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Imo it strikes me as a track that looks like it was made on GT6 course maker. The elevation changes before a corner may be fun to watch a car squirm through but you'll never get overtaking there when the car is so unstable.
 
it strikes me as a track that looks like it was made on GT6 course maker
It definitely looks like something that was made for sim racing first and actual racing second. The perimeter isn't too bad - it feels like a cross between Magny-Cours and Imola - even if the chicane on the crest is awkward (especially so close to pit entry), but the infield section around the lake is very Caesars' Palace.
 
There is a effort to steal the Long Beach GP away from Indycar too. I believe there is a vote coming in July by the LB city council.
 
Chinese and Singaporean Grands Prix are both listed as "Provisional" for 2018 in the absence of renewed agreement with F1's new owners.

Paul Ricard (French GP) is back on the calendar. BBC.

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Singapore > Russia > Japan seems like a stupid thing. Why not lump Russia in with Azerbaijan.
My guess is logistics. The teams will send out two lots of gear. One will be sent from Italy to Russia, while the other will go direct to Singapore. After Singapore, that gear will be sent on to Japan while the teams go on to Russia. After Russia, that gear will be retired for the season and sent back to the factory.

Or better, scrap them both?
Because of the contracts.
 
Why don't they put Canada after Japan before US. That way they have the three North American GPs in one trip. Would make sense travel-wise for teams.
 
Why don't they put Canada after Japan before US. That way they have the three North American GPs in one trip. Would make sense travel-wise for teams.

Firstly it depends on availability. Secondly it doesn't really matter where a team goes - outside Europe they leave a track, get on a plane, get off a plane, go to a track (sometimes they return home in between). It makes little difference if those tracks are in a particular arbitrary order or none at all.
 
They're trying to make it like NASCAR (which only works when you only race within one country) but really NASCAR should be more like F1, 25-ish races, one race per track.

Wouldn't be surprised if they propose adding a playoff system to F1 :ill:
 
Some interesting moves and notes. Sad to see Paul Ricard chosen for France...what a boring, terrible track. Sad to see COTA once again in use, thought this was the last planned year for that circuit.

Baku moves earlier in the season. Nice to see Austria's resurgence. Hope it stays as it's a damn fun track.

Abu Dhabi looks to be cementing its place as the "last" race of the season. No Korea (thankfully), No India (meh), what else got the boot?
 
They're trying to make it like NASCAR (which only works when you only race within one country) but really NASCAR should be more like F1, 25-ish races, one race per track.

Wouldn't be surprised if they propose adding a playoff system to F1 :ill:

Where do you get this idea that Liberty media are actively trying to "make it like Nascar" just because an idea they think is was floated around? Adding more races is hardly a "NASCAR" only idea.

Some interesting moves and notes. Sad to see Paul Ricard chosen for France...what a boring, terrible track. Sad to see COTA once again in use, thought this was the last planned year for that circuit.

As the only purpose built Grade 1 facility In the US, what else could they have used?
 
Anywhere else would have been fine. COTA sucks. I hope it loses the US Gran Prix status in the future.

Problem with that thought is as I mentioned, Its the only Purpose built Grade 1 circuit in the US that can host F1. Literally "Anywhere Else" in the US is not certified to host a F1 race. The moment COTA loses the USGP is the moment the US doesn't have a GP, period.
 
Problem with that thought is as I mentioned, Its the only Purpose built Grade 1 circuit in the US that can host F1. Literally "Anywhere Else" in the US is not certified to host a F1 race. The moment COTA loses the USGP is the moment the US doesn't have a GP, period.
You realize that the certification process consists entirely on giving money to the FIA? There are plenty of tracks in the US that could host a race, it's just a question of them being able to get enough people to attend to make it viable.
 
You realize that the certification process consists entirely on giving money to the FIA? There are plenty of tracks in the US that could host a race, it's just a question of them being able to get enough people to attend to make it viable.

The way I understand it, tracks have to be a certain grade to host a Formula 1 one race though so even if those tracks have enough money to give to the FIA, they would have to undergo extensive transformations just to even be certified (certain length, runoff, etc). In their current state for example, Road America and Watkins Glen would not be able to host a F1 race because neither are Grade 1. Even with Watkens Glen's recent repave, its only at Grade 2 and it would require them to completely rebuilt the pit and facilities as part of being Grade 1. Road America would basically have to be completely redesigned and is more then likely not gonna look anything like it use to be.
 
Indianapolis has a Grade 1 certificate. But in the US, surely a street circuit can be built up to scratch easily (well, unless it's in New Jersey)
 
I'd love to see Road America being used for the US Grand Prix. Great track which should be suitable for F1. FIA could even mitigate The Kink (which would be a shame) with simply using the chicane beforehand, if they would feel like it would be to dangerous otherwise.
 

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