Stock car race comparison/challenge

[Smallhorses]

New entry for me:

European Hall: Schwartzwald Liga B race 4 - High Speed Ring
Car: Mercedes SL 500 (R129) ' 98 (Used, oil changed) / FR / 301HP / 1800kg / 6.0kg/HP / 200 A-spec points!

vs. (starting order) Mercedes SL 600 (R129) '98, BMW M3 '04, Audi S4 '03, Mercedes SL 55 AMG (R230) '02, Mercedes SL 65 AMG (R230) '04

which is somewhere between 10 - 20 lineups after reset (lost count )

WRS standard clean race! 👍

 

[Austin343]

Smallhorses posting an incomplete entry? Just kidding, you were probably doing it from memory! Thanks for the video; it's always nice to see smooth and clean driving. 👍 Quite a contrast with mine, at least in terms of the smoothness!

Cannot get near him on the forward direction of George V Rally though, not sure what sort of superhuman skills Austin343 has to be able to pull that one off.

It is much harder than any of the other races with that car, but it is doable. If you have the transmission shortened to fit the track, you can keep on its tail, but you have to count on it making a mistake to actually pass, and then you have to be right behind to take advantage.

I have a new entry, too - not really original, but I realized I hadn't even done this event stock yet!

Beginners Hall: Sunday cup - All Races
Car: Toyota Prius G (J) '02 (Used, no oil change, S2 tires) / FF / 68HP/ 1220kg / 17.9kg/HP / 200 A-spec points

In all of these races, I needed a lineup with no MGs, and almost every lineup gave 200 points. Autumn Ring Mini and High Speed Ring were easy and clean, and Beginners Course was easy, too, but the simple fact of having to pass five idiot AI cars in four laps at such a tight course meant that I couldn't avoid having about three minuscule contacts. Motegi West, despite the ridiculous 7.5 second deficit you're handed at the starting line, wasn't too difficult, although I did need a lineup with a relatively slow lead car, the Mini Cooper, and only passed it in the last corner. It was the same story here as at Beginners Course in that I couldn't afford to dawdle behind the AI and make a totally clean pass every time, although again, all the contacts were minor. And at Clubman Stage Route 5, I did eventually manage a clean race, but only after some lineup searching to find one with basically all slow cars, and a leading Polo GTi.

 

[Smallhorses]

Having just watched that video again, there's some interesting sound pickups on there.
As I'm in the final bend of lap 1, the whistle heard is our kettle boiling as my wife was filling her hot-water bottle before going to bed.
As I enter the first bend of lap 2 there's a series of cracks. Sadly that was my knees & ankles as I crouched down ready to hit the L2 button to switch to front view after I passed the BMW!

I'll edit the specs in later, was gone midnight when I posted, and couldn't be bothered to go back downstairs and turn on PS2 again to see what they were. I'll edit them in properly in a bit but I'm just back from the gym and need to shower before preparing dinner.

*EDIT*

And another new entry!

European Hall: Schwartzwald Liga B race 1 - Nurburgring
Car: Audi S4 '03 / 4WD / 341HP / 1660kg / 4.9kg/HP / 200 A-spec points!

vs. 26th lineup after reset, Merc CLK55, Audi S4, Merc SL 55 AMG, Merc SL 65 AMG, Merc SL 600 (R230)

Almost completely clean, did my best to stay out of the way of the AI, and didn't make any blocking moves per se, just "happened" to be in the right place to be in their way down the long straight!

Another crappy quality video:

 

[Austin343]

Another nice video, Smallhorses. 👍 Out of curiosity, how often are your races 100% clean? Of course you make your best effort, and usually any contacts you have will be because the AI moved into you, but still, I'm curious how often you manage to completely avoid the rolling roadblocks.

I did the Deutsche Touring Car Meisterschaft in exactly the same way as the ones on the list for 200, and I thought I would post it because nobody had yet gotten Fuji for 200, but I thought I remembered someone sweeping the series. A quick search turned up this entry by mynameissport, the second part of which you apparently accidentally overlooked in your most recent update.

Also, a new entry for me. It's a duplicate of Kimi-R's, but he didn't specify S1 tires, which explains why you couldn't match his point total for these races, Smallhorses.

