Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA)

[1241Penguin]

I remember Anonymous clarifying that they are NOT attacking PSN. I'd assume that they will only attack the Music branches of Sony.

In the description box:

 

[Pupik]

I understand this time..

So anyone up for a second PSN strike?

Let's not go down the road of supporting illegal activity...that's not what GTPlanet is about.

 

[Matty]

As I said, no.

EDIT: Removed as Moderator pointed out this as a bad idea.

 

[Sharky.]

It's pretty easy to download them though and you can find videos on the site to do so. The government would find a way to link all that together and make the claim YouTube is guilty of letting users download content.

Next thing you know the likes of Chrome and Firefox will be made illegal on the grounds of "providing tools to facilitate the acquisition of copyrighted content", because Google and Mozilla have Youtube downloader extensions in their browser addon repositories. userscripts.org (Greasemonkey) would be illegal as well as there's userscripts that add download buttons to the Youtube page.

That's how dumb the law as written is, you can link pretty much anything to copyright infringement in some way, shape or form.

 

[Keef]

http://gizmodo.com/5877679/anonymous-kills-department-of-justice-site-in-megaupload-revenge-strike

Apparently the CEO of MegaUpload is rapper and music producer Swizz Beats. That seem odd to you?

The MPAA and RIAA strongly supported the indictment of MegaUpload. Funny then that the artists themselves like MegaUpload. They like it so much they made a song about it.



According to the Youtube description, the song features:

Will.i.am
P Diddy
Kanye West
Chris Brown
Jamie Foxx
Kim Kardashian
Lil John
The Game
Floyd Mayweather
Serena Williams
Ciara.

Doesn't that seem odd to you? This whole thing, I don't know. Kinda seems like Hollywood and the music industry only care about their own bottom line, and don't care about their artists at all, without whom the industries would not exist. It almost seems like the government is in bed with the Industry and will do anything they're lobbied to do. Doesn't it kinda seem like that? That kinda sucks.

EDIT: It's also kinda of funny that those people in the video supporting MegaUpload are together worth far more than MU was accused to ripping off from the Industry ($500 million). P. Diddy himself is worth a bout $450 million.

 

[Terronium-12]

By any means necessary. As I've said before (it was either in this thread or the related thread in Feedback section), I neither support nor advocate the practice of piracy, but if this is what it'll take to get the message through - carry on.

Yes, one could argue that this will do nothing but fortify the arguments that are in favor of the two bills passing, but looking at the larger picture, in the unlikely event both these bills are passed just imagine how much worse it's going to get. We'll be paying for things most of the supporters for SOPIPA encouraged. Where does it end?

I'm being arrested for something you encouraged? And get out of here with that "you should know better." motif, as you pocketed money because of piracy.

 

[White & Nerdy]

Yes. Yes it does.

 

[Matty]

In way's GTPlanet is a major infiltrator via the PhotoMode Forums.

 

[Matty]

Apparently the CEO of MegaUpload is rapper and music producer Swizz Beats. That seem odd to you?

The MPAA and RIAA strongly supported the indictment of MegaUpload. Funny then that the artists themselves like MegaUpload. They like it so much they made a song about it.

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According to the Youtube description, the song features:



Doesn't that seem odd to you? This whole thing, I don't know. Kinda seems like Hollywood and the music industry only care about their own bottom line, and don't care about their artists at all, without whom the industries would not exist. It almost seems like the government is in bed with the Industry and will do anything they're lobbied to do. Doesn't it kinda seem like that? That kinda sucks.

EDIT: It's also kinda of funny that those people in the video supporting MegaUpload are together worth far more than MU was accused to ripping off from the Industry ($500 million). P. Diddy himself is worth a bout $450 million.

I read that MegaUpload/MegaVideo paid them to do this as a way of getting autorities to think that artist's to support there website.

Sorry for double post was hoping someone else would say something in between my two posts

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I remember Anonymous clarifying that they are NOT attacking PSN. I'd assume that they will only attack the Music branches of Sony.

In the description box:

If the U.S. gov't hates Anon and Lulzsac now, think how much of thorn they'll be if these pass.

 

[White & Nerdy]

In way's GTPlanet is a major infiltrator via the PhotoMode Forums.

