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GTracerEHTeam
The car does understeer quite a lot, but I've pulled an LSD tune from my R32 race car and it does the job quite nicely. I haven't tested a lot but that much of it seemed to do wonders so I'll post it here for everyone to try.

10 25
40 42
5 5

25:75
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If I get the time, I'll test that. Thanks! :)
If not in time for this race, I'll still try it out afterwards. 👍


I still want to know all your lap times though. Just so I know whether I need to start cancelling real life jobs to get myself enough time to find a way to stay near the pack. :confused:

My concern is that by moving all the torque to the back to please my simple mind, I may be negating some benefits that 4WD has to offer (exit speed maybe?). Pushing the torque distribution back towards the front a bit & finding other ways to get the rotation I seek would probably take more time than is available to me. :confused:
 
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If I get the time, I'll test that. Thanks! :)
If not in time for this race, I'll still try it out afterwards. 👍


I still want to know all your lap times though. Just so I know whether I need to start cancelling real life jobs to get myself enough time to find a way to stay near the pack. :confused:

My concern is that by moving all the torque to the back to please my simple mind, I may be negating some benefits that 4WD has to offer (exit speed maybe?). Pushing the torque distribution back towards the front a bit & finding other ways to get the rotation I seek would probably take more time than is available to me. :confused:
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I find that as much as keeping power to the front can help, there's only so much work the front wheels can do before they start slipping. This has been a nice balance for me at least, though it can lend itself to a bit of oversteer depending on the suspension setup. I just haven't been able to figure out 4WD tunes so when I literally stumbled into this and found it worked, I was amazed.
 
62/65
15/16

8/10
8/15
8/10
15:85

260/350

it is a decent setup, at least the turn-in is pretty nimble.

but i am not 100% satisfy with it.

maybe alcohol and tiredness is affecting my driving, the best i can do is some 1:57.low

targeting 1:56.mid-low... trying.....
 
I'll definitely give those a try either before or after the race depending on free time, thanks to you both. 👍
As my time is similar to Alex's at the moment; I'm sure that even after he improves, the other humans shouldn't be too far ahead of me (hopefully), so I'll have people to race with. This means I won't worry too much about getting round to testing everything with only a few days to go.
:cheers:
 
S_Bridge
I'll definitely give those a try either before or after the race depending on free time, thanks to you both. 👍
As my time is similar to Alex's at the moment; I'm sure that even after he improves, the other humans shouldn't be too far ahead of me (hopefully), so I'll have people to race with. This means I won't worry too much about getting round to testing everything with only a few days to go.
:cheers:
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do some test on it and see how it goes, give us some feedback too :)
 
i only did about 15 laps of testing with the GT300 last night and i was able to get to break into the 1:56 but barely like 156.98(Full Downforce) or so still trying to rip some oversteer into it i think im close to doing it, and i gotta work on the brake settings still having problems with it

now the s2000 whole other story that i don't remember

who thinks the deltawing got Screwed
 
alcheng
do some test on it and see how it goes, give us some feedback too :)
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I only had time earlier to try both setups quickly so I did it in the Seasonal Race (just 2 laps each).
It wasn't enough laps to be conclusive & the traffic is a possible difference maker too but I did my fastest time with mine, 2nd fastest with yours & 3rd fastest with @GTracerEHTeam's.
All 3 felt good.

Mine is something like 8-10 / 12-15 / 15-25 (from memory, could be wrong) & 10:90 distribution. It still isn't finalised though.
With mine I did a 1:55.8 on lap 2 with no traffic but the conditions could be different from how they are in a lobby.

I planned to test more in a lobby tonight after work but I'm going out drinking instead now.

:cheers::cheers::cheers:
 
I won't be able to do this main event, due to my new job giving me like 20 hours a week, some on this Thursday. Good luck to you all! 👍

On a similar note, I want to talk about my lap times on a DFGT vs a DS3. So, a while back, when I was still running STTR, one of my events was an F1 enduro event. It initially was going to have the 97T vs the FGT, so I decided to compare lap times on Suzuka 2014

These lap times are as follows:
FGT: 1:36.188
97T: 1:37.172
(About a second apart)

I just ran identical tunes on both of them on the same track and conditions.

