Special/Ultimate Parts

Stroke Up vs. Stroke Up S, NSX Type R '02
 

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So after a long while of sitting on this idea, I came up with a mockup menu concept of what a rewarding way to earn rare parts would be.

Introducing... the TUNING CAR TOURNAMENT!

The Tuning Car Tournament is a multiple-race championship consisting of intense racing against opponents that are scaled to your car's PP, featuring grid starts, GT7's fastest AI (five chillies!) and even co-op multiplayer, meaning that for the first time in GT history, online players and AI can race together! The only condition for entry is that your car must have at least one unlockable rare part.

Below is my menu concept. (Just pretend titanium conrods are at 11 wins, I forgot that one. :P)​
 

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Won the high lift camshaft S for the NSX Type r '02. Fully tuned before was 594hp. With high lift camshaft S, 636hp. 42hp power increase.
Good lord, I'm starting to think every car in this game has an S camshaft available. And the NSX is becoming one of the most underrated cars in the game. Stroke Up S + Camshaft S + Titanium Conrods and you're looking at, like, 700hp? Keep in mind the NSX never went over 500 in the old games.
 
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Good lord, I'm starting to think every car in this game has a S camshaft available. And the NSX is becoming one of the most underrated cars in the game. Stroke Up S + Camshaft S + Titanium Conrods and you're looking at, like, 700hp? Keep in mind the NSX never went over 500 in the old games.

First time in gran turismo ever that we could turbocharge the nsx i think thats a nice add, i think that the nsxr 05 maxed out around 480 hp in gt6 if i was not mistaken
 
First time in gran turismo ever that we could turbocharge the nsx i think thats a nice add, i think that the nsxr 05 maxed out around 480 hp in gt6 if i was not mistaken
Yeah, I'm honestly surprised that PD added the option to turbo the NSX. If only they could do the same for so many other cars that need it...
 
Has anyone received a special part for the C6 Corvette? If so, how much hp is it when fully tuned? Would love to own it..
I wonder, because it's genuinely the most common car in any top speed/drag lobby, and I feel like an S part would give people a massive edge against the rest of them...
 
I wonder, because it's genuinely the most common car in any top speed/drag lobby, and I feel like an S part would give people a massive edge against the rest of them...
This is exactly why i‘am asking. Theres someone always running the zr1 c6 in lobbys and i cant keep up because this guy keeps pulling and i‘am pretty sure it‘s a special part, which i guess is the titanium rods or the carbon shaft. I think its pretty unfair to keep running and calling it out as it would be „pure suspension and gear tuning“.. i know how to tune gears and suspension for 1/4 mile lol and that is not the problem..
 
This is exactly why i‘am asking. Theres someone always running the zr1 c6 in lobbys and i cant keep up because this guy keeps pulling and i‘am pretty sure it‘s a special part, which i guess is the titanium rods or the carbon shaft. I think its pretty unfair to keep running and calling it out as it would be „pure suspension and gear tuning“.. i know how to tune gears and suspension for 1/4 mile lol and that is not the problem..
Just let the laptop grind till you stock up the parts you want. A little over 300m so far for me. Only 6 cars in the Legendary and used car lot left. Game has turned into a collector game, lol. Can't even be bothered to race anymore.
 
Just let the laptop grind till you stock up the parts you want. A little over 300m so far for me. Only 6 cars in the Legendary and used car lot left. Game has turned into a collector game, lol. Can't even be bothered to race anymore.
Except the only way to earn these parts right now is through the roulettes, which once you complete the menu books, can only be earned once per day, and only the 4-star and 5-star tickets can give you special parts, and it's a 1/10 chance to earn them, and a 1/8 chance that it's the part you want, and a 1/400 chance that it's the car you want...

What's that, like a 1/32000 chance you earn a specific part for the car you want it for?
 
I really hope every road car in the game has the option for s parts, but i would think most are, maybe not all added yet, pd did confirm that they are adding engine parts each month, but its really difficult to obtain them,
I get the feeling that on top of the engine swaps that get added each update, PD are adding S parts for more cars as well. Which is all good and well in theory, but in practice... well, that's been discussed enough, hasn't it?
 
Except the only way to earn these parts right now is through the roulettes, which once you complete the menu books, can only be earned once per day, and only the 4-star and 5-star tickets can give you special parts, and it's a 1/10 chance to earn them, and a 1/8 chance that it's the part you want, and a 1/400 chance that it's the car you want...