European Hall: British Lightweight Series - All Races
Car: Lotus Elise Type 72 '01 (S1 tires, no oil change) / MR / 122HP / 756kg / 6.2kg/HP / 109 A-spec points

vs. any lineup with no Spitfire. Easy, 100% clean races. It's a pity that the Marcos and prize Spitfire can't keep up in these races, because 200 stock points (or something near) is impossible otherwise.

 

[RVDNuT374]

This may be the best entry I ever posted in this thread. 👍

Endurance Hall: Circuit De Le Sarthe 1 24 Hour Enduro
Car: '98 AMG Mercedes CLK GTR Race Car (old oil, 3753.0 miles on odometer, R1 tires, downforce @ 38/50) / MR / 767 hp / 1000 kg / 1.3 kg/hp / 200 A-spec points!!! against the 2nd lineup after reset

If there was an excitement scale from 1-10 for races in GT4, this race would be at least a 15. For the first 63 laps, it was challenging to get far ahead of the Sauber and maintain any kind of lead due to his blinding speed on warm tires. On lap 63, I made it to the pits with the Sauber right on my rear bumper and changed to R2 tires from R1's to try and build up some sort of lead. Thankfully, I was able to build up quite a lead due to the Sauber being slower on cold tires than I was. On lap 100, I foolishly pitted after being out on the track for only 2 laps. It actually worked out well because I was able to switch to R3's from laps 107-112. I returned to R2's for laps 112-126 then switched back to R1 tires with a 1 min 30 sec lead. The switch slowed me down enough that over the next 135 laps, the Sauber got as close as 20 seconds behind me due to the pit cycling and our tires being in different states. On lap 261, with victory still unsure and the Sauber close behind, I made a daring call and switched to R3's until lap 270, where I switched back down to R1's. I ran the R1's until lap 378, where I switched to R2's again because I was unsure of how many laps I was going to run, and I didn't want to do something stupid like pit on the start of the last lap. The Sauber at this point was still less than 1 minute behind. 👍 After gaining nearly 32 seconds over the Sauber in just 12 laps, I made 1 final switch to R1 tires on lap 390 and ran them to the end of the race, which turned out to be 405 laps. After 24 hours of racing, the last seen interval over the Sauber was just 1 minute 9.616 seconds as he crossed the Mulsanne Checkpoint.

Facts Of Interest For The Race

I was slightly faster than the Sauber from Ford Chicane-L'Arche Chicane, but depending on the state of our tires, he would gain up to 4 sec on me in the run from T3-T6 (La Florandiere Chicane-Porsche Curves).

I pitted every 9 laps on R1 tires, every 6-7 laps on R2's, and every 4-5 laps on R3's. The Sauber and the other Group C cars pitted every 7 laps.

My fastest lap of the race was 3:22.363, run on R3 tires.

I started off the race with 767 hp and 3753.0 miles on the car, but dropped to 726 hp as I put on another 3432.8 miles.

 

[MadMax]

Hey,

here's something I cooked up yesterday and today:


Beginners Hall: 4WD Challenge race 1 - Grand Valley
Car: Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 ´85 (Used, no oil, S1 tires) / 4WD / 181HP/ 1145kg / 6.3kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

finished 0.150 secods ahead of audi quattro '82
lineup (Impreza and RS6 started in 4th and 5th place )
Audi Quattro '82 ,Hyundai Clix '01 ,Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi '02 ,Audi RS 6 '02 ,Ford RS200 '84

Number of lineup resets: too many , but I'm happy now that it's done.


Beginners Hall: 4WD Challenge race 2 - Autumn Ring Mini Reverse
Car: Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 ´85 (Used, no oil, S1 tires) / 4WD / 181HP/ 1145kg / 6.3kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

finished 7.8 seconds before audi quattro '82
lineup
audi quattro ´82 ,ford rs200 '84 ,hyundai clix ´01 ,subaru impreza sedan wrx sti '02 ,audi rs 6 ´02


Beginners Hall: 4WD Challenge race 3 - Suzuka
Car: Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 ´85 (Used, no oil, S1 tires) / 4WD / 181HP/ 1145kg / 6.3kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

finished 2.8 seconds before another peugeot 205 turbo 16 '85
lineup
peugeot 205 turbo 16 '85 ,audi rs 6 '02 ,audi quattro '82 ,vw new beetle rsi '00 ,nissan stagea 25t rs four s '98

This is the easyest of them all at 4WD Challenge. Any lineup is beatable here.


