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The Dark Knight gets a sequel - The Dark Knight Rises!
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Here's what I reckon will happen:
But that's just how I'd do it.
Marion Cotillard will play Talia al Ghul, and the scenes featuring Pence will actually be her memories of her father (and in a fresh way of doing things, there won't be a child actor in the role of Talia - because they are her memories, the adult Talia would appear in them to show them from her perspective). In BEGINS, Ra's says that he once had a wife and daughter, and that they were "taken from him". I'm willing to bet that we'll see some of that, and that he will be considerably less innocent in the whole affair than he made out (people, after all, have a way of remembering things with them as the victim, even - and especially so - when they are at fault).
Talia won't actually be in the League of Shadows. Indeed, she will have no idea that they even exist. But while Batman is off in hiding, she starts seeing a psychiatrist, Hugo Strange, who starts digging up her memories. He may also appear in these flashbacks, observing alongside Talia. Ostensibly, he is trying to help her. In reality, he is trying to find the League and use them to flush Batman out. he plays on Talia's childhood memories, prompting her to see out the League of Shadows. The remnants of the League rally to her as she is Ra's daughter, and with Strange as their "advisor", they head to Gotham.
Somewhere along the way, they find Bane. He would be a creation of Strange and Talia, a brute who was trained by the League and set loose on the streets as "Batman". Strange is trying to prove that anyone can be Batman; it's just a question of circumstance. The whole film would be pitched backwards, with Bane as the initial threat, ultiamtely revealed to be a puppet of Strange and Talia. Talia's memories would show that her father was never a hypocrite and was only trying to do right by her (and ultimately succeeding). But because at least one character in each Nolan film is essentially a tragic figure, she would never get the opportunity to reconcile her memories, as Strange would have long since corrupted them.
Talia won't actually be in the League of Shadows. Indeed, she will have no idea that they even exist. But while Batman is off in hiding, she starts seeing a psychiatrist, Hugo Strange, who starts digging up her memories. He may also appear in these flashbacks, observing alongside Talia. Ostensibly, he is trying to help her. In reality, he is trying to find the League and use them to flush Batman out. he plays on Talia's childhood memories, prompting her to see out the League of Shadows. The remnants of the League rally to her as she is Ra's daughter, and with Strange as their "advisor", they head to Gotham.
Somewhere along the way, they find Bane. He would be a creation of Strange and Talia, a brute who was trained by the League and set loose on the streets as "Batman". Strange is trying to prove that anyone can be Batman; it's just a question of circumstance. The whole film would be pitched backwards, with Bane as the initial threat, ultiamtely revealed to be a puppet of Strange and Talia. Talia's memories would show that her father was never a hypocrite and was only trying to do right by her (and ultimately succeeding). But because at least one character in each Nolan film is essentially a tragic figure, she would never get the opportunity to reconcile her memories, as Strange would have long since corrupted them.
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Well, Joseph Gordon-Leavitt and Marion Cotillard have been confirmed for RISES. And not in the roles people thought they would take.
A lot of people, however, have assumed that this is all a ruse, a deliberate misinformation campaign started by Nolan to cover up the fact that Gordon-Leavitt and Cotillard will be playing Alberto Falcone and Talia al Ghul respectively. However, I don't think this is a false flag. Nolan has no reason to lie, and most of the talk about this being misdirection seems to be born out of people wanting those characters to appear rather than out of any solid evidence that they are.
Both of them will play new characters - Gordon-Leavitt is John Blake, a Gotham City beat cop (with a name like "John Blake", what else was he possibly going to be?) who gets promoted to a special duty under Jim Gordon's direct command. Sounds like he's going to be point man in the search for Batman.
Cotillard, on the other hand, will play Miranda Tate. She's a member of Wayne Enterprises's executive board who is trying to help Bruce Wayne continue his father's philanthropy as a way to deal with his grief.
Cotillard, on the other hand, will play Miranda Tate. She's a member of Wayne Enterprises's executive board who is trying to help Bruce Wayne continue his father's philanthropy as a way to deal with his grief.
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Blimey, let's hope the sequel isn't as bloated and self-important as Dark Knight.
The post-modern processing was wonderful, the sets and set-pieces were as jaw dropping as you'd expect, the majority of the acting was top-rate... but the film needed the flab trimming away in chunks.
The post-modern processing was wonderful, the sets and set-pieces were as jaw dropping as you'd expect, the majority of the acting was top-rate... but the film needed the flab trimming away in chunks.
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Point out one scene that could have been removed without affecting the narrative.
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A lot of people argue that the entire Hong Kong subplot with Mr. Lau could be cut, but I think that would seriously compromise the narrative. The entire point of it is to display Batman's complacency in going after the mob - it never occurs to him that his actions could give way to a greater evil than the one he has been fighting. And without the Hong Kong stuff, it would have been very difficult to introduce the Joker. He's a man that the mob would not normally deal with, and his very presences make some of them (notably Maroni) uncomfortable. They only turned to him because of Batman's actions in capturing Lau, and so without that sequence, they would have no reason to ally themselves with the Joker.
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That's defaintely Bane. The image of Catwoman is believed to be a fake.
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Which Catwoman pic? I must be missing it.