That's also stupid if you can't even post screenshots or videos from a game. They're throwing away free advertising there too - I'm considering buying Minecraft, but I never would have cared about it if it weren't for videos on YouTube.

 

[Matty]

That's mainstream advertising right there.

IMO Sony make's more via YouTube in their Gaming franchise then they lose from YouTube in their Music franchise..

But that's just my opinion I have no facts and neither do Sony..

 

[McLaren]

Posting screenshots isn't an issue. If you took one, you'd notice there's always a GT logo in the top right. In GT4, I believe there was a notice in the bottom left. Similar to "Forza 4" logos on their screenshots, those can easily be argued as copyright logos.

It's editing them out, or placing copyrighted names & such that could be an issue (like the "Brochure" thread).

 

[White & Nerdy]

That's mainstream advertising right there.

IMO Sony make's more via YouTube in their Gaming franchise then they lose from YouTube in their Music franchise..

But that's just my opinion I have no facts and neither do Sony..

If you're talking about my Minecraft example, it wasn't an official video. I got to Minecraft from TF2 via either "Scout plays Minecraft" or "Meet the Griefer", then went from there.

 

[White & Nerdy]

I wouldn't mind calling a boycott of all supporting companies until they withdraw their support or SOPA and PIPA die.

(Oops, I'm so used to rapid-fire posts in here that I double-posted. Sorry.)

 

[Matty]

If you're talking about my Minecraft example, it wasn't an official video. I got to Minecraft from TF2 via either "Scout plays Minecraft" or "Meet the Griefer", then went from there.

What I meant was by seeing someone else play certain parts of a game you may or may not want to buy it..

I didnt mean by actual Sony trailers.

 

[McLaren]

I wouldn't mind calling a boycott of all supporting companies until they withdraw their support or SOPA and PIPA die.

(Oops, I'm so used to rapid-fire posts in here that I double-posted. Sorry.)

People are already doing that. Look at the gigantic backlash GoDaddy.com got for supporting (& possibly co-writing parts of it) SOPA & thus, exempt from its rules.

http://donttreadonmike.com/2011/12/...e-sopa-they-are-also-exempt-from-it-scumbags/

GoDaddy lost 37,000+ domain names & have now completely changed their stance.

 

[Matty]

People are already doing that. Look at the gigantic backlash GoDaddy.com got for supporting (& possibly co-writing parts of it) SOPA & thus, exempt from its rules.

GoDaddy lost 37,000+ domain names & have now completely changed their stance.

This makes me hopeful that it won't get passed.

Since it is somewhat corrupt.. I can't explain why as I can't find the words but something like this makes me think there is a corrupt part of the bill and government won't pass corrupt stuff (I hope)

 

[RACECAR]

This makes me hopeful that it won't get passed.

Since it is somewhat corrupt.. I can't explain why as I can't find the words but something like this makes me think there is a corrupt part of the bill and government won't pass corrupt stuff (I hope)

This is the same government that in itself IS corrupt.

 

[Terronium-12]

This makes me hopeful that it won't get passed.

Since it is somewhat corrupt.. I can't explain why as I can't find the words but something like this makes me think there is a corrupt part of the bill and government won't pass corrupt stuff (I hope)

You mean like essentially nullifying an individual's freedom of speech and expression?

The entire prospect is corrupt. Some of the companies supporting the bill have profited from the very thing they're attempting to abolish.

 

[Azuremen]

There's also lot of nonsense floating around about this bill, maybe because people don't really understand exactly what a copyright is, what public domain is, what the rights of a creator works are, et cetera. I also don't buy the argument (no pun intended) that poor quality works are the reason there's theft...people are just as likely to have illegal copies of works they do appreciate and enjoy.

Delivery system is a decent amount of it, from what I've seen. And even what companies like Disney have found - people can get pirated things faster than normal releases in a lot of cases, which is a large part of what makes them appealing. Why wait a week for something to show up on Hulu or the networks site when you can download it an hour after it airs?

That aside, much of what is stolen will not be gained in the future, as most people are cheap and typically don't care that much about quality.