Beginners Hall: 4WD Challenge race 4 - El Capitan
Car: Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 ´85 (Used, no oil, S1 tires) / 4WD / 181HP/ 1145kg / 6.3kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

finished 2 seconds before audi s4 '98
lineup
audi s4 '98 ,subaru legacy b4 2.0gt specB '03 ,peugeot 205 turbo 16 '85 ,audi rs4 '01 ,mitsubishi lancer evo5 gsr '98


Beginners Hall: FF Challenge Race 2 - Suzuka
Car: Mazda Demio (J) '99 (Used, no oil, S1 tires) / FF / 89HP/ 960kg / 10.8kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

lineup (forgot to write it down, but got it from the replay I saved)
Peugeot 206 ,Mini cooper S ,WV Golf GTi ,Citroen C5 V6 ,ALfa Romeo GTV 3.0 V6 24V GLV

Hadto reset the lineup a few times.



Beginners Hall: FR Challenge race 5 - Driving Park Motorland
Car: Nissan SILVIA Varietta (S15) '00 (Used,no oil) / FR / 147HP / 1330kg / 9.0kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

finished 0.9 secods ahead of 300ZX with total time of 3'24.793
lineup
Nissan 300ZX 2seater (Z32) '98 ,Nissan Skyline GTS-t Type M '91 ,BMW M Coupe '98 ,Nissan Skyline Sedan 350GT-8 '02 ,Chrysler 300C '05

This one took several lineup resets to get it just right.

I like this track/challenge alot since it suits low powered cars very well. 👍


I spent alot time to get the races done as clean as possible.
All the races were done following the rules.

EDIT:
Beginners Hall: 4WD Challenge race 2 - Autumn Ring Mini Reverse
Car: Daihatsu SIRION X4 (J) '00 (Used, no oil) / 4WD / 107/ 840kg / 7.9kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

finished 1.7 seconds ahead of VW New Beetle RSi '00
lineup
VW New Beetle RSi '00 ,Audi S4 '03 ,Toyota CALDINA GT-FOUR '02 ,Audi quattro '82 ,Audi S4 '98

took awhile to find enought slow AI lineup that could be caught with the Sirion X4


Beginners Hall: 4WD Challenge race 3 - Suzuka
Car: Daihatsu SIRION X4 (J) '00 (Used, no oil) / 4WD / 107/ 840kg / 7.9kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

finished 3.6 seconds before Audi S4'03
lineup
Audi S4 '03 ,Toyota CALDINA GT-FOUR '02 ,Audi TT coupe 1.8t quattro '00 ,Audi A3 3.2 quattro '03 ,Land Rover Range Stormer Concept '04

S2's all the way, just like at Autumn ring 'mini.


Beginners Hall: FF Challenge Race 2 - Suzuka
Car: VW Golf GTI '01 (Used, no oil, S1 Tires) / FF / 134/ 1280kg / 9.6kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

finished 3.3 seconds before Toyota Starlet Glanza V '97
lineup
Toyota Starlet Glanza V '97 ,Peugeot 206 S16 '99 ,Fiat Coupe Turbo Plus '00 ,Fiat Punto HGT Abarth '00 ,Peugeot 206cc '01

Alot lineup resets to get the 200 A-spec with S1 Tires.

2nd EDIT:
Midget II Race - Motorland Reverse
Car: Daihatsu Midget II D-type '98 (Used, no oil, S1 Tires) / FR / 30HP / 570kg / 19.0kg/HP / 86 A-spec points by MadMax86

This car is so slow.. I won by 1.5 second gap to 2nd place finishing Midget

Beginners Hall: MR Challenge Race 5 - El Capitan
Car: Toyota MR2 S Edition '99 (Used, no oil) / MR / 125HP / 970kg / 7.8kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

finished 3.2 seconds ahead of Honda NSX Type S Zero '97
lineup
Honda NSX Type S Zero '97 ,Toyota MR2 GT-S '97 ,Honda NSX Type R '02 ,Clio Renault Sport V6 24V '00 ,Lotus Esprit Turbo HC '87

The race was piece of cake, S2's used. Other MR Challenges give me a headache..


