Stock car race comparison/challenge

[Smallhorses]

@ kart racer Thanks for the info, I can extract what we need from that.
Welcome to the Club 200 list.

In future, please post entries in this simple format:-

Car / Drivetrain / Power (HP) / Weight (kg) / WPR (kg/HP) / A-spec points.

e.g. (using your information)

Audi A4 Touring Car '04 (oil changed) / FR / 484HP (on garage screen) / 1080kg / 2.2kg/HP / 200 A-spec points.



@ CBR250RR you can change your units to display HP instead of kW. In the options menu from the garage screen, scroll down to the bottom. There's an icon for "Units" You can select your power units & distance units in there. 👍
If you set it to HP it'll avoid further confusion.

 

[bhawk776]

Endurance races: Nurburgring 4h

Car: Mazda RX-7 Type RZ (FD,J) '95 (used, no oil, S1 tires) / FR / 228hp / 1250kg / 5.4kg/hp / 200 A-spec points 👍 ​

Line-Up: Fiat Coupe Plus '00, Nissan Skyline GT-R Vspec II '00, Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi spec C '04, Ford Focus RS '02, Audi RS 4 '01

It was a much closer race then it should've been! At the end of lap 25, with the Subaru WRX just 22 seconds behind me at T-11, I spaced off and missed the pit entrance. My tires were shot and I knew that if I tried to complete another lap without changing my tires that I would not be able to fight off the Subaru. So I had no choice but to turn around and go back, luckily I realized my mistake before I reached the first right after the pit entrance. Just as I got turned around and into the pit lane the Subaru nailed me from behind. I knew I was able to run faster then the Subaru on the first, second, and fifth laps after pitting but on laps three and four he was able to gain about 15 seconds on me, so I knew that I had to run flawless laps to win.

Total time: 4:01'40.317

(Subaru Total time: 4:01'48.309, just 7.992 seconds behind)​

Best lap: 8'08.121 (lap 28)
Total laps: 29 (pitted after every 5 laps)

 

[Smallhorses]

Started on Supercar festival. An expensive one to do in 5 different cars!

Professional hall: Supercar Festival Race 2 - Fuji
Car: Dodge Viper SRT10 '03 / FR / 500HP / 1533kg / 3.1kg/HP / 184 A-spec points

*edit* Next one, tried to enter in a RUF CTR Yellow Bird after an oil change, but even though it says 493HP on the garage screen, its only 486HP on the selling screen, hence ineligible for a "stock" ride here. Damnit that means I have to buy 3 more expensive cars.

Professional hall: Supercar Festival Race 1 - Seoul
Car: Honda NSX-R Prototype LM Road Car '02 (minimum downforce) / MR / ?HP (553HP on garage screen) / 1230kg / ?HP/kg (2.2kg/HP using garage value) / 107 A-spec points

*edit* Figured another car I could win that's eligible for the Supercar Festival (although it'll give horribly low points) is the TVR Cerbera Speed 12. So having already got 3 used TVRs in the garage, I could buy 2 more for less than the price of most Supercars, and hence get a free one for winning Blackpool racers!
"Black Pool" racers in the game is a mistake on PD's part. It should be Blackpool, since that's the name of the town in England where they're made.

Blackpool racers Race 1 : Suzuka East
Car: TVR V8S '91 (Used, oil changed) / FR / 239HP / 1050kg / 4.4kg/HP / 200 A-spec points

Blackpool racers Race 2 : Special Stage Route 5
Car: TVR Cerbera Speed Six '97 (Used, no oil) / FR / 316HP / 1130kg / 3.6kg/HP / 146 A-spec points

Blackpool racers Race 3 : Laguna Seca
Car: TVR Griffith 500 '94 (Used, no oil) /FR / 308HP / 1060kg / 3.4kg/HP / 140 A-spec points

Blackpool racers Race 4 : Opera Paris
Car: TVR T350C '03 / FR / 350HP / 1187kg / 3.4kg/HP / 129 A-spec points

Blackpool racers Race 5 : Fuji 2005
Car: TVR Tamora '02 / FR / 345HP / 1060kg / 3.1kg/HP / 106 A-spec points

 

[LeadSlead#2]

this was by FAR and away the most satisfying racing I've done in a while...great races & I almost won the cup too...I can't believe I tried R3's on beginner course! I certainly would've won with R2's...maybe next time... -- I think I got the HP right....I had to move 1200 mi Tthe day after...I won't have my PS2 for at least 3 wks...very sad, I'll stop in though, hopefully I'll be able to give more entries soon...

