The Dark Knight gets a sequel - The Dark Knight Rises!

BEST MOVIE EVER!!! 9.5/10! I dont wanna tell more dont wanna spoil things.
 
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prisonermonkeys
There is one returning character who gets the best line in the film, and his self-satisfied smirk at being able to deliver a joke is what makes the delivery so good. I won't spoil it, but you'll know it when you see and hear it.
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Everyone in the theater got that line...it was a good line 👍

Tzun
FAIL
*SPOILER*
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:ouch: ooops!

It was a good movie! I would have liked to see more in the end though!
Could not even tell the movie was almost 3 hours it just flowed very well.
 
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Insanely brilliant film. One of the best I've ever seen, certainly the best I've seen in any cinema. Inspired performances from everyone, and the film was just breathtaking throughout, capturing the magic of the Batman universe. I was hoping for an ending that topped off the trilogy in such a satisfying way, and it didn't disappoint.

Bane especially is one of the most villainous individuals I've ever seen in a film, but his story shows there is more to it, just like the comics. There were flaws, yes, but they do nothing to take away from the experience. If you have money and sense, you will got to your local cinema asap and watch this film. Utterly amazing.
 
Will be watching it on Monday hopefully, see how it compares to Spiderman as that's the only thing fresh in my memory at the moment.:dopey:
 
Tzun
I dont know the tags! All you guys its your fault that you read thread like this.
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It's not. Look at biffy's post. That's the kind of post I was expecting. If you want another opinion on this one, try contacting a member of staff.
 
prisonermonkeys
There is one returning character who gets the best line in the film, and his self-satisfied smirk at being able to deliver a joke is what makes the delivery so good. I won't spoil it, but you'll know it when you see and hear it.
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PM me the line, please - I can't think of it, and I've seen it three times already :lol:
 
Meh. Utterly predictable film. I enjoyed the build up but the climax was pretty poor..which in turn makes the build up feel like a complete waste.
The most interesting parts of this film felt like they were only lightly touched upon, presumably because it was felt Batman Begins did all that already.

Not really sure why people trying to avoid spoilers are viewing a forum thread about the film when its been released...
 
So are you trying to say that you've never opened a movie thread or a game thread shortly after release to see what the general consensus was?
 
F1 fan
So are you trying to say that you've never opened a movie thread or a game thread shortly after release to see what the general consensus was?
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I really never do because if i do i will open the spoiler tags its just too big temptation. So i try to avoid them.
 
I enjoyed it, but it's been years since I've watched the first installment into the series so some of the references I didn't catch.
 
F1 fan
So are you trying to say that you've never opened a movie thread or a game thread shortly after release to see what the general consensus was?
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If I don't want things spoiled, no. Its common sense.
And if I really care a lot about it, I pretty much avoid the internet.

You can't expect people not to talk about it just because you've not seen it and then expect to view a thread on the very topic with no spoilers or all of it hidden with spoiler tags. What if you don't see it for a month? Are we still not allowed to talk openly without having to tag everything for a whole month?

People make mistakes, and they are not really silly mistakes considering this is the thread for talking about the film.
 
Ardius
You can't expect people not to talk about it just because you've not seen it and then expect to view a thread on the very topic with no spoilers or all of it hidden with spoiler tags. What if you don't see it for a month? Are we still not allowed to talk openly without having to tag everything for a whole month?
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No, but the fact is that a big spoiler was posted with no spoiler tags less than twenty four hours after release. Normally, people play ball with this kind of thing, but that was just too soon. As a matter of fact, I'd just walked past my local cinema a few hours before reading that post and they weren't even showing it yet. There have been countless other movie/game threads on GTP where people managed to get by without having the film/game ruined for them. Sure, in one month talk about it. But less than twenty four hours after release? Spoiler tag it.

Take for example the Skyrim thread. For a long time after release, that thread was pretty safe in terms of spoilers. With the exception of one person that let out a massive spoiler in the first few days. Just about everyone who posted in that thread was ****** off. I have been looking forward to the dark knight rises and had even gone so far as to completely ignore trailers and articles revealing plot details. I opened the thread looking for a couple of spoiler free comments (which were plentiful) only to have a major plot point spoiled because someone didn't even know how to use spoiler tags. Why even post it at all? Then he edits it out and apologizes, then changes his mind and says it's my fault?