MadMax

 

[MadMax]

I was doing Endurance races: Roadster 4hr
in Mazda MX-5 J-Limited (J) '91 108 HP 940 Kg (used, no oil , S1's)
At the 2 hour mark I was 2 laps behind a Madza MX-5 1800 RS (J) '00 so,
I desided that 🤬 it!
Best lap I had done so far was 1'12.473 and I hit constant 1'13s in the car..
Then I pitted to change for B-spec and see the laptimes the 2000 MX5 was setting.
I got really pissed when I saw that it hit constant 1'11s and had a best lap of 1'10.634.
So gave the B-spec rest of the race..
The race would have given about 120 A-spec pts

"Bah" (frustration)

I will return to this even eventually.

EDIT: Bought used 91000+ km one that has just 107 HP

Did a few races:
MAZDA

NR-A Roadster Cup: Race 1 Twin Ring Motegi East Short Course
Car: Mazda MX-5 J-Limited (J) '91 (used, no oil) / FR / 107HP / 940kg / 8.8kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

NR-A Roadster Cup: Race 3 Clubman Stage Route 5 Reverse
Car: Mazda MX-5 J-Limited (J) '91 (used, no oil) / FR / 107HP / 940kg / 8.8kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

NR-A Roadster Cup: Race 4 Tsukuba Circuit
Car: Mazda MX-5 J-Limited (J) '91 (used, no oil) / FR / 107HP / 940kg / 8.8kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86

NR-A Roadster Cup: Race 5 Trial Mountain Circuit
Car: Mazda MX-5 J-Limited (J) '91 (used, no oil) / FR / 107HP / 940kg / 8.8kg/HP / 200 A-spec by MadMax86


The race 2, should be possible in a 128 HP + Miata.
(possibly in '00 RS 1.8 with S1's)
Couldn't really keep up on the straiths in the 107 HP one..

2ND EDIT:

Just finished this:
Endurance races: Roadster 4hr
Car: Mazda MX-5 J-Limited (J) '91 (used, no oil , S1 Tires) / FR / 107HP / 940kg / 8.8kg/HP / 113 A-spec by MadMax86

total 195 laps with time 4;01'03.144
vs lineup ( in race fastest lap 1'12.365 in draft and about 0.020 slower in free air)
Mazda MX-5 1.8 RS (J) '98
Mazda MX-5 V-Special Type II (J) '93
Mazda MX-5 '89
Mazda MX-5 SR-Limited (J) '97
Mazda MX-5 S-Special Type I (J) '95

fewh! I knew it could be done if the 1.8 RS (J) '00 wouldn't show up.
Also rerolled the lineup abit to get better score out of it fist had 108, 109 and then 113!


MadMax

 

[mynameissport]

I have not made a contribution in a while, well no harm to do the same entry and try my luck so here it goes.

Endurance race: Fuji 1000km
Car: AMG Mercedes CLK-GTR Race Car '98 (R1 tyres) / MR / ?HP (797HP on garage screen) / 1000kg / ?kg/HP (1.3kg/HP using garage value) / 200 A-spec by mynameissport

V.S. PAL Lineup below:
Nissan R92CP
Nissan R89C
Sauber Mercedes C9
Mazda 787B
Toyota GT-One

Not a too bad race but a nice little challenge and a harder lineup used than Mr Smallhorses did and pitted every 18 laps and did the last 12 laps stint so a different pit stop window used compared to SH.

 

[RVDNuT374]

European Hall: European Classic Car League- all races

Car: '66 Alfa Romeo Spider Duetto 1600 (no oil) / FR / 109 hp / 960 kg / 8.8 kg/hp / 98 A-spec points against the following lineup:

1. '62 Lotus Elan S1
2. '63 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale
3. '65 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600
4. '70 Mini Marcos GT
5. '64 Ginetta G4

Qualifying is required for all events except Nurburgring.

 

[GTsail]

Thanks Hispeed and Smallhorses for this excellent thread.