Extreme hall: Dream Car Championship race 1 - Opera Paris
Car: WEDDSPORT CELICA / FR / 322HP / 1050KG / R3/R3 / 200 A-Spec Points

Extreme hall: Dream Car Championship race 3 - Deep Forest
Car: WEDDSPORT CELICA / FR / 322HP / 1050KG / R3/R3 / 200 A-Spec Points

Extreme hall: Dream Car Championship race 5 - Hong Kong
Car: WEDDSPORT CELICA / FR / 322HP / 1050KG / R3/R3 / 200 A-Spec Points

Extreme hall: Dream Car Championship race 9 - El Capitan
Car: WEDDSPORT CELICA / FR / 322HP / 1050KG / R3/R3 / 200 A-Spec Points

Extreme hall: Dream Car Championship race 10 - Cote D'Azur
Car: WEDDSPORT CELICA / FR / 322HP / 1050KG / R3/R3 / 200 A-Spec Points

 

[CBR250RR]

well i gave up on the motegi 8hr as a 200pt race and tried the Circuit De La Sarthe 2 -- 24hour Endurance Race....getting 200 points wasnt goin to be all that easy, in the end i found a 150point race which will put me on top of the list 4 this race anyway

AMG Mercedes CLK-GTR Race Car '98 (stock, R1/R1 tires, downforce @ 37/52) / MR / Power(no valuation screen figure, garage states 797hp, real figure around 750ish) / weight 1000kg / PWR : 1.25kg/hp (using garage stated value)/ 150 A-Spec points

i pitted every 8laps using 70units of fuel/stint lapping between 3min7 and 3min15

The field

Completed Laps - 451 finishing 9laps clear of the Mazda 787B

Sauber Mercedes C 9 Race Car - pitted every 7/8laps
Jaguar XJR-9 Race Car - pitted every 8laps
Mazda 787B Race Car - pitted every 9laps
Peugeot 905 race car - pitted every 9laps
Nissan R89C race car - pitted every 7/8laps

well this race was actually easier than i thought it would be, i was trapping @ 372kph down the straight, and 390kph with a draft, this seemed to be about 20-40kph quicker than the AI as i was making a good 7secs/lap down the straight, i lost this in the turns tho...so it took me almost 2hours to lap the lead car the 1st time, after that things settled down and i only managed to lap him 9more times, i didnt take to much notice of the other AI cars as the sauber/mazda seemed to be the most competition. The sauber was the fastest AI car but it pitted every 7/8 laps instead of the mazda's 9laps...over the 24hours this took its toll, and the mazda ended up coing 2nd. All in all a good race and another A-Spec enduro off the list..back to motegi 4 me..

 

[Smallhorses]

Thought I'd try something in a vehicle that's not got a mention on the list yet, but it soon became apparent that it wasn't going to be competetive against a 200pt lineup. Settled for something less, since I've laid out over 100,000Cr for this car and I'm getting short on game cash, so its time to unlock the GTWC and Extreme Hall to feed my need for cash to buy every vehicle available! Makes for an entertaing replay though, watching this luxury 4-door Euro-barge racing against a host of sleek mid-engined sports cars!

Professional hall: Supercar Festival Race 5 - Infineon
Car: Mercedes-Benz E 55 AMG '02 (oil changed) / FR / 493HP / 1910kg / 3.9kg/HP / 128 A-spec points

vs. 7th lineup after reset.

*edit* What a beauty to finish off the festival! Posted the replay over in the "Supercar Festival Problems" Thread for the benefit of someone who was struggling with this race combination. Curiously, my BMW M5 '05 lists 501HP in the selling screen in the garage, and 499HP on the purchasing screen in the Dealer. It also lists the weight in both as 1715kg, as opposed to the 1720kg that jdw had for his! Weird.

Professional hall: Supercar Festival Race 4 - Midfield
Car: BMW M5 '05 / FR / 501HP / 1715kg / 3.4kg/HP / 200 A-spec points!

 

[luftrofl]

Extreme hall: Premium Sports Lounge Race 3 - Hong Kong
Car: BMW M3 GTR '03 / FR / 374HP / 1350kg / 3.61kg/HP / 200 A-Spec points

Dunno if I got the HP right, seems different from the other M3 GTRs.

 

[Raghavan]

thx 4 the sig info...hopefully thats a bit better

any idea's on what i could use for the laguna race for 200pts? the ASL ARTA garaiya was close and i reckon the race can be won with something similar...a little less power but needs the same handling/braking power

WedsSport Toyota Celica should do it...