What's that, like a 1/32000 chance you earn a specific part for the car you want it for?
Finished everything in early March. I have only received special parts from the marathon tickets. Didn't receive any in the cafe. Nothing left to do but grind for cars/tuning money and wait for my group of friends to sort their garage. Online is garbage currently.
 
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I get the feeling that on top of the engine swaps that get added each update, PD are adding S parts for more cars as well. Which is all good and well in theory, but in practice... well, that's been discussed enough, hasn't it?

Yes sorry😁 have be talking about it a lot, thats how much i want those special parts, and i keep hooping to get some, those parts will give so much more pontential, specialy when you have cars that have both Bore up s stroke up s, camshaft s and titanium connecting rods and pistons, but we proably never know what effect that will have for a long time, hopefully its add another 100 hp, and that is what keepa my dreaming, Ferrari f50 have all normal parts available except turbo and supercharger, so that one is absolutly one of cars i really want to boost up more, but i have not seen any special parts for it yet reported,
 
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Good lord, I'm starting to think every car in this game has an S camshaft available. And the NSX is becoming one of the most underrated cars in the game. Stroke Up S + Camshaft S + Titanium Conrods and you're looking at, like, 700hp? Keep in mind the NSX never went over 500 in the old games.
I did the math, that's 696hp, it's already a beast now with the highlift camshaft S. The engine is more aggressive and higher rpms over the standard part
 
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It has just come to my attention, regarding the most recent 1.16 update. You will see the first thing in the list of changes is "Fixed an issue wherein 'High compression pistons' and 'turbochargers' would both be installed at the same time if certain inputs were performed.

This has nerfed a few cars, the NSX type R being one of them. Before the update, the NSX was sitting at 636hp with the 'High Lift Camshaft S'. Now it is at 612hp. I have noticed the 350z/370z, viper srt10/gts, corvette C7 and I presume many others have also had a 20-30hp nerf.
 
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It has just come to my attention, regarding the most recent 1.16 update. You will see the first thing in the list of changes is "Fixed an issue wherein 'High compression pistons' and 'turbochargers' would both be installed at the same time if certain inputs were performed.

This has nerfed a few cars, the NSX type R being one of them. Before the update, the NSX was sitting at 636hp with the 'High Lift Camshaft S'. Now it is at 612hp. I have noticed the 350z/370z, viper srt10/gts, corvette C7 and I presume many others have also had a 20-30hp nerf.
Yeah, I noticed that. That really sucks...
 
To me it seems like it was a bug, i don’t think it was supose to work with both turbo/supercharger with high compression pistons
 
To me it seems like it was a bug, i don’t think it was supose to work with both turbo/supercharger with high compression pistons
I know, but to be honest I don't even see why you can't fit those two parts together anyway. It's not like the high compression pistons give enough of a power boost to warrant using them over forced induction...

If there's a realism aspect I'm not aware of then please do explain.
 
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I know, but to be honest I don't even see why you can't fit those two parts together anyway. It's not like the high compression pistons give enough of a power boost to warrant using them over forced induction...

If there's a realism aspect I'm not aware of then please do explain.

Not an expert on that field but from what i heard in real life You can’t really have high compression pistons with a turbo, i am not saying its good to have less hp through,
Seems like na cars that have option for turbo/sc will be effected by this, one car i was thinking about that would be nice to have a high lift camshaft s would be the Ferrari f12 berlinetta, i think that would boost a lot of power in that car, would not be supriced if we can push it over 1000 hp with all special parts, i suspect that it have the option maybe not just added yet, we know for a fact that it has titanium connecting rods and pistons at minimum



Edit seems like you can have high compression pistons and turbo in some cases in real life, but can cause issues
 
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I know, but to be honest I don't even see why you can't fit those two parts together anyway. It's not like the high compression pistons give enough of a power boost to warrant using them over forced induction...

If there's a realism aspect I'm not aware of then please do explain.

Usually IRL to run a huge turbo you’d want to lower compression. If cylinder pressure is too high you’ll create higher temperatures inside the cylinder and then run into problems with detonation.

On my current build (the car in my profile pic) I’ve just done a full forged engine build, which included a slight reduction in compression with aftermarket pistons and head gasket. This means - in the simplest terms - I can now turn the boost up.