Below are my first contributions to this stock car quest:

Since money is no object, I went to the used car lot and purchased two Subaru WRX's (I have over 500 cars, but most of them are modified, and I did not want to run afoul of the stock car rules by mistake). A 1999 WRX gave me 143 A-Spec points, while the 1998 WRX gave me 155 points as follows:

Subaru One Make Race:
Stars of Pleiades - Suzuka
Car: Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STI Ver.V '98 (used, old oil)/4WD/252HP/1270kg/5.0kg/HP/ 155 A-Spec points

The race was a nice clean race against three Subaru WRX's and two Legacy B4's. I was following the leader on the second lap until the turn just before the hairpin when the leading car spun out on the downhill by touching the sand, and he ended up on the track facing towards me. I sneaked by without touching him and went on for a nice comfortable win. I just kept telling myself not to cut the final chicane.

And then, to get my first 200 A-Spec point win in a stock car, I took my new BMW M3 GTR Race Car (which had 12 miles of testing on the odometer) to the Dream Car Championship in the Extreme Hall.

Dream Car Championship - Race 9 - El Capitan
Car: BMW M3 GTR Race Car '01 (R2 tires, downforce 35/49) /FR/444HP/1120kg/2.5kg/HP/ 200 A-Spec points

I had a nice clean race against a Nissan GTR Concept LM Race Car, Ford GT LM Race Car '02, Pagani Zonda LM Race Car, Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car, Mazda RX-7 LM Race Car.

Its kind of interesting racing stock cars this way, because all you do is buy the car and take it to the track. I have been so used to buying cars and buying parts and buying tires and tweeking the tuning, that its a nice change of pace to just buy a car and go race.

GTsail290

 

[alhajoth]

Still working on winning a race in every single car..

Extreme Hall: Formula GT Race 3 - High Speed Ring
Car: Nisssan R92CP Race Car '92 (used, no oil, R1) / MR / 848HP / 900kg / 1.1kg/HP / 200 A-spec

Beginners Hall: Sunday cup Race 4 - Clubman Stage 5 Reverse
Car: Toyota Prius G '02 (6.2m used, no oil) / FF / 75HP / 1260kg / 16.8kg/HP / 200 A-spec

Professional Hall: NA Sports race 5 - Trial Mountain
Car: Sprinter Trueno GT-Apex S.Shigeno Version '00 (used, no oil) / FR / 190HP (Garage value) / 825kg / 4.3kg/HP / 200 A-spec

 

[GTsail]

Continuing with my Subaru theme, I took my Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01 to Tsukuba:

Special Conditions: Tsukuba Wet (Normal)
Car: Subaru Impreza Rally Car Prototype '01 (R1 tires) 4WD / 305HP (at garage screen) / 1230kg / 4.0 kg/HP / 200 A-Spec points

Fairly easy race against the Saleen S7 once you tip-toe past the Saleen without touching.

On a tangent, I was thinking of saving my game from within GT4, where it brings over your credits but deletes all your cars, and using this game save for the stock car challenge where you buy/win cars and race them stock. This way I would know that all my cars are stock (because right now, I would say that 90% of my cars are corrupted with various upgrades. Has anyone tried this?

GTsail290

 

[ajbownes]

I'd like to throw my head into the ring

Endurance Race - Laguna Seca 200 Miles
Car: RUF RGT '00 (R1 tyres) / RR / 379HP / 1330kg / 3.5kg/HP / 200 A-spec
Lineup(starting order) - Pontiac GTO 5.7 Coupe, Chevrolet Camaro, Saleen S7, Ford GT '05, Shelby Series 1 Super Charged.
Time - 2:21'11.216 (1'31.179 Lap) +25secs vs. Shelby Series 1.

This was hard. I was never going to win in a straight race against the Ford, S7 or Shelby so I needed to last the same amount of time as the S7 (22 Laps). I managed to 3 stop this in the end.

Lap 1-22
I managed to get up to first by the end of the first lap I think while the S7 held up the Ford and Shelby. I wasn't expecting the Ford to pit on Lap 13 so that took it out of the equation and left me holding off the S7 while the Shelby pitted on Lap 17. The S7 was right on my for the rest of the stint.

Laps 23-44
Much of the same from the S7 but I was shocked to come out of the pits behind the Shelby. I had to wait until that pitted in before I could deal with holding the S7 off again.