 

[Smallhorses]

WedsSport Toyota Celica should do it...

If you'd read another couple of posts below, you'll see that it's already been done, he used a Nissan RAZO Silvia JGTC.

 

[Smallhorses]

Dunno if I got the HP right, seems different from the other M3 GTRs.

Thanks luftrofl! You're the latest person to join CLUB 200! Look out for your name and submission added to the list after the weekend.

The difference in HP is probably because hispeed and jdw performed an oil change on their BMW M3 GTRs, to give 394HP, I'm guessing of course as I don't yet own the BMW M3 GTR to check this out!

*edit* I have this to add. This series has been driving me mad for a while now, since it's really hard to find a stock ride that'll hang with a field of 400 - 500HP tuner cars running R3 tyres! I needed gold in all 5 races & the championship at once as its the only thing stopping me getting the GTWC unlocked and then the excitement of Extreme Hall! After a many nights of fruitlessly going after high point races, I realised that even something that would be competetive at Apricot Hill would get crushed at Tokyo & Fuji. So I relented and went back to the garage to see what I could find. With 500+HP I wasn't expecting too many points from the Gran Turismo Skyline, but it comes with S3 tyres which leave it at a grip disadvantage. Against a suitably hard lineup it worked ok! The Mazda pushed really hard at Tokyo, and despite qualifying 1st for each race, none of the 5 events was won by more than 0.5s from either the RUF CTR2 or the Mazda Falken RX-7!

Tuning Car GP : Races 1 - 5
Car: Nissan Gran Turismo Skyline GT-R '01 / 4WD / 533HP / 1560kg / 2.9kg/HP / 107 A-spec points per race.

vs. RUF CTR2 '96, RUF RGT '00, Mazda BP Falken RX-7 (D1GP) '03, HPA Motorsports Stage II R32 '04, Spoon S2000 '00. About 5 or 6th lineup after reset, I think.

There is a lineup consisting of the 3 faster RUFs, the BTR, Yellow Bird & CTR2, the HPA and the RX-7 which would probably have given even better points, but it takes approximately 20 - 25 enter/exits to reach, so I didn't go back for it!

 

[bhawk776]

I've spent a few hours trying to find a line up that I was able to beat and keep to clean enough to submit. I had won several times with different line ups but they were just to dirty to submit but I finally found a line up that I could beat and able to submit. 👍

Extreme hall: Premium Sports Lounge race 1 - Cote D'Azur

Car: Lancia Stratos '73 / MR / 195hp / 980kg / 5.0kg/hp / 200 A-spec points

Results:
(6) Lancia Stratos '73 . . . . . . . . . . 7'50.668
(1) Mercedes CLK 55 AMG '00 . . . . . 7'57.423
(4) Aston Martin V8 Vantage ' 99 . . . 7'58.253
(3) BMW M3 GTR ' 03 . . . . . . . . . . . 7'59.404
(2) Aston Martin DB9 Coupe '03 . . . . 7'59.508
(5) Mercedes SL 600 (R129) '98 . . . . 8'06.137

 

[Uncle Harry]

I used a stock Honda Civic Type R (EK) 00 with 10km for a 200 point win in the Type R races. Track was Driving Park Motorland. Won by over 12 seconds, final result not known due to GT4 not recording times of slow AI. The AI Civics and Integras all pitted due to sliding out on the corner before the pits and then entering the pits, I lapped 2 cars at least.

Honda Manufactures Race: Type R race at - Driving Park Motorland.
Car: Civic Type R (EK) '98. / FF / 183hp / 1050kg / 5.73kg/hp / 200 A-spec points

Results:
1st: Civic Type R (EK) '98 8'44.618 fastest lap 51.033
2nd: Accord Euro-R '00 + 12 seconds
3rd: Integra Type R (DC2) '99
4th: Integra Type R (DC2) '95
5th: Civic Type R (EK) '98
6th: Integra Type R (DC2) '98.

 

[Smallhorses]

Thanks Uncle Harry! You're the latest person to join CLUB 200! Look out for your name and submission added to the list after the weekend.

That'll make 3 new entrants (maybe more!) for the next update if my memory serves me correctly!

 

[CBR250RR]

i still cant find a lineup/car for the motegi8hr race...any ideas? a 1989 Supra 2.5GT gave over 100pts IIRC, but im still looking for that 200pt race!

