TH8 RS Shifter Thread!
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they won'tTH8 RS Games Settings:
http://ts.thrustmaster.com/eng/index.php?pg=view_files&gid=1&fid=2&pid=319&cid=12
PlayStation®3 Games:
On PlayStation®3, the TH8 RS shifter is compatible with:
- GRAN TURISMO® 5 (*)
(*) The latest available game updates must be installed (using your PlayStation®3 Internet connection) for the Thrustmaster shifter to work correctly.
(*) Compatible only with the T500 RS
(*) Compatible only with the H-pattern (7+1) shift plate
(*) Compatible only with one TH8 RS, even in 2 player mode
- Compatible with many forthcoming releases
Notes:
On PlayStation®3, when using the Thrustmaster shifter with the T500 RS racing wheel, we recommend that you connect both devices (the racing wheel in particular) directly to your PlayStation®3's USB port. However, if you are using a USB hub, connect the T500 RS racing wheel to the PlayStation®3 and the TH8 RS to the hub.
PC Games:
On PC , the TH8 RS shifter can be used with:
- All games compatible with the multi-USB feature and shifter devices:
BMW M3 Challenge,
C.A.R.S.,
Dirt®2,
Dirt®3,
Game Stock Car,
Grid,
GTR2,
GT Legends,
GTR Evolution,
iRacing,
Live for Speed,
NFS Carbon,
NFS ProStreet,
NFS Shift 1,
nKPro,
Race07,
RaceOn,
rFactor,
rFactor2,
Richard Burns Rally,
TDU,
TDU 2,
STCC® The Game
- All currently available racing wheels
* Some PC games (e.g., Dirt®3 ) require that you install the latest available game updates for the Thrustmaster shifter to work correctly.
* To avoid any conflict between the racing wheel and the shifter, some PC games may require you to proceed as follows:
- Do not allocate any features to the wheel's up/down shifters
- Define a "button pushed = gear shift" feature (e.g. in GTR Evolution or Race® On )
- Install any required plug-ins (e.g. the H Shifter Plugin in Richard Burns RALLY )
http://ts.thrustmaster.com/eng/index.php?pg=view_files&gid=1&fid=2&pid=319&cid=12
PlayStation®3 Games:
On PlayStation®3, the TH8 RS shifter is compatible with:
- GRAN TURISMO® 5 (*)
(*) The latest available game updates must be installed (using your PlayStation®3 Internet connection) for the Thrustmaster shifter to work correctly.
(*) Compatible only with the T500 RS
(*) Compatible only with the H-pattern (7+1) shift plate
(*) Compatible only with one TH8 RS, even in 2 player mode
- Compatible with many forthcoming releases
Notes:
On PlayStation®3, when using the Thrustmaster shifter with the T500 RS racing wheel, we recommend that you connect both devices (the racing wheel in particular) directly to your PlayStation®3's USB port. However, if you are using a USB hub, connect the T500 RS racing wheel to the PlayStation®3 and the TH8 RS to the hub.
PC Games:
On PC , the TH8 RS shifter can be used with:
- All games compatible with the multi-USB feature and shifter devices:
BMW M3 Challenge,
C.A.R.S.,
Dirt®2,
Dirt®3,
Game Stock Car,
Grid,
GTR2,
GT Legends,
GTR Evolution,
iRacing,
Live for Speed,
NFS Carbon,
NFS ProStreet,
NFS Shift 1,
nKPro,
Race07,
RaceOn,
rFactor,
rFactor2,
Richard Burns Rally,
TDU,
TDU 2,
STCC® The Game
- All currently available racing wheels
* Some PC games (e.g., Dirt®3 ) require that you install the latest available game updates for the Thrustmaster shifter to work correctly.
* To avoid any conflict between the racing wheel and the shifter, some PC games may require you to proceed as follows:
- Do not allocate any features to the wheel's up/down shifters
- Define a "button pushed = gear shift" feature (e.g. in GTR Evolution or Race® On )
- Install any required plug-ins (e.g. the H Shifter Plugin in Richard Burns RALLY )
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papaspursExcellent.
Pics! (or it didn't happen)
Vids!
Info!
How does it feel?
How much can you increase the resistance?
What's the sequential shift like?
Sorry all haven't figured out pics or vids yet
I will tomorrow though. The overall feel of the shifter is quite firm. The throw is smooth and there it moves easily into each gear.
The resistance can be set very firm (adjusted only from its shipped position as I found out after rotating it to my preferred left side mount
) The total rotation of the screw is only about 2mm from tightest to what I feel is too loose, so I set it at about 0.5mm from tightest which feels best for me. I have yet to try the sequential plate which will come tomorrow after I work out how to upload some images.