Laps 44-67
The Shelby was 30 seconds ahead when I came out of the pits and pulling away from me. When it eventually pitted in (Lap 52) it came out 6 seconds ahead and had the Camaro about 5 seconds up the track. I managed to catch it and overtake it while it's tires were cool before it reached the Camaro (Fastest lap of the race too). Then it and the S7 got held up for ages, the S7 getting through first at Lap 57 while the Shelby was still behind it a few laps later. The S7 closed to within 3 seconds of me but consistent laps under 1:32 kept it 3 seconds back.

Laps 68-Finish
The Shelby was ahead of me when I came out and pitted 1 lap later coming out 2 seconds ahead. Like earlier, I took advantage of it's cold tires and got a few secomnds ahead. Again, consistent laps under 1:32 stopped it from getting close until 3 laps from the end when my tires were done. Thankfully, that and the S7 pitted in.

I was really shocked that I managed to outlast the S7 because my tire management is absolutely appaling

 

[alhajoth]

Nice win, ajbownes!👍

But your report got me thinking, is there a difference in the performance of the AI cars between the various versions of GT4? I've run the Laguna Seca race many times, and I've never experienced the Shelby Series 1 being able to beat, or even compete with the Saleen S7.
I've noticed some results that seem odd to me over in the race-report section too, including one Tokyo-race that had the RX-8 Concept finishing last!
I see ajbownes is from England, that's where I bought my game so it would be strange if there really was a difference between our games.
Has anyone else noticed anything like this?

 

[Smallhorses]

From the information compiled by Digital-Nitrate for this race, it seems to reveal that on average, the Shelby's finishing time is around 10s quicker than the Saleen's probably due to a better tyre & pit strategy. The Saleen is monstrously fast, but notoriously poor on worn tyres.

Ranking & Data on all the AI Cars for Endurance Event: Laguna Seca 200 Miles

I can't speak from experience though as I've only run this race a couple of times, both in stock NSXs, and therefore I was forced to avoid the fastest cars in the AI field to stand any chance of winning.

 

[alhajoth]

From the information compiled by Digital-Nitrate for this race, it seems to reveal that on average, the Shelby's finishing time is around 10s quicker than the Saleen's probably due to a better tyre & pit strategy. The Saleen is monstrously fast, but notoriously poor on worn tyres.

Ranking & Data on all the AI Cars for Endurance Event: Laguna Seca 200 Miles

I can't speak from experience though as I've only run this race a couple of times, both in stock NSXs, and therefore I was forced to avoid the fastest cars in the AI field to stand any chance of winning.

Hmm, that is strange. Perhaps it's just been the lineups I've raced, the S7 has always beaten the Shelby with relative ease in my races.

I saw one post saying that the Ford RS200 road car, stock, makes 200 A-spec points at stars and stipes races in american hall. Tried it, was beaten, but I think it is doable.
Anyone up for the challenge?

I bet hispeed has been waiting anxiously for the last 4 years for someone to respond to this post, so here it is: 👍

American Races: Stars and Stripes Race 1 - Laguna Seca
Car: Ford RS200 '84 / 4WD / 247HP / 1180kg / 4.8 kg/HP / 200 A-spec

American Races: Stars and Stripes Race 2 - Seattle
Car: Ford RS200 '84 / 4WD / 247HP / 1180kg / 4.8 kg/HP / 200 A-spec

American Races: Stars and Stripes Race 3 - Infineon Stock Car Course
Car: Ford RS200 '84 / 4WD / 247HP / 1180kg / 4.8 kg/HP / 200 A-spec


By the way, has anyone ever won anything but the green Camaro from this tournament? I've completed it four times now, and I have 4 ugly green cars to show for it..

 

[CarBastard]

One (perhaps nooby...) question, Do you have to find out a race that gets you the 200 A-Spec points or you just have to complete it to be part of the "Club 200" ?

 

[alhajoth]

One (perhaps nooby...) question, Do you have to find out a race that gets you the 200 A-Spec points or you just have to complete it to be part of the "Club 200" ?