 

[Smallhorses]

I really struggled to find a high point race for Motegi 8hr, I believe route_66 was able to claim 197pts in the Nissan 240RS (S100).
Myself I was able to win for 168pts in the Shuichi Shigeno Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex, but it took around 30 - 40 enter/exits to find the right lineup!

In the meantime, it's approaching 8am here, I'm up early to listen to the Liverpool game, and I've been finding things to keep me awake while I'm listening, and this certainly worked, really hard race!

Japanese races: Japanese 90's Challenge race 3 - Twin Ring Motegi
Car: Mazda MX-5 Miata SR-Limited (J) '97 / FR / 130HP / 980kg / 7.5kg/HP / 200 A-spec points!

vs. (in finishing order 2nd-6th) Toyota MR2 GT-S '97, Mazda 323F '93, Nissan 240SX '96, Mitsubishi FTO GR '94, Honda CR-X del Sol SiR '92.

 

[FLK]

Endurance Hall: El Capitan 200 Miles / Aston Martin Vanquish '04 / FR / 436hp / 1835kg / 200 A-spec

 

[Smallhorses]

Thanks FLK! You're the latest person to join CLUB 200! Look out for your name and submission added to the list after the weekend.

I think we're up to around 25 members now! Keep the submissions coming!

 

[gregc]

Aaaargh! So close....

Well, I'd be joining club 200 now if only.....

Decided to ditch the Speedster cos I couldn't find a 200pt lineup, and have a bash in the BMW 120di. I won the race and got 200 points, but damned if I could get past the Golf clean. One for tomorrow, sober I think. Don't drink'n'drive folks....

 

[gregc]

And at last.....

Managed a clean race at Trial Mountain with the BMW, so my Club 200 entry....

BMW 120d '04 / FR / 161bhp (can't remember if I changed the oil - sorry)/ 1415kg / 8.79kg/hp 200 A-Spec points

Schwarzwald Liga A Race 1 Trial Mountain, against this field (finishing order, after me )

Audi TT Coupe 3.2 quattro '03
Audi S3 '02
VW Golf IV R32 '03
BMW Z4 '03
BMW M Coupe '98

For anyone interested, the S3 nearly killed this race for me - getting past it clean was a nightmare! Once I got past that the TT was pretty straightforward, and I had a healthy margin at the end. That little 120d is a nice drive

Next stop, El Capitan 200 with a DB9, I think....

 

[Smallhorses]

Thanks gregc! You're the latest person to join CLUB 200! Look out for your name and submission added to the list later this week. Told you that you could do it didn't I?!!! Congratulations!
And no, you didn't change the oil!
Last amendments to my list for this week going on now, and the list in post #1 should get updated soon!

Just done Camaro Cup in races in 3 different cars, the Camaro SS '00, the Camaro Z38 302 '69 and the Camaro SS 350 '69, all stock for not too many points, 16, 72 and 43 respectively , thinking that the Camaro prizecar would probably be an easy 200pt ride for the last Stars & Stripes race I've got to do at Seattle. Er, no. Damned thing is a concept and therefore not eligible!
Just spent over 120,000Cr, for 6,000Cr prizemoney and a lousy prizecar! !!!!
Total cash fund is down to under 300,000Cr!
Feel a 24hr session at the Nurb' coming on to rectify that, soon!

*edit* Always seems to be the way..... e-mail the file to hispeed, then do another 200 Point race, which won't appear on the list until the update after next! Oh well, there's a couple of entries for this already, I just used a different vehicle, vs. 2nd lineup after reset!

American Races: Stars and Stripes Race 2 - Seattle
Car: Lexus GS300 '00 / FR / 286HP / 1680kg / 5.9kg/HP / 200 A-spec points!

Still, at least this race recouped about a 1/4 of the money I spent on the car to enter it in! 10,000Cr prize for a ~44,000Cr outlay, and seeing as it's the last of the 3 races to fall for me, the Camaro LM Prizecar too!

 

[rapapampam]

First I would like to Thank ANK as it's through ANK I found this Beautiful Thread.

I completed 200pts On Grand Canyon Reverse with The Mitsubishi CZ3 Tarmac Stock against Mitsubishi Evo Super Rally Car 03 - My Admissions are;
230bhp
1200Kg
4WD
Valuation Screen does not list Power Or Torque Specs but , looking at the Power Sceen in the settings it configures to 29.00Kgf.m/5500rpm or thereabouts.

