Suspension for this?

[massradia1]

Today my friend got suspended from school till Tuesday next week for:

Selling a kid some headphones(turned out to be fakes, which he never knew about)

It was two months and the other kid had sold them on and had not paid him so he messaged him on Facebook stuff like "Give me £40 tomorrow" and sometimes using Caps locks because he needed to pay for a phone.

What happened: This kid, who sells cigarettes, is legally underage for facebook and has not paid for two months gets no punishment.

My friendolice got involved for, harassment,bullying and fraud. Spent a day in isolation and a week suspension from school. Police are making a decision and school are sending the report of to the college. He has good grades and attendance. This will destroy his chances of further education!

4 things the kid should be done for:
Selling cigarettes
Not paying
Selling fake goods
Underage for facebook

Does anyone other than me think this is harsh/unfair? 👎

 

[wfooshee]

Facebook has a minimum age? My grandkids are on Facebook.

As to the situation, who cares what the other kid does? The situation involved what your friend did. Why's he selling "fake" headphones? And why does the other guy have them before paying for them? What proves the date of the transaction? The only thing anybody knows is that your friend hassled the other kid. They have the FB messages. They go on what they know and what they can show.

 

[Pupik]

So you want our support for someone who performs fraud, deals in cigarettes (probably not old enough to smoke), works with stolen goods?

Find new friends. Or at least, hang around him until he's elected to higher office, and then sell his memoirs to the highest bidder.

 

[massradia1]

Minimum age is 13. He didn't know himself that they were fake and paid original price for them. The asked the kid 3 times if he had the money to which he replied yes he would pay tomorrow and has said the same thing since. My mate approached him yesterday and asked for the money. Next lesson, school police officer arrests him in maths! 🤬

 

[massradia1]

So you want our support for someone who performs fraud, deals in cigarettes (probably not old enough to smoke), works with stolen goods?

Find new friends. Or at least, hang around him until he's elected to higher office, and then sell his memoirs to the highest bidder.

This is the guy he sold them too.

 

[Dennisch]

I knew I wasn't the only one who did not understand the OP.

 

[Tesla]

You have to be at least 13 to sign up to most sites because of COPPA. Was the recipient of the headphones aware of them being fakes? Was there anything in writing that stated the transaction or was it just a verbal agreement?

I hardly think the police will do anything more than giving him a slap on the wrists.

EDIT: Why didn't your friend take it to the school authorities so that they could sort it out with the other kid and his parents?

 

[massradia1]

Sorry.

edit:@ tesla, nobody new they were fakes until the officer checked them.

I don't think he is talking to me because I put this on as we was been taken out

 

[ExigeEvan]

Lesson one.

Don't sell goods without assurance of being paid.

Lesson two.

Don't do business in school.

 

[massradia1]

Lesson one.

Don't sell goods without assurance of being paid.

Lesson two.

Don't do business in school.

👍

 

[1241Penguin]

Police are making a decision and school are sending the report of to the college. He has good grades and attendance. This will destroy his chances of further education!

That's his problem. Just because somebody is getting good grades doesn't mean that they should be exempt from rules.

 

[Grayfox]

Facebook matters not for the police who cares if he is under 13.

Are you telling me you never lied about your age online with those "enter DOB to continue" things for games

 

[bzking23]

honestly i dont hear him doing anything wrong intentionally, it was however a bad idea to sell that kinda stuff at school, i mean candy and stuff is cool but things that cost around $20 is just asking to get problems. The police did not have to step in, and a week suspension is way too much. Hopefully this does not harm him too much for his plans of college.

 

[Grayfox]

£20 is not the same as $20 it is more like $35.

Being fakes and the UK take copyright quite seriously the cops were involved.

Plus a schools are like an embassy's, they have their own rules which supersede the real world law.

Eg: You attack a bully in self defense cause he is going to attack you.
You get suspended for it where as in the real world this is legal.

 

[massradia1]

He has let me know that:
Police decision is still pending.
School are now deciding whether to send the report of.

 

[XS]

I think it's harsh, but I harken back to a time when the school would have just confiscated the headphones and told both parties to grow up. That being said, the other kid, in the context of your story, has not yet gotten caught selling cigarettes - your friend got caught asking for his money for something that turned out to be fake. While it sucks, nobody can do anything to the kid selling smokes because it would be unfair to him to get busted for hearsay and they have no proof of a transaction, unlike your friend. While your friend didn't know the headphones were fake, he still got caught selling them, then asking for his money in a threatening manner. I don't think your friend should be punished, best of luck to him.

 

[wfooshee]

Someone's missing the point. I don't think he's in trouble for selling the headphones, I think he's in trouble for bullying the guy to pay up, the way he's demanding the money. The authorities see harassment in that.

 

[ScouserInExile]

He has good grades and attendance. This will destroy his chances of further education!

Why would it? A lad I went to school with got expelled for smoking weed on a school trip and still went to university.

This was 20 years ago, like, but I doubt things have changed that much.

 

[massradia1]

Why would it? A lad I went to school with got expelled for smoking weed on a school trip and still went to university.

This was 20 years ago, like, but I doubt things have changed that much.

Its his last year and I'd say its a bit more serious than that.

 

[Northstar]

Its his last year and I'd say its a bit more serious than that.

How is being suspended more serious than being expelled?

I don't know what school years are there, but I don't think a college would care too much if you had 1 suspension in how ever many years high school is there.

 

[massradia1]

The college is 4th best in the country so maybe they might not accept him now.

 

[Northstar]

The college is 4th best in the country so maybe they might not accept him now.

Even if he does get rejected his chances of further education are still there, it will just be at a different college.

 

[sumbrownkid]

People got into college in weirder circumstances.

 

[massradia1]

Well, it did come as a shock to him.
Best of luck to him!

 

[Grayfox]

Do UK students pay for collage?

 

[massradia1]

No.

 

[Grayfox]

And has his parents asked why the rozzers were involved?

 

[massradia1]

They called his mom into school, police arrived and told her.

 

[cphbullet]

They called his mom into school, police arrived and told her.

His mum should have told them to get a grip. The police should be making better use of their time.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

Lesson two.

Don't do business in school.

Not always true. I make $20 a project in tech class, doing people's circuit boards (tormentor project, various circuit boards, etc). I don't get caught, and the teacher knows and doesnt mind it.