Not sure if I understand what you're asking, but you can join the club if you've won a race for 200 points using a stock car. If someone else has won the same race before in the same car doesn't matter, confirmation is always good.
But you do have to win the race, anyone understands entering the Subaru 360 in the FGT-championship will offer 200 points, but it's unwinnable, rendering the information useless.

 

[ajbownes]

Nice win, ajbownes!👍

Thanks

I was expecting a lot more competition from the Ford GT too but it pitted in so many times that it didn't really cause a problem. I remember from doing the El Capitan endurance and the Shelby surprised me quite a bit there too.

Professional Hall: GT World Championship Race 5 - El Capitan
Car: Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car '98 (New, R2/R3 tyres) / MR / 789HP / 1000kg / 1.3kg/HP / 164 A-Spec

I don't remember much about this except it was against a pretty weak field and won by 40seconds against the MINOLTA.

Professional Hall: GT World Championship Race 5 - El Capitan
Car: Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca '00 (R3 tires) / 627HP from garage menu (no oil) / 1150kg / 1.8kg/HP 200 A-Spec

Total Time - 17'40.805
Fastest Lap -1'32.250
Line up - MINOLTA Toyota, Nissan R89C, Nissan R89CP, Gillet Vetigo and I think the Nissan R390 GT1
Win Margin - +9secs vs Nissan R92CP

This was pretty easy and I was never in danger of losing. The MINOLTA fell 8 seconds back after 3 laps and hung around that far back until it pitted in. I had to pit in at the same time as the R92CP took over and lead. when that pitted in it came out ahead of the MINOLTA but never troubled me.

Professional Hall: GT World Championship Race 5 - El Capitan
Car: Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car '01 (R3 tires) 195 A-Spec
I didn't write the HP or weight details but I'll edit the post with them when I next load the game up.

Total Time - 18'04.477
Fastest Lap -1'33.961
Line up - Audi R8, Nissan R390 GT1, Chevrolet Camaro (same on as mine only in the much cooler blue colour scheme), Chaparrel 2D, Gillet Vertigo Win Margin - +3.515 vs. Audi R8.

This had a much easier field. I'm pretty sure that without altering some setting you couldn't beat a field with Group C or LMP cars for 200 points cos you need to stay around 1'32.5 - 1'33.5 and the Camaro can't really do that.

The gap was a lot closer than it should have been because I needed to stay out an extra lap and the R8 gained 7 seconds on that lap. I had to catch up to the R8 when it came out of the pits but that only took a lap and then it was just a case of getting to the end. Not overly difficult. Will probably put the replay up later too.

Does anyone have any other suggestions for what could do this race? I tried the XJ220 Race Car but the XJR-9 and the Toyota 7 were a touch too quick when I tried it.

 

[Austin343]

Wow, it's been a while since I last posted in this thread.

ajbownes, someone used the Motul Pitwork Z for that race and had success. You could try that and see where it gets you.

Smallhorses, I think it might be wise to heed your advice to yourself from three months ago, although posting in this thread has admittedly slowed way down:

The CLUB 200 list in Post #1 is now finally up-to-date again (I'm never leaving it 4 months between updates again )

And I do have a new submission.

Professional Hall: World Classic Car Race - Races 2, 4, and 5
Car: Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto '66 (S1 tires) / FR / 109HP / 960kg / 8.8kg/HP / 107 A-spec points

Versus (don't bother trying to repeat it, since I did some other things first): Toyota 2000GT, Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA, Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale, Lotus Elan S1, Nissan Silvia (CSP311)

I didn't think the Toyota would be as much of a problem as it was, and it beat me soundly at Fuji, where I finished second, and Nurburgring, where I ended up third after declining to qualify and watching the Elan lead until the final straight. I did qualify for all but Nurburgring, and had no problem at El Capitan, Cote D'Azur, or Laguna Seca, except for the 2000GT slamming into my side three times for no reason in the first few corners at El Capitan.

 

[Watchman]

Endurance races: Laguna Seca 200 miles

Car: Shelby Series 1 '03 (R1 Tyres, Oil changed) / FR / 351HP / 1202kg / 3.426kg/HP / 200 A-spec by S-Line Audi Fan

 

[RVDNuT374]

Special Conditions Hall: Tsukuba Wet (easy)

Car: Renault 5 Turbo '80 / MR / 160HP / 970kg / 6.0kg/HP / 200 A-spec pts. against the '03 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII RS

 

[MadMax]

I tested Jaguar XKR Coupe (used) at El Capitan Endurance race
and I know now that it can be done using either S2's or S1's for 200pts .