1st Lap 53'516 - 1'24.607 - 2'43.335
2nd Lap 50'843 - 1'22.131 - 2'42.282
3rd Lap 50'666 - 1'22.786 - 2'41.599
4th Lap 49'810 - 1'21.554 - 2'40.238
5th Lap 52'200 - 1'24.122 - 2'42.605

13'28.059

This car is eats Grand Canyons, when I first tried this car, I had Racing Intercool. Brakes and Racing Drivetrains and engine power was 244bhp against the Evo and 256bhp against the Impreza and collected 200pts , then speculation drawn up by The ANK drew me to this thread .

I had confidence that the Mitsubishi CZ3 would win at stock level. I kept tight lines in the corners and paid particular attention to certain bends that are good over/undertaking manouvers for the Evo/Impreza.

At the end of the long straight with jumps......the right - then left banking, he will try to undertake you there....so you have to close that gap as the CZ3 doesn't have the power of the Rally cars and if he gets through ...he's gone..you won't catch him.

He won't bash into you if you are directly in front of him as he will always slow down.

The key is to overtake him on the first lap at the Third Hairpin as he leaves the door wide open so you can slip through without penalty..

Mitsubishi CZ3 Tarmac - Boom Car

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AKA Dubitup

 

[hispeed]

Welcome rapapampam!

Good job. Was it the hard Gran Canyon race?

 

[rapapampam]

Welcome rapapampam!

Good job. Was it the hard Gran Canyon race?

Thank You Hispeed


Yes......Grand Canyon Reverse Hard

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AKA Dubitup

 

[Smallhorses]

Hi rapapampam! You're the next person who'll be added to the CLUB 200 list! Probably get the next update done in a couple of weeks. Keep the entries coming though!

I'd already done a race in this car so I was able to cut & paste it's stock details.
For future submissions could you post the car details all on one line as requested by hispeed in post #1. Helps us out a tonne!

 

[rapapampam]

Hi rapapampam! You're the next person who'll be added to the CLUB 200 list! Probably get the next update done in a couple of weeks. Keep the entries coming though!

I'd already done a race in this car so I was able to cut & paste it's stock details.
For future submissions could you post the car details all on one line as requested by hispeed in post #1. Helps us out a tonne!

As sweet as.

 

[Smallhorses]

Cleaning up some other events now, trying to use undriven cars in the garage.
Since there's no entry for this one yet, I'll get us started.

Japanese races: Japanese 70's Classics race 4 - Driving Park Motorland
Car: Honda 1300 Coupe 9 S '70 / FF / 108HP / 900kg / 8.3kg/HP / 85 A-spec points

*edit* This one too, much harder lineup gives better points, but I don't think I'd have beaten them in the Honda.

Japanese races: Japanese 70's Classics race 3 - Tsukuba
Car: Mitsubishi Lancer 1600 GSR '73 / FR / 108HP / 825kg / 7.6kg/HP / 93 A-spec points

vs. ~7th or 8th lineup after reset.
Mitsubishi GTO '70, Toyota Celica '70, Nissan Skyline '70, Nissan 240Z '71, Nissan Skyline '73.

 

[luftrofl]

Is it just me or do the Black race cars have somewhat different power levels than their colored counterparts?

(Mazda 787b and Nissan R390)

If so I think that each version of each car should be labeled as a different car. Just so somebody doesn't find it impossible to race in a car that's 100 HP less than it should be stock.

 

[ANK]

Is it just me or do the Black race cars have somewhat different power levels than their colored counterparts?

(Mazda 787b and Nissan R390)

If so I think that each version of each car should be labeled as a different car. Just so somebody doesn't find it impossible to race in a car that's 100 HP less than it should be stock.

There is a big difference in points between the normal models and the black models. I found the black Mazda 787b to be a great source of points.

 

[LeadSlead#2]

I think the difference is simply the same as a used car to a new car... keep in mind though, its a lot more HP, and they go with a %, so the number difference will be much more drastic

 

[SjefGielen]

OK, now this one's not a big A-Spec collector but I didn't see it in your list:

European Events: Euro Hot Hatch championship - All races:
Peugeut 205 Turbo 16 road version - Oil change - 200BHP - SM Tyres
Now the only thing I did with the car was change it's oil, lower the suspension and changed the camber angle, since the car came with a FC Suspension, I also ran the championship with default settings.

This car comes stock with a racing exhaust and fully customizable suspension.

I ran the championship twice, first for 83 A-Spec points, second try was 88.
There is however one car you can't beat with it (that is I came across one): the Renault Clio Sport V6.

I'm not sure if this one counts for a stock, please don't shoot me if it doesn't