Generally speaking, high compression engines are almost always naturally aspirated. Think Honda VTEC, Ferrari V12s and so on.
 
Usually IRL to run a huge turbo you’d want to lower compression. If cylinder pressure is too high you’ll create higher temperatures inside the cylinder and then run into problems with detonation.

On my current build (the car in my profile pic) I’ve just done a full forged engine build, which included a slight reduction in compression with aftermarket pistons and head gasket. This means - in the simplest terms - I can now turn the boost up.

Generally speaking, high compression engines are almost always naturally aspirated. Think Honda VTEC, Ferrari V12s and so on.
Ah, that makes more sense. Still, I feel like increasing the compression in GT7 should grant a larger power boost to justify keeping the car naturally aspirated instead of jamming in a turbo or supercharger.
 
Ah, that makes more sense. Still, I feel like increasing the compression in GT7 should grant a larger power boost to justify keeping the car naturally aspirated instead of jamming in a turbo or supercharger.

Again, realistically, there’s no better way of making extra power than forced induction. A naturally aspirated engine - even with the highest possible compression, trick valve train, cams, ITBs - will have a ceiling in terms of peak output. It’s just physics.

A high compression engine is arguably much more characterful than a forced induction engine. They’re snappy, revvy, and encourage being driven hard to the limiter. And in terms of sound, a lot of the greatest sounding engines in history were high-revving, high compression naturally aspirated. GT3 RS, Mclaren F1, LFA, and so on. What a naturally aspirated engine can’t achieve in terms of raw power, it more than makes up for in sheer character.

If you consider the power outputs of highly tuned forced induction cars, it’s clear they have the advantage over naturally aspirated.

A good example of this is the 2 litre naturally aspirated engine in the Honda Civic EP3 Type R. It’s a work of art. Dripping with technology that you’d usually find in a race car. In its time, 197BHP from a naturally aspirated 2 litre was quite a thing.

Now compare that to what can be achieved with forced induction. Sticking to factory production cars, the first thing that comes to mind is the Evo FQ400. That’s a factory 2 litre, with 400+BHP, double the horsepower of the EP3. Take that further, into the realms of tuning with bigger turbos, and it’s pretty commonplace to hear of 2 litre cars running 400-600BHP (mine is one of them). And then you’ve got the drag teams pushing the boundaries of tuning with cars like the Red Demon - a 2 litre Mitsubishi Eclipse with 2000BHP 4G63 engine. Yes, two thousand. And there are plenty more 2 litre cars in that particular scene running well north of 1000 wheel horsepower.

All that said, high compression naturally aspirated engines will always do things that turbo monsters can’t. They’re the most pure form of engine. They absolutely sing when they’re on cam. But they will never be capable of the raw power that forced induction can achieve.
 
I just realised... PD caught us hook, line and sinker. The fact we're still talking about these parts months after the game released is exactly what they wanted out of this system, and if they were purchasable normally this entire thread wouldn't exist. Good job, Kaz. :lol:
 
Yep, well played PD. I love secrets in games in general, I remember trying to find the last few in OG Doom and Doom2, some of this pre-internet where you couldn't always just google it and have 10 youtube walkthroughs.

The thought of firing up "old" GT7 in a few years and getting a part I've never had before for a favourite car will be nice.

At the risk of spoiling the surprises I've just said I like... I wonder if the guy who got car lists from the game data has also got a copy of the parts file...
 
Yep, well played PD. I love secrets in games in general, I remember trying to find the last few in OG Doom and Doom2, some of this pre-internet where you couldn't always just google it and have 10 youtube walkthroughs.

The thought of firing up "old" GT7 in a few years and getting a part I've never had before for a favourite car will be nice.

At the risk of spoiling the surprises I've just said I like... I wonder if the guy who got car lists from the game data has also got a copy of the parts file...
I sure hope he does, along with the stat changes that the parts give, and what cars each part is compatible for...
It would ruin the whole fun of finding these parts, but it would also put my mind at ease, so it's a tough choice.
 
Little off topic, but another game with secret parts and even cars, was sega gt online, their is guy that made all secret cars and parts available becouse some of them was online only parts and cars, and that online is no longer available, i have been waiting years for that, i will go back and play in the wait for some gt7 content, but will keep playing gt7 to farm the roulettes,i really want those exclusive parts saving until i have about 14 tickets, have 6 right now 3 of them being 4 star, never got any 5 star, i also love those secret parts
 
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