On The Dark Knight, I agree that I grew tired of hearing about how the city needs a white knight to stand up for the people. But the simple fact is that people do go on and on and on about things of that nature when they are passionate about it. It was realistic and fitting, but in real life I also want to say, "We get it!"
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If you go to http://www.thedarkknightrises.com/image.html, the image that quickly fades out is this one, although at quick glance it looks to only be avatars. Still a bit interesting.
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I believe I remember hearing that the Catwoman image was from the traveling arena show that is touring in the UK and Ireland right now.
I personally find this version of Bane to be interesting, and I'm very curious to see how Nolan handles him within this gritty and realistic universe.
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It's Bane.
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In the background? I am asking if the glinting thing to the left of Bane is supposed to be a cat's eye.
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It could well indeed be a jail cell. Although knowing Nolan, I wouldn't say it's strictly in the Carribean. He was in Romania for location scouting a while ago, and one of the sites that he was apparently very impressed with was a salt mine. Speculation placed it as being either the new Batcave, or Bane's prison. Which would make sense; that mask could easily be some kind of breathing apparatus. I can't imagine a more-hellish place than a Romanian salt mine.
Poster is up,just awesome:
I pretty much know that it will be fantastic,most of the cast and crew from the dark night will be included,and its batman with the style that it needed.
Having said that,there is something else,a trailer at the end of Harry Potter the Deathly Hallows Part 2(on theatres obviously) is expected,looking forward to it.
I pretty much know that it will be fantastic,most of the cast and crew from the dark night will be included,and its batman with the style that it needed.
Having said that,there is something else,a trailer at the end of Harry Potter the Deathly Hallows Part 2(on theatres obviously) is expected,looking forward to it.
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I think I said this in the build-up to THE DARK KNIGHT (and possibly TRANSFORMERS: DARK OF THE MOON) - this is how you make a film poster.
Argh, DEATHLY HALLOWS PART II is already here in Australia!
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That poster is the business.
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Must ... not ... analyse ... symbolism ... in ... poster ... !
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Teaser trailer online. Will likely be removed in the very immediate future. The description of the trailer leaked yesterday is accurate:
The teaser appears to be making two points: first of all, it's going full circle. Nolan has said it's a call-back to the events of BATMAN BEGINS, and most of the first half of the trailer shows as much, with footage from the film intercut with Ra's al Ghul describing how Bruce can rise above being flesh and bone to become a legend.
The second act shows that Batman has retreated from the public view. Most of it is a shot of Jim Gordon in a hospital bed, though it's not clear if he's sick or injured. Given that he is struggling to speak and his position, I'd say he's ill. Bruce Wayne is also present, but off-camera. It looks like Bruce has lost his faith in Batman's ability to be a force for good, but Gordon insists Batman has to exist.
The third and final act is very short, and mostly consists of the film logo. And unlike the usual white-text-on-black-background that Nolan has used, there is black text on a white title card. Evidently, redemption is a major theme here. There's also limited footage of Bane - an out-of-focus shot that sharpens up, and at the end, Bane and a very tired-looking Batman squaring off. The trailer ends with that chanting from #TheFireRises, but the more I hear it, the more I doubt it is some kind of ritual to resurrect someone with a Lazarus Pit. It sounds more like the kind of cheering you'd hear at a football game or in a prison, and we know both feature in the film.
The second act shows that Batman has retreated from the public view. Most of it is a shot of Jim Gordon in a hospital bed, though it's not clear if he's sick or injured. Given that he is struggling to speak and his position, I'd say he's ill. Bruce Wayne is also present, but off-camera. It looks like Bruce has lost his faith in Batman's ability to be a force for good, but Gordon insists Batman has to exist.
The third and final act is very short, and mostly consists of the film logo. And unlike the usual white-text-on-black-background that Nolan has used, there is black text on a white title card. Evidently, redemption is a major theme here. There's also limited footage of Bane - an out-of-focus shot that sharpens up, and at the end, Bane and a very tired-looking Batman squaring off. The trailer ends with that chanting from #TheFireRises, but the more I hear it, the more I doubt it is some kind of ritual to resurrect someone with a Lazarus Pit. It sounds more like the kind of cheering you'd hear at a football game or in a prison, and we know both feature in the film.
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If you search "dark knight rises" in youtube and sort the results by upload date. Look out for a video with a guy wearing one of those oxygen masks like the picture shown in my youtube link. If the video is less than an hour old it probably hasn't been deleted yet.
Apparently the trailer isn't meant to be shown till Friday in the US and has been encrypsted. Not sure what the situation is in other countries as in Australia Harry Potter 8 is already out. Though friend of mine who saw it today said that neither Batman or Sherlock Holmes 2 trailers were shown at her screening. Both of which are meant to be shown when HP8 premiers on Friday in the US.
Apparently the trailer isn't meant to be shown till Friday in the US and has been encrypsted. Not sure what the situation is in other countries as in Australia Harry Potter 8 is already out. Though friend of mine who saw it today said that neither Batman or Sherlock Holmes 2 trailers were shown at her screening. Both of which are meant to be shown when HP8 premiers on Friday in the US.
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Just saw it. I like how it's tying everything together.
I just need to see a clear(er) version of it now.
Get it while it's hot!
I just need to see a clear(er) version of it now.
Get it while it's hot!
