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The Earth is Flat?
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It has everything to do with Geology. They are making wild claims of a flat Earth which essentially means everything I have learned in 6 years of study is fake.
If the Earth is flat, we have no idea how anything works, all our established data is wrong.
Hell it breaks physics too.
They might not mention Geology, but when a FEer speaks, they are essentially calling me and everyone in my entire profession idiots and liars I cannot and will not allow that to happen.
Its always about geology.
So @WhiteFlight1. You're skeptical of a round Earth correct? Now that I have provided some established data
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/the-earth-is-flat.369600/page-34#post-12395372
do you understand why a flat Earth doesn't work? Or do you have any questions?
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Dotini
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Geology and geophysics are of great interest to me. My father was a geologist, my best friend has two degrees in geology, I've studied geology in college, and I own and read geology books. I've climbed to see the view from 20,000 ft in the Peruvian Andes. In short, I have nothing but the highest admiration for geology, albeit uniformitarianism got it bogged down for awhile.
But you are not to take flat-earthism seriously. It's a joke, merely a free speech issue, a narcissism of idle minds and lazy feet.
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Maybe the users here are, but not all FEers are joking. People love conspiracy theories and some people really buy into them.
People buy into it, and they spread their lies to others. Before you know it, you've dropped the collective IQ of your people.
FEers, Anti-vaxxers, Climate change deniers and other similar groups put us at risk of making our society stupid. They ignore scientific facts based on their own uneducated opinions.
Dotini
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IQ probably is a function of genetics and not culture. If people willfully go about ignoring reality, it can and will bite them in the ass. Not to worry.
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I checked this guy out and he theorises that there may indeed be a genetic component to intelligence, while thankfully not providing support for scientific racism. Most of it went over my head though, hopefully not due to my having any stupid ancestors.IQ probably is a function of genetics and not culture. If people willfully go about ignoring reality, it can and will bite them in the ass. Not to worry.
http://www.wiringthebrain.com/2012/07/genetics-of-stupidity.html
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Apparently it's not whether you believe Earth is round or flat, but whether or not you're strong and/or smart enough to exert your right to free speech. Apparently your claiming to believe in a round (well, oblate spheroid) Earth makes you weak and stupid.
Bear in mind I'm not actually calling you either of those things.
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I don't get it.Apparently it's not whether you believe Earth is round or flat, but whether or not you're strong and/or smart enough to exert your right to free speech. Apparently your claiming to believe in a round (well, oblate spheroid) Earth makes you weak and stupid.
Bear in mind I'm not actually calling you either of those things.
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Yup. Mmhmm. Dang ol', like, yeah...
Where did I say it was or wasn't a movement, and where did I say it was or wasn't labeled a movement?
That's what I said, and I think the assertion that that's all it is is ridiculous. Sure, people are indeed exercising their right to free speech, but I don't believe FE is merely a means to do that.
Oh, by the way, what you're doing right now, this speaking for others whose position on the current subject you happen to share...that...well you've very recently referred to the convention disparagingly as "white knighting." I just thought I'd point that out.
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And that's probably not practical. What other observation could you make that would be different depending on whether the earth was flat or not?
That's not true, at least not of the way we currently test IQ. Take two identical twins, put one of them through basic education for twelve years and let the other one suck on the corner of the rug at home. The one with some basic education will do better on an IQ test than the rug-sucker.
There is a genetic component, but culture and education have a major effect on how people think. And how you approach problem solving and the general types of problem solving experience you have has an effect on an IQ test.
It has it's uses, one just has to be aware what it is that's being measured. Calling it "intelligence" is a bit of an over-reach. It's mostly just a specific type of problem solving and pattern recognition skills.
The result can also change wildly depending on how you are doing/feeling at the time. I was IQ tested throughout my childhood, largely to do with my dyslexia and having to show that I wasn't simple (literally). My IQ scored from being in the 10% of the country to just being above average. The only major thing that changed was my social situation and how I viewed life.
Sorry to veer off-topic but I just wanted to add that
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Yep.
My 11 year old received his first laptop Sunday.
Last night he got upset about something, threw himself on his bed and said it doesn't matter we're all going to die anyway when Planet X destroys the earth soon.
Where did you hear that?
The internet told me.
Jesus Christ.
So I told him the internet told me the earth is a flat disc so it'll probably miss us... We're good.
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The result can also change wildly depending on how you are doing/feeling at the time. I was IQ tested throughout my childhood, largely to do with my dyslexia and having to show that I wasn't simple (literally). My IQ scored from being in the 10% of the country to just being above average. The only major thing that changed was my social situation and how I viewed life.
Sorry to veer off-topic but I just wanted to add that
Correct. The test isn't super accurate to begin with, particularly as you get away from the average. You can take two tests in a row and get decent variation in the results. And as you say, because it's testing your ability to think in a certain way there's any number of factors that can impact that.
One could probably go from 130+ to sub-70 simply by chugging a case of beer. It's hard to pass a test when you can't focus on the page...
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My son is 25 and he missed out on the social media/YT nonsense in his youth. I can't even imagine what it must be like trying to raise a child into adulthood these days. Half the parents I know buy into a lot of nonsense themselves so I'm not sure how they can possibly help their children sort out the cacophany of "information" anyway. I have a niece that just turned 13. Last year she got her first phone. I had a talk with her and asked her to promise me/pinky swear/cross her heart/swear on a stack of bibles, not to turn into a phone zombie. I failed!!
. This is a teaching opportunity for you, I hope you capitalized on it:tup:👍
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It's kinda funny how the FEers have gone quiet since actual scientific data was dropped on this topic...
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My son is 25 and he missed out on the social media/YT nonsense in his youth. I can't even imagine what it must be like trying to raise a child into adulthood these days. Half the parents I know buy into a lot of nonsense themselves so I'm not sure how they can possibly help their children sort out the cacophany of "information" anyway. I have a niece that just turned 13. Last year she got her first phone. I had a talk with her and asked her to promise me/pinky swear/cross her heart/swear on a stack of bibles, not to turn into a phone zombie. I failed!!
I think there is also an opportunity when children show great interest in something. I remember when there was growing concern over kids playing video games and sitting at computers. I saw a lot of effort made to pry them away from these devices, but there was also an alternative. That was for parents to learn more about these things and share in the child's interest for their benefit. I use a computer of some sort just about everyday, and having some knowledge about how they work is obviously beneficial. I'm not particularly knowledgeable, but when IT issues come up for family members there's a decent chance that they will call me for advice. I learned a decent amount just from being interested in computer games.
Smart phones are becoming more and more prominent and being adept at their use is an advantage. People might spend a lot of time goofing off with them, but they can also learn at the same time.
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My son is 25 and he missed out on the social media/YT nonsense in his youth. I can't even imagine what it must be like trying to raise a child into adulthood these days. Half the parents I know buy into a lot of nonsense themselves so I'm not sure how they can possibly help their children sort out the cacophany of "information" anyway. I have a niece that just turned 13. Last year she got her first phone. I had a talk with her and asked her to promise me/pinky swear/cross her heart/swear on a stack of bibles, not to turn into a phone zombie. I failed!!
As @Exorcet said above, it is the way of things right now. You can try to give a child an upbringing that is completely isolated and unrelatable from the upbringing of all of their peers, but doing so will only prevent them from relating to their peers socially and in the workplace later. As said above, my parents tried hard to pry me away from video games as a kid... and shared computer and game experience from childhood is socially valuable today.
In other words, if everyone else is doing it, they should probably at least understand it if not be wildly proficient at it because future jobs will be intertwined with those skills.
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