I'll leave my humble opinion on this here as I'm sure the OP and others will post a much more detailed review of which I am hoping happens soon for these guys as they should have received there's long ago
The TH8 gets a huge 👍 from me anyway.
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Sorry all haven't figured out pics or vids yet
The overall feel of the shifter is quite firm. The throw is smooth and there it moves easily into each gear.
The resistance can be set very firm (adjusted only from its shipped position as I found out after rotating it to my preferred left side mount
I have yet to try the sequential plate which will come tomorrow after I work out how to upload some images.
I'll leave my humble opinion on this here as I'm sure the OP and others will post a much more detailed review of which I am hoping happens soon for these guys as they should have received there's long ago
The TH8 gets a huge 👍 from me anyway.
Fantastic, thanks for the info fella. Looking forward to seeing your pics.
Very firm resistance sounds good, along with the fact that you have it set at about 75%? (If the too loose 2mm was the min)
And the left, is where shifters go.
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My thoughts exactly. Guys, there is a limit to how lazy you can be. Being too lazy will just get you ignored as the answers at that point will be very easy to find.
Anyhow great that someone got the shifter, although I don't understand one thing from Thrustmaster their distribution and release process. French people are random folk I guess. Lol
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Well its obvious that the shifter only works with the t500 (on ps3) by PD or Sonys choice. The question is, is it a Sony deccision or a PD decission? Thats what will determine if other games will support it. The shifter will clearly work as a stand alone device on ps3 and gt5. One of the two (or both) have decided not to let it happen. Im just dont understand why that is the case. Im not sure how it benifits them in any way. 
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"- Compatible with many forthcoming releases"
Seriously I cant believe the circumstances. This product has been in development for quite sometime.
Someone please explain to me how a huge company can get to this point approx 11 months since the release of the wheel and you cannot collaborate with developers like "Codemasters" that have supported the wheel to at least also have their games working with the shifter upon it's release.
We havnt a list of confirmed titles that will support the shifter or a timeframe to when more are coming that will. I would of expected at least the T500RS compatible wheel titles to offer the shifter support on release. Oh but dont worry if your a console player and T500RS owner. Just go out and buy the shifter now for GT5 and wait, then wait and then wait some more for "forthcoming releases".
Whoever works in the marketing departments of these companies seriously need to waken the hell up. It is absolute ridicolous to have this release with ZERO information on supported titles or upcoming confirmed titles other than GT5.
Well after that rant, lets see how long it takes Thrustmaster to produce a list and for further games to support this. Shame too as it looks to be a gorgeous and quality product, certainly worth the purchase. Yeah PC guys can rejoice in enjoying the wheel lucky for you guys.
If Thomas can pick himself up off the floor from laughter at this situation. Id hope Fanatec get their shifter released sooner than later they really could capitalise on this situation of very limited compatibility on consoles. You would then likely see many people jumping ship to CSW/CSRE wheels and the CSS.
Seriously I cant believe the circumstances. This product has been in development for quite sometime.
Someone please explain to me how a huge company can get to this point approx 11 months since the release of the wheel and you cannot collaborate with developers like "Codemasters" that have supported the wheel to at least also have their games working with the shifter upon it's release.
We havnt a list of confirmed titles that will support the shifter or a timeframe to when more are coming that will. I would of expected at least the T500RS compatible wheel titles to offer the shifter support on release. Oh but dont worry if your a console player and T500RS owner. Just go out and buy the shifter now for GT5 and wait, then wait and then wait some more for "forthcoming releases".
Whoever works in the marketing departments of these companies seriously need to waken the hell up. It is absolute ridicolous to have this release with ZERO information on supported titles or upcoming confirmed titles other than GT5.
Well after that rant, lets see how long it takes Thrustmaster to produce a list and for further games to support this. Shame too as it looks to be a gorgeous and quality product, certainly worth the purchase. Yeah PC guys can rejoice in enjoying the wheel lucky for you guys.
If Thomas can pick himself up off the floor from laughter at this situation. Id hope Fanatec get their shifter released sooner than later they really could capitalise on this situation of very limited compatibility on consoles. You would then likely see many people jumping ship to CSW/CSRE wheels and the CSS.
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Im with you on this one.
It most likely has something to do with the fact that gt5 is the only racing game on ps3 to support 2 controllers simultaneously.
Makes me wonder why it doesnt work with other wheels.
To me it is the way other games are developed that is limiting the shifter to gt5 only.
