checked on this yet?
 
John Player Special? I'm not a player, I'm a mack! Okay, back on topic...

The 787B is pretty quick for a car with only 5 gears (I think I reached six once, but it's been so long since I've been indulged into GT3). I think if you want top speed from this thing, you're going to have to mess around with the final gear. Test Car or not, a race car is a race car. I think GT has come to a sense that anything commercially-available or conceptual with four wheels and an engine can be raced competitvely. Say what you will about this, but it's rather interesting to see this Test Car in the game.
 
Samberto
No doubt one of PD’s alternative colour schemes. See BMW below. Incidentally, looking at the GT4 instruction manual, you will see a picture of the alternative colour scheme for the Judd Pescarolo. P 29

Further, the instruction booklet contains an interesting pre-race image of group of cars. p.11

It includes:

Blue and yellow coloured Ford GT ‘05
White Red and Green coloured Ford GT ‘05
Blue Dodge Viper GTS/R ‘00
White Red and Black coloured W12 Nardo ‘01
Red Pagani Zonda C12s 7.3 ‘02

I’m off to unlock alternative colours and racing numbers…

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where have you heard about these alternate colour schemes? post pictures if you have any...
 
legacybspec
not sure how reliable the source is, but they say on the 696th day, for a period of one week you can buy at the used dealer:

early90's
 Mazda 787B ’91
   122,499,900Cr.
 Nissan R92CP ’92
   122,499,900Cr.

late90's
 Nissan R390GT1 ’98
   225,000,000Cr.
 Toyota GT-ONE(TS202) ’99
   292,499,900Cr.

All in black color
Anyone confirm this?
I can confirm it.
They all look nice, but i can´t see the reason for them being in the game, except for looking really cool.;)
 
I can also confirm this. It does start on day 696 and you have one week to buy all four cars. Make sure you have plenty of credits when the time comes.
 
Incidentally here is a save of the day in question.
Be sure you´re on the japanese version and you have the appropriate device to move files from the computer to the PS2.

Have fun! :D
 
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