With a DFGT:
FGT: 1:34.862
97T: 1:35.502

So I dropped two seconds on both cars, and narrowed down the gap between them by .2 seconds
It seems like I have more potential on this wheel than I do with an analog stick and pressure sensitive buttons.
 
Obelisk
I won't be able to do this main event, due to my new job giving me like 20 hours a week, some on this Thursday. Good luck to you all! 👍

On a similar note, I want to talk about my lap times on a DFGT vs a DS3. So, a while back, when I was still running STTR, one of my events was an F1 enduro event. It initially was going to have the 97T vs the FGT, so I decided to compare lap times on Suzuka 2014

These lap times are as follows:
FGT: 1:36.188
97T: 1:37.172
(About a second apart)

I just ran identical tunes on both of them on the same track and conditions.

With a DFGT:
FGT: 1:34.862
97T: 1:35.502

So I dropped two seconds on both cars, and narrowed down the gap between them by .2 seconds
It seems like I have more potential on this wheel than I do with an analog stick and pressure sensitive buttons.
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That's good to hear, I don't say it much, but I have always maintained that there is at least 2 seconds difference in favour of a wheel to a controller. I'm not the only one that says it either, lots of other people do too. Remember, that's just the first test of it, the better you get with the finer comtrol of a wheel the bigger that gap will become, so keep it up. 👍
 
Obelisk
I won't be able to do this main event, due to my new job giving me like 20 hours a week, some on this Thursday. Good luck to you all! 👍

On a similar note, I want to talk about my lap times on a DFGT vs a DS3. So, a while back, when I was still running STTR, one of my events was an F1 enduro event. It initially was going to have the 97T vs the FGT, so I decided to compare lap times on Suzuka 2014

These lap times are as follows:
FGT: 1:36.188
97T: 1:37.172
(About a second apart)

I just ran identical tunes on both of them on the same track and conditions.

With a DFGT:
FGT: 1:34.862
97T: 1:35.502

So I dropped two seconds on both cars, and narrowed down the gap between them by .2 seconds
It seems like I have more potential on this wheel than I do with an analog stick and pressure sensitive buttons.
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I found the wheel a lot faster too but don't use it.

When I tried using a wheel for a little while I didn't spend long enough on it to get used to it. I did find a few seconds worth of instant improvement in race cars though.

With the DS3 I had previously spent hours on the Ayrton Senna Lotus 97T event chasing gold for 100% game completion. One of the first things I did with the wheel was try this event & I golded it on lap 1.

Some cars will go through Eau Rouge at Spa flat out when using a wheel but not when using a DS3.

If I was to use the wheel I would also be able to learn to use manual transmission. As it is, I don't have spare buttons on the controller for shifting. In certain cars, this costs a lot of time.

I haven't touched the wheel in a long time though. I feel like I will at some point but day to day I enjoy playing the game with a controller.
As I said in a recent interview for the GTPSundayClas6 Series:
I prefer the console game feel rather than having more simulation. I often have the game loaded up for long periods but am coming & going & doing other things in between short sessions. If I was more immersed in the experience I would only play when I was willing to commit a large block of time to the game. I'd rather have the freedom to dip in for a lap or two, several times a day.
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It's as if the wheel took over & I'd rather stay more casual. At least for now.

Tl;dr
Yes, I think the wheel is faster too.
 
well... regardless it's a wheel or controller... choose whatever you enjoy to use and gives you better laptime. :cheers:



did some test tonight and tried out some other settings...

did some changes on the drivetrain, slight adjustment on the suspension, brakes, gear-ratio and aero...

found out late turn-in but turn the wheel a bit more than i thought does help...

result? 1:56.mid now....

i know those Aliens should be around 1:55.mid-low...

i am targeting to touch the 55s.... :dopey:
 
I also find the wheel faster. I never thought it would be, but my buddy has the whole seat/wheel set up, i ran a ZZII with wheel, then my normal controller. My times were i touch quicker with the wheel first time out. If we ever get the garage cleaned out, the next thing i want is the"whole set up"!

Tested the Subie last night. Used a mash up of the three set ups posted here. After 20ish laps, i got a 1:55.5 a couple times, but consistency issues kept me in the 1:55.5 to 1:56.5 range.
 

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