Mr latte: i agree completely. It seems TM marketing department is pretty clueless. Same things went on with the initial wheel release and then the utter lack of advertising for the f1 rim.
Do these guys want to sell the product?
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Mr Latte
You and I are definitely thinking the same. This kind of marketing and game support still shows that Guillemot is still a B product company like Madcatz, but that have the possibilities to make decent A class products. I hope they get their act together soon, but like you said; after a year almost of having the T500 RS on the market, the game support is still bad.
Then there is another thing that shows they are a B product company. Namely they advertised like crazy with their heart tech using magnetic sensors, but having the ClubSport pedals as rivals they still decided to use potentiometers? I wonder why as it is not a logical decision to make when making an A product. I doubt Steve Jobs would have made that decision as a perfectionist for example if he had to make a product like the T500 RS.
They can make good products and the T500 RS and TH8 RS are good, don't get me wrong. It is just that the company makes some very weird decisions that in the end gamers will dislike and disagree with. And of course above all will be disappointed by.
Therefor since I've already ordered this shifter I'll wait for it even after all this. But in the end after I've got my CSW here I definitely want to have a go at the CSS which I reckon will be supported as well as the shifter of the Logitech G25/27. At least I'll trust in Thomas to make sure it will one way or the other.
I just want some one to confirm that it will work on the PS3 with any Fanatec wheel and I will buy now
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I hope reading a huge post a page back isn't too much of an effort?
You'll find your answer there. Look for a fella named Wildrun (sounds like he's streaking a lot of info for ya)
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Either way, it is a lack of market research in what the competitors have brought forth as of yet. Cause they wouldn't have to research new ways of sensing the pedals, just find a new way to go about it. Also them not knowing better is either a lack of market research or just plain ignorance in the hope it sells well enough for them to make enough profit.
I dunno... in any case TM is clearly lacking in areas that should've been so obvious that they could and should have addressed them when they popped up. Although without a doubt it's still one of the better wheels on the market up to this point in time, except for the lack of force feedback support in certain older games. In which they could have used the generic force feedback functions to fall back upon when the wheel isn't recognized. Which could be all done in the firmware of the wheel.
Gah... the more I think and write the more things pop up into my mind. lol
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Unfortunately Thrustmaster has absolutely no control over game developers supporting their shifter. Codemasters has absolutely little incentive to patch their game to add support. Like most any console game developer, their income comes in big bursts when it 1st releases. From that point on, sales decline. To maintain a steady cash flow they have to move on quickly to the next title. I have no doubt the Dirt 3 devs are hard at work on their next masterpiece
If Dirt 3 were to add support it would be paramount to pure charity to keep the small T500rs minority happy is my guess. Would be very cool if they did it though. Keep in mind these devs are getting paid and their salaries must be compensated from someplace....
*GT5 is a different situation because this is their official wheel and I believe royalties are shared
If Dirt 3 were to add support it would be paramount to pure charity to keep the small T500rs minority happy is my guess. Would be very cool if they did it though. Keep in mind these devs are getting paid and their salaries must be compensated from someplace....
*GT5 is a different situation because this is their official wheel and I believe royalties are shared
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Seems to me like Thrustmaster got the short end of the stick with this Sony deal. Not compatiable with most ps3 games. The new shifter only for gt5 with only H shifter supported. I know more games are to follow but whats the next big racing title on ps3? Seems like Sony is taking some plays from the xbox book with exclusive wheel support. Makes me nervous on buying a new highend wheel.Might not be supported on the next console.
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Keep the small T500 RS minority happy?
Do I recall wrong or did Thrustmaster promise us that it would work with any wheel and not just the T500 RS? I reckon there are more people who would like to use this shifter with their "3rd party" wheel. So if it would be such a minority... I doubt it. Besides, programming things in a way that it would let the shifter use with any wheel takes code then actually implementing a limit to only the T500 RS.
That said, it also takes less work for PD to code GT5 in such a way that they can detect the shifter-plate switch and put their game's shifter support in sequential or H-pattern mode. Besides, they would only have to assign the up and down shift action to the shifter when in sequential mode. Which is just as hard as assigning them to the pedals of any wheel.
In the end it just boils down to politics over money again. To be honest, I wish money would just be gone cause it corrupts. But I am sure a lot will disagree with that statement. Anyway... that was a tad off-topic.
In the end the amount of work put forth into this is still minimum, which is in my opinion far too little for something that TM should be proud to promote their premium product. They want it to be superior, then they should get their act together. A product without proper support is as good as a car without spark plugs.
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