The only downside of this car is the overwhelming understeer that is a killer with anything other than green tyres.

So this is really a challenge to get around El Capitan for 66 laps.



MadMax

 

[ajbownes]

ajbownes, someone used the Motul Pitwork Z for that race and had success. You could try that and see where it gets you.

Yeah I'll try that. Might try one or two of the other JGTC cars too while I'm at it. Don't think I'll have too much success but it's worth trying.

Tried again with the Camaro vs the Pescarolo Courage and managed to hold it behind me up until the last corner and then my awful tire wear kicked in and sent me into the wall

Got a few more:
Professional Hall: GT World Championship Race 1 - Tokyo
Car: Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car '98 (New, R2/R2 tyres) / MR / 789HP / 1000kg / 1.3kg/HP 200 A-Spec

Total Time - 15'02.727
Fastest Lap - 1'25.170
Line up - Sauber C9, Mazda 787B, Nissan R89C, MINOLTA Toyota, Jaguar XJR-9
Win Margin - + 1.440 vs Jaguar XJR-9

Nice and simple really. Just made sure I didn't fall too far back until they pitted.


Professional Hall: GT World Championship Race 3 - Hong Kong
Car: Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car '98 (New, R2/R2 tyres) / MR / 789HP / 1000kg / 1.3kg/HP 200 A-Spec

Total Time - 22'27.876
Fastest Lap - 1'11.725
Line up - Sauber C9, Mazda 787B, Nissan R89C, MINOLTA Toyota, Jaguar XJR-9
Win Margin - + 6.697 vs Sauber C9

I knew from the start that all I had to do was stay ahead of the C9 while the MINOLTA pulled away because it would pit twice. I overtook the C9 on lap 4 but came out of the pits behind it and had to catch it up.

British GT Series: Race 3 - El Capitan
Car: Jaguar XKR Coupe '99 (6.2 mile used, no oil) / FR / 380HP / 1640kg / 4.3kg/HP 200 A-Spec

 

[Dotini]

I believe I have found the ideal grid to defeat for maximum A-spec at the Pan-Euro. This grid works out especially well for you at the difficult round at La Sarthe. The grid consists of BMW M3 CSL, TVR T350C, AMG SL 65, Lotus Motorsports Elise and TVR Tuscan. At La Sarthe, you can draft to the front while the Tuscan takes more than a lap to start chasing you.

I found this grid in the NTSC mainline #19 position when driving a Stratos, and in the #14 position when driving an M5, by using the Preview function to force alternate grids to appear. A preview of the Pan-Euro Sarthe round will cause one alternate grid to insert itself into the game. A preview of any of the 24 hour races will force about 6 alternate grids to appear. sukerkin has reported getting this grid at PAL position #18, but I'm not sure which car he was using at the time.

Note: Neither of the cars I was using was stock, and this report is for advisory purposes only.

 

[Smallhorses]

The CLUB 200 List in Post #1 is now up to date again after a marathon copy / paste session. (Well what else to do in a hotel room in Pasadena?!!!)

CLUB 200 now welcomes 4 new drivers to the list too. Congratulations to: MadMax86, GTsail290, ajbownes & S-Line Audi Fan!
Welcome to the stock car racing elite. 👍

 

[Watchman]

Thanks for the warm welcome, Smallhorses

 

[ajbownes]

Thanks for the warm welcome Smallhorses.

Am really enjoying doing this challenge actually. Having loads of fun with the enduro's like this too.

Big update coming up later when I have time to type it up

 

[GTsail]

Thanks Smallhorses for adding me to the Club 200 List

Also, thanks for all your work on this thread (both for the updates and all the stock cars that you race). I always check your posts before I try out new races.

Respectfully,
GTsail290

 

[Austin343]

Nice updating, Smallhorses. 👍 I did find a couple mistakes, however: first, the [color] tags went awry on the Tuning Car GP. Second, I seem to have somehow messed up in copying and pasting when I posted my British GT entry, and those races should be 200 points, not 146 as I said.