The Cadillac thread
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I think it actually looks quite good. Maybach esque!
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Nice Jag 👍
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They killed off a lot of personality that marque has and made it kinda generic, they have done a Lincoln which is a shame. It's not instantly recognisable as a Caddilac whereas the previous angular stealth jet design language which has been going on for over a decade really stood out. Really does look like a slightly less curvy XJ.
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That interior is lovely IMO. Love the grey material they use.
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Looks like a Citroen. Much preferred the El Miraj & Ciel.
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I'd love to know more about that 4.2TT V8 they've got in there. I'd imagine it is "production based," but whether that would indicate it being based on that corporate 3.6L V6 or a clean sheet design, well, who knows.
Still, a promising design based on the rather attractive CT6. I'd be willing to bet we get an A7-like CT6 sooner than later, and then this design language starts to fill in over the next few years. The new grille works much better with the new badge (which I still don't like), and will likely look pretty good on all of the current models.
Still, a promising design based on the rather attractive CT6. I'd be willing to bet we get an A7-like CT6 sooner than later, and then this design language starts to fill in over the next few years. The new grille works much better with the new badge (which I still don't like), and will likely look pretty good on all of the current models.
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I quite like it, still retains what we see in the current top models and even lower trims and just makes it more simplistic. The only notable things are the obvious take away from other cars, the headlights clearly scream Aston concept/limited production cars, back end is jaguar in like. However, it still mostly seems to be what Cadillac have been aiming at for the past decade.
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Well, the head of Cadillac spilled the beans on what they're planning to do:
The writing has largely been on the wall for a lot of this for a while now. I'm surprised they're already planning on replacing the ATS and adding a smaller CLA-type model, but then again, it isn't as though the ATS has set sales records on fire. A smaller luxury sedan could be interesting, but diving into the parts bin doesn't entirely inspire confidence at this point - I just don't think the Delta and Epsilon chassis are good enough to make a competitive sedan at this point.
Big Cadillac flagship that isn't a sedan leads to three possible conclusions:
The writing has largely been on the wall for a lot of this for a while now. I'm surprised they're already planning on replacing the ATS and adding a smaller CLA-type model, but then again, it isn't as though the ATS has set sales records on fire. A smaller luxury sedan could be interesting, but diving into the parts bin doesn't entirely inspire confidence at this point - I just don't think the Delta and Epsilon chassis are good enough to make a competitive sedan at this point.
Big Cadillac flagship that isn't a sedan leads to three possible conclusions:
- Yet another all-new Escalade, which has arguably been the flagship since the late '90s
- Escala becomes the CT7/CT8, or they use a real name, to take on the S-Class Coupe
- We get another Corvette-based sports car at the top of the food chain
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That doesn't make any sense, because a lot of BMW owners thought their cars were FWD in a survey. The majority of people who buy those luxury cars do not care what wheels are driven.
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That badge is going to hovering above the car via electromagnetics by 2025.
I sent a scathing email about badge placement to Cadillac recently after I saw a new SRX on the road. I asked them if their designers had heard of basic design principles such as the 2/3 rule. Putting the badge 7/9 of the way up the grille just doesn't work by any design measure, objective or subjective. I honestly don't know how they think it looks right to do that. If this Escala's badge was the goal - to use it as a border element or to mirror the shape of the grille itself - then why the hell didn't they just do that to begin with? Why did we have to witness the badge migrate hilariously as if it truly were alive and trying to find its place in the world?
As for the car: It's the most boring thing Cadillac has created in years. The exterior looks almost production ready so you can expect a car to look just like this but the Ciel and Elmiraj both had more imposing, classic design elements. I personally think the vertical headlights mirroring the famous vertical tail lights is the best design feature of any of the new cars. It's totally unique, not copied from anybody, modern and interesting, yet clearly a throwback to their heritage. Unfortunately, customers apparently don't see it that way, mostly because they have no idea what they're looking at most of time.
EDIT: I like it, I just think they've done better before. Only thing I would *really* change is the greenhouse. The round greenhouse just doesn't go with the chiseled body at all. This is not an Audi - Cadillacs of this chiseled era should have trapezoidal greenhouses.
I sent a scathing email about badge placement to Cadillac recently after I saw a new SRX on the road. I asked them if their designers had heard of basic design principles such as the 2/3 rule. Putting the badge 7/9 of the way up the grille just doesn't work by any design measure, objective or subjective. I honestly don't know how they think it looks right to do that. If this Escala's badge was the goal - to use it as a border element or to mirror the shape of the grille itself - then why the hell didn't they just do that to begin with? Why did we have to witness the badge migrate hilariously as if it truly were alive and trying to find its place in the world?
As for the car: It's the most boring thing Cadillac has created in years. The exterior looks almost production ready so you can expect a car to look just like this but the Ciel and Elmiraj both had more imposing, classic design elements. I personally think the vertical headlights mirroring the famous vertical tail lights is the best design feature of any of the new cars. It's totally unique, not copied from anybody, modern and interesting, yet clearly a throwback to their heritage. Unfortunately, customers apparently don't see it that way, mostly because they have no idea what they're looking at most of time.
EDIT: I like it, I just think they've done better before. Only thing I would *really* change is the greenhouse. The round greenhouse just doesn't go with the chiseled body at all. This is not an Audi - Cadillacs of this chiseled era should have trapezoidal greenhouses.
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