What Honda did not announce, is whether or not the car will be MR. They're allowed to run the car MR, and they're running the NSX, but that doesn't mean the Super GT car has been confirmed as running MR. It just means they want to do it, and they have permission to do it, but that doesn't mean that it's going to be MR. Many people have told you this and you're still arguing about it. When will you get the point?
Wrong. They said the NSX will have a mid engine with hybrid power at all 4 wheels. They did announce the NSX to be MR. And with the SGT rules stipulating 2.0 liter 4 cylinder turbo's, the hybrid powertrain can't be used in GT500. Honda has said they will use the NSX based off the concept. The concept is not an FR layout. No one needs to tell me anything. Honda has said themselves.
I know that. We all know that. 👎
Are you sure you know that? Because you seem to think they'll use some alternate layout from what the NSX is going to be on the road. They are basing it
off the NSX concept which is mid engine. But you all know that.
Nothing is gone until the car is officially unveiled or multiple prototypes are seen.
Wrong again. The article from December said GTA accepts Honda's request to use the NSX in 2014. Honda said this month they will go ahead and use it in 2014. No "if's" there bud.
And the knowledge that they'll have to run BOP might change their minds, since the last thing they want is a double whammy on their performance when everyone else is guaranteed to only deal with success balance. Not saying this will change their minds, but if they realize that they can't make a car that fits the rules, is MR, and is competitive, then they're going to have to drop something to go to the front, and MR is the thing that will have to drop.
Of course it won't change their minds. You watched the Honda motorsport activity press conference, correct? They said they will use the NSX in 2014, correct? The article I linked to about the BOP
for Mid Engined NSX from the GTA was dated from last year, December I think. That's 3 months from GTA releasing this information
to the public. You really think Honda would change their mind about using the NSX now? That makes no sense. Why even announce the NSX for 2014 if they have doubts of using it?
Don't mis-quote me. My hypothetical GTA example never changed minds. It was hypothetical Honda, and like I said above, if they realize that the negatives outweigh the positives when they test an MR prototype, they can very well change their minds. GTA could always say "You can run MR, but you need to do this, this, and this" and Honda may choose not to do those things in order to be competitive.
You spoke of reading comprehension before, then used an example in your last post. So when I use one, I'm mis-quoting you? You're being hypocritical and it's pathetic. What I said was hypothetical in itself. 👎
I know what the link says, we keep telling you you're wrong, you're the only person who keeps saying you're right. How do you not see that? I know Honda took the acceptance, and I know they said they're using the NSX, but that doesn't mean the NSX is going to be MR.
No, you're wrong. As is everyone else who thinks the NSX won't be an MR GT500. They will not change the layout of the engine just because that's what everyone else is running. You don't even specify which link you're denying. There's at least 2 links saying the acceptances of Honda using the NSX
because it's MR and there is also a link describing the change to the chassis in 2014 from what DTM currently run because of the NSX being MR. So you're denying which source? Or both?
You don't know that because no design of the racecar has been released or shown or leaked. The rules thus-far say that your car must be MR. Honda has an acceptance from the GTA to use MR if they want to make an MR car. That doesn't mean they'll make an MR car.
That makes absolutely no sense. Honda asks the GTA for permission to use the NSX as their 2014 car because it's a mid engined car, GTA grants them permission. But somehow you seem to believe they won't make it MR? So what's the point in their bargaining with GTA and
seemingly ITR to use the MR layout/NSX?
So it's okay for you to compare modern GT500 cars to old GT500 cars, but the second Toronado brings up old GT300 cars, it's suddenly an invalid argument? Because you do realize the current GT500 rules have about as much in common as any of the old SGT rules regardless of the class, right?
When did Honda say they were using the NSX in GT300? Never. They said they will use it in
GT500. GT300 runs to a whole different ruleset than GT500 does. Therefor it has no relevance. I brought up the NSX being in GT500 before
because of the vehicle specific BOP, just like the link says it will be in 2014. The point is Honda has made this decision before knowing their car will be handicapped, so for people thinking that they won't run the NSX because it may receive a handicap, all they have to do is take a look at Honda's history with the same car in the same class.
You can make a Super GT car based on the NSX and make it FR. Honda did it awhile back.
That was a test car for their hybrid powertrain. The NSX was only a body and was never intended to race.
No, my friend, it's you who must not follow Grand-Am. Otherwise you'd know the difference between it and the Rolex Sports Car Series, which I was not talking about. See, I can make snide assumptions too.
Grand-Am is the sanctioning body which handles CTSCC, Rolex and a number of smaller series as well. They're also the ones pegged to sanction the American DTM series, and they may not be as kind to MR as the GTA is.
Really? CTSCC has run Porsches, those are mid/rear engine, Rolex has the cars I listed, DP being ALL mid engine. On top of that they are joining with ALMS with... Mid engine GTE's and Mid engine LMP2s and Rear engine Porsche GTCs. I don't think you can say they won't be kind to MR cars.
Anyway, there was a private test at Okayama with some cars- check these pictures out of the new aero parts teams were trying
The NSX concept hybrid powertrain is also independent. There are individual motors running the wheels. I didn't dismiss anything. History speaks for itself.