Ardius
People make mistakes, and they are not really silly mistakes considering this is the thread for talking about the film.
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I have been using forums for over twelve years now. Be it IGN, Gibson guitars, my les paul or gtplanet, this kind of incident is unusual. Normally, people have a little courtesy. I remember on IGN, after the release of MGS2, (which was released in North America more than 6 months before europe) I opened the thread to see a ton of spoiler tags. I simply asked "How is it", got a few spoiler free comments and that was it. In my twelve years on forums, I've only had a few things like this spoiled for me, so I assumed it was safe. I know I wasn't the only person caught out by his spoiler. And you obviously agree to some extent or you wouldn't be using the spoiler tags yourself.

Must we always have to debate what is right and wrong here on Gtplanet? I think it's common sense not to give something away so soon and judging by the response I got talking about this in the infield, I think it's safe to say most agree with me.
 
Atrocious movie... Go to the other thread regarding Batman, do get a more detailed reason for why it sucked (includes spoilers)...
 
prisonermonkeys
I think THE DARK KNIGHT is as close as you could come to a perfect film, or at least a perfect superhero film.

In order to understand why, you have to look back at what Tim Burton did wrong with BATMAN RETURNS.

Firstly, he used the Joker for the first film. There wasn't much of a way around that, since it was the first film in the Batman franchise, and you really have to go all-in with the frst film to make it viable. So they had to use the Joker as the series' most-iconic character, and when it came time to do RETURNS, they didn't have much to go with. Nolan got away with using Ra's al Ghul and the Scarecrow in BATMAN BEGINS, because by 2005, Batman films were already ingrained into popular culture.

But more importantly, there is no story in RETURNS. The Penguin plans to frame Batman for a crime that he did not commit, but this is a serious problem because the ending is already decided: no matter what happens, Batman will find the evidence he needs to exonerate himself. I first came to that conclusion when I was six and saw the trailer to the film.

THE DARK KNIGHT, on the other hand, created a story where there was the possibility that Batman could not continue - and as THE DARK KNIGHT RISES establishes, Batman was not seen for eight years after the death of Harvey Dent. Christopher Nolan understood that you don't have the villain frame the hero. You have the villain take away everything he loves, everything he fights for, everything he represents, lower him down to the villain's level and see what he does next, which is precisely what the Joker does. Batman was created as a symbol to protect Gotham. The Joker understood this, and decided to prove that there was a man underneath it all, and that that man was like any other - filled with his own prejudices and values and emotions. He killed Rachel Dawes, brought terror to Gotham, lured people into doing things that they never would have done otherwise in an attempt to prove that they weren't worth saving or couldn't be saved to begin with. And finally, he tried to make Batman kill him (the only sure way to stop him), thereby breaking Batman's one rule and lowering him to the Joker's level so that even if the Joker was dead and buried, Bruce Wayne could never be Batman again. That's why the Joker was laughing instead of screaming as he fell off the tower, and why he was so impressed with Batman when he reeled the Joker back up. And then he forced Batman into a position where he had to make the city believe he was a killer anyway.

Compare that to BATMAN RETURNS, where the Penguin simply wants to frame Batman. THE DARK KNIGHT was much more interesting, and much more complex in its characterisation - and that's always a good thing.


It's not as good as THE DARK KNIGHT, but it's no slouch.

Personally, I think it fits in very well with the rest of the Nolan trilogy. Most of the returning characters feel like they're eight years older than when we last met them, and act accordingly, and the newer characters fit in, even if there are a few too many and one in particular gets an exposition dump early on. Some of the plot elements are a little unnecessary, and only really serve as a vehicle for the themes - the film isn't particularly subtle in showing the audience what the stakes are, which is a shame because it does overshadow some of the more-interesting aspects of the plot. Story-wise, it might be a bit confusing to begin with, but I think Nolan was still in INCEPTION mode, laying multiple plot threads that all spring together about halfway through, like a tightly-wound trap. By the end of the film,you might have forgetten some of the finer points that are laid down early on, though. Unfortuantely, the film does gloss over a few elements that it could have explored a little better.