Really though, the tone almost sounds like your support SOPA in this post? From what I've read of it, and on it, it has a enough holes in it that a truck full of RIAA and MPAA monkeys could drive through.

 

[Matty]

You mean like essentially nullifying an individual's freedom of speech and expression?

The entire prospect is corrupt. Some of the companies supporting the bill have profited from the very thing they're attempting to abolish.

I didn't but that's another way to look at it.

I'll try explain what I mean.

From what I see GoDaddy.com have co-written the bill in a way as to benefit themselves. Therefore making them somewhat corrupt by trying to bend the law in their favour. And I hope government won't pass something that benefits it's authors that from it can do stuff their trying to outlaw.

I may be wrong, but that's how I see it and it could probably be written better then that.

Basically I think GoDaddy.com are corrupt.

Will this mess up NetFlix?

 

[Azuremen]

From what I see GoDaddy.com have co-written the bill in a way as to benefit themselves. Therefore making them somewhat corrupt by trying to bend the law in their favour. And I hope government won't pass something that benefits it's authors that from it can do stuff their trying to outlaw.

FYI, GoDaddy pulled their support for SOPA a while ago.

 

[McLaren]

I didn't but that's another way to look at it.

I'll try explain what I mean.

From what I see GoDaddy.com have co-written the bill in a way as to benefit themselves. Therefore making them somewhat corrupt by trying to bend the law in their favour. And I hope government won't pass something that benefits it's authors that from it can do stuff their trying to outlaw.

I may be wrong, but that's how I see it and it could probably be written better then that.

Basically I think GoDaddy.com are corrupt.

Will this mess up NetFlix?

Well, as the link says, it doesn't say exactly what GoDaddy wrote or contributed, or that they wrote an exemption for themselves. But, it's the sheer fact that they supported it enough to give some sort of contribution is what caused the boycott.

Netflix is more than likely not applicable. It is a pay per service, so I fail to see the piracy in any of it at all. It is however, another company that is now opposed to the bill unlike before.

 

[Matty]

Well, as the link says, it doesn't say exactly what GoDaddy wrote or contributed, or that they wrote an exemption for themselves. But, it's the sheer fact that they supported it enough to give some sort of contribution is what caused the boycott.

Netflix is more than likely not applicable. It is a pay per service, so I fail to see the piracy in any of it at all. It is however, another company that is now opposed to the bill unlike before.

They publicly pulled there support yes

As far as I know they haven't officially pulled there support hence the corrupt part, well one of them.

 

[Racedude]

Related to SOPA, a similar law passed in Spain recently. Look up "Ley Sinde", on Google, use translate if needed.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

http://gizmodo.com/5877679/anonymous-kills-department-of-justice-site-in-megaupload-revenge-strike

Just because SOPA was shot down, that doesn't give people the right to pirate at will.

 

[Pupik]

Really though, the tone almost sounds like your support SOPA in this post? From what I've read of it, and on it, it has a enough holes in it that a truck full of RIAA and MPAA monkeys could drive through.

I'm just explaining away some of the ignorance I've heard about why this bill exists in the first place; someone people on this forum are genuinely worried about things changing that aren't actually going to happen...one members was honestly worried he'd have to blur out car manufacturer logos from now on.

I am providing a little more rationale than "this bill is stupid and dumb" for its existence; it ultimately sounds like some people here are worried that the Internet Police are going to bash down their door and take their stash of crap they didn't pay for. I'm against the bill(s) because the means of fighting piracy in these ways sets an extremely dangerous precedent for the way the web might be monitored, censored, or blocking out by access to all types of content, not just illegal content. Last thing I need is more hoops to jump through, because Brand X competes with Brand Y internet service provider.

People are already doing that. Look at the gigantic backlash GoDaddy.com got for supporting (& possibly co-writing parts of it) SOPA & thus, exempt from its rules...GoDaddy lost 37,000+ domain names & have now completely changed their stance.

Hope my annual hosting fee doesn't go up now...

 

[Zenith]

Found this relevant:

 

[RACECAR]

Just because SOPA was shot down, that doesn't give people the right to pirate at will.

Whoa, where is anyone saying or indicating that? All I've seen are complaints towards the fact that this bill threatens the internet as a whole.