As for the performances, I think pretty much everyone is dead on. I'm not that familiar with every interpretation of every character in the comics, but I did feel that Tom Hardy and Anne Hathaway really got into the swing of things. Bane might not be as interesting as the Joker, but I loved the way Hardy made him very eloquent in his speech and utterly brutal in his fighting. History will probably remember him as being a little trapped in Heath Ledger's shadow, but if he had played Bane before Ledger was the Joker, hsitory would probably be a little more complimentary. As for Anne Hathaway, I think she was let down by the script dragging her character back to a few standardised tropes, and she does very well, but when it relaxes is when she really gets to stretch her legs. Her Selina Kyle is definately my kind of girl, so long as she doesn't take my watch.

I know Nolan takes a lot of flak for not being able to do humour very well, but I think humour would really ruin it. The actors play the humour best when the themes are relaxed, and they clearly have a lot of fun with those scenes. There is one returning character who gets the best line in the film, and his self-satisfied smirk at being able to deliver a joke is what makes the delivery so good. I won't spoil it, but you'll know it when you see and hear it. Personally, I think it would have been a mistake to make this an overly-funny film. It would have taken away from the themes, and probably would have been seen as imitating THE AVENGERS, even if they had similar production windows. It's not laugh-out-loud funny, but there are a few lines that make you crack a smile.

Overall, I think the film works quite well. it fits in with the rest of the trilogy, and is probably the natural extension of the story. There are a few flaws, but by the end, it's very well executed. It ties everything off in such a way that Nolan and Bale can leave the series, but the films can continue in the same universe and allow for a new director and a new style. The big question are whether or not the studios will be willing to keep going, and if so, who they will get to replace Nolan. If talk is to be believed, Nolan will still be involved in the production, so if the studios do decide to continue with the Nolanverse, he'll at least be able to guide the boat a little bit.
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I agree with everything in your review especially the part I put in bold. I thought this was a good movie but just doesnt quite live up to The Dark Night. The rest of everything I was going to say, you already covered.
 
I gave a much fuller and detailed review in the spoilerific thread.

Go see this film if you liked the previous two. It isn't the best but it is great entertainment. There were some things that I nit pick but Nolan does such a great presentation that I am able to forgive most of it and many people won't even notice. It does avoid all that we must be above corruption droning that The Dark Knight hashed over about ten times.

Ultimately, I'm giving this a 9/10. Most issues are forgivable but some are always on screen or at the heart of the story.

I don't think I'll see it in theaters again, but I will be buying the Blu-Ray.
 
Yeah I agree with all of that, except I think I like Batman Begins the most, as Batman is more the hunter than the hunted, unlike the vibe I get from the sequels, also, I didn't like Rachel Daws being replaced in TDK, but that's Katie Holmes' fault for signing to do some rubbish film instead at the time.

A nitpick I may have with the film is the agent not shooting Bane on the plane when he had the chance, but the film would've only been 10 mins long if that had happened, it's just that the agent just seemed to be doing the whole 'wasting time while achieving nothing' thing.

I only understood half of what bane said, but I don't think I missed anything important.
WaffleGarbleGooble!

Was good to see more of the bike doing it's trick with the wheels in DKR, I love that.

DKR is a bit messy, but I think I'd watch it again because there were enough good bits in it, including one good clean-cut beatdown scene in an alleyway getting towards the end, the film really needed that.
 
RTSolvalou
A nitpick I may have with the film is the agent not shooting Bane on the plane when he had the chance, but the film would've only been 10 mins long if that had happened, it's just that the agent just seemed to be doing the whole 'wasting time while achieving nothing' thing.
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Based on the agent's dialogue, he's too cocky and doesn't really understand who he is dealing with. He clearly thinks he has the upper hand when Bane practically offers himself on a silver platter, and it never crosses his mind that Bane planned everything, much less that he would stage a heist the way he did.
 

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