THE EMO THREAD: Epic Rage & Crying Thread

[chromatic9]

February 2005 = GT4
5.5+ years

November 2010 = GT5

After some math it turns out PD only modeled 3 "premium" cars per month for the last 5 and half years

Meanwhile in 2.5 years since Forza 2 Turn 10 has modeled 400 "premium" cars which look nearly as good as GT5 cars when not in game (360 cant handle them ingame). That's thirteen cars per month

And they're only going to have just 20 unique tracks

This would be acceptable if GT5 was released 2 years or even 1 year ago

PD better make up for it with an insane amount of online and racing features...otherwise Kaz has been squandering our money racing, sponsoring cars that fail to finish races, and doing red carpet events at movie premieres

Works out at 36 cars per year. If PD did 50 cars a year now the game is done say, then we would have 300 more cars done in 6 years. So 500 cars would be done in 6 years from now.

PD have known this for a long time and should see at that rate, by the time they get most up to PS3 quality it would be 2017.

Knowing this they should accept some of the cars should be out-sourced or take on a lot more staff. Doing it themselves is ridiculous.

Turn 10 knock out around 12 a month in DLC and would go inline with the dev of Forza 3.

I never expected a 1000 cars to be GT5P/GT5 quality but a good amount, say 500-600. 200 Premium and 300 in GT5P/Forza 3 menu screen quality with only finishing touches left to do before Premium level.

I think PD should've been more open about this too.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

we've got about 500 armchair drivers on the forums.

These? I want one.

 

[happycorey]

I knew E3 started off too good to be true. Unbelievable what eventually happened to what we thought were all the same quality cars :/

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

I can't believe this.. We finally got a solid launch date, info from the man himself and you guys are crying out loud like spoiled brats? Sheesh.. I myself am more than happy with what they're giving to us. And if they give us some cars from older GT's ( not only from GT4 but GT3 and GT2 etc etc), the more the merrier.. Besides, most of you guys will buy the game anyway and play it and like it, despite of all this drama display here.

 

[happycorey]

I can't believe this.. We finally got a solid launch date, info from the man himself and you guys are crying out loud like spoiled brats? Sheesh.. I myself am more than happy with what they're giving to us. And if they give us some cars from older GT's ( not only from GT4 but GT3 and GT2 etc etc), the more the merrier.. Besides, most of you guys will buy the game anyway and play it and like it, despite of all this drama display here.

The only reason I am complaining is the cars are not modeled in the same quality. It's not a problem they're giving us cars from GT4, it is a problem that they are giving us GT4 quality cars.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

Okay, show me a pic of such example in GT5, then I might take your word for it.

 

[Devedander]

Okay, show me a pic of such example in GT5, then I might take your word for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8v7hjaSr6c&feature=player_embedded

See if you can spot the standard cars from the premiums...

 

[El Drifto]

If I'm still driving old GT4 cars in GT5, Forza 4 will have a +1 sale.
Not looking good.

 

[GlobeKIDD]

Ok, i dont know about you guys, but 800 of this game's cars just became worthless space to me. Worthless, taken up space. Hell, cut that number to 400 and render ALL of their cars to 'Premium' status. Even by doing that it'll still have more cars than any other game besides GT4.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Seeing that standard car video gives me the same feeling as being dumped by a girlfriend who you've been wanting to go out with for 5-6 years.......

All seems to be blossoming into a beautiful relationship, but after apparently being hard at work during her "night shifts", finally admits she's was actually seeing other men this whole time, who aren't nearly as good looking and have nothing on the inside.....

and that 80% of her orgasms were faked, and only 20% were premium......

I think I'm going to have to write some suicide notes ow and send them to Mr Yamauchi, threatening him that if he doesn't go back to the way things were, and if he doesn't stop leading me on, then I will have to take my own life and it will be all his fault!

Seriously?

I think I speak for everyone - even the moderators - when I say get the **** off the internet. I have seen juvenile and childish reactions to this news, but yours, my friend, takes the cake for being the most extreme I have seen. Seriously - threatening suicide because GT5 doesn't 1000 fully-rendered interiors. What the ****!?

Do not buy GT5. Put the money to better use - like therapy.

 

[GlobeKIDD]

Seriously?

I think I speak for everyone - even the moderators - when I say get the **** off the internet. I have seen juvenile and childish reactions to this news, but yours, my friend, takes the cake for being the most extreme I have seen. Seriously - threatening suicide because GT5 doesn't 1000 fully-rendered interiors. What the ****!?

Do not buy GT5. Put the money to better use - like therapy.

I think he was just trollin us. lol.

 

[scandisk]

My dreams!!! I've always wanted to see the GT-One in it's FULL PREMIUM GLORY

 

[HN7]

^ This monster will also suffer the same fate

 

[Paulie]

epic rrrrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggee!

 

[franz]

My faith with PD on standard models is now down to zero!!! I can't believe how Kaz can pull off these standard models. Ironically it is absolutely not up to his standard. PD should at least rework the interior with minimum detail on standard model instead of tinted windows like GT4. There are some really awesome cars from PSP like the Audi R8 LM and Mazda Furai which I really wish they can become premium models. I am also worried about customization part would be more favorable to premium models, which leaves all these standard model like a big load of junk.

I have to admit the premium models are oh-so-fantastic and future-proof, but I really hope PD can try harder to keep the quality difference to the minimum.

 

[ARDA_TIRMAS]

standart cars rocks 👍

I won't us premium ones

 

[Machony]

I've never met such whiny people in my life. Gamers/fanboys are the biggest crybabies and never appreciate anything.

 

[CoolColJ]

Best name for a topic ever! I chuckle everytime I see it

Maybe PD are just trolling us to see the reaction

 

[sparkedglory]

I've never met such whiny people in my life. Gamers/fanboys are the biggest crybabies and never appreciate anything.

Look at the tread title and tell me you didn't expect any whining and complaining?

 

[The Vanishing Boy]

-> ...

Best name for a topic ever! I chuckle everytime I see it

Maybe PD are just trolling us to see the reaction

^ Eastley originally titled it: Epic Rage & Crying Thread.

-> Then I gave him a little suggestion:

-> This thread should be appropriately named:

THE EMO THREAD: Epic Rage & Crying Thread

^ And the rest is history.

 

[Slurm]

-> ...

^ Eastley originally titled it: Epic Rage & Crying Thread.

-> Then I gave him a little suggestion:


^ Then I tell everyone it's me who's awesome.

Fixed.

 

[BAZZ]

Simulators have cockpits! Easy as that! PD/Sony could have gotten away with not having cockpits in 2005 but sure as h*ll not in 2010! The carlist dropped from 1000 to 200+ for me and a lot others! There's no compensation on the cockpit subject at all. 3D, which I've been very interested in feels like a kick in the sack right now.
Is this Mr. Yamauchi's idea of "perfection"?
👎👎👎👎👍 1/5, that's how many cars that'll have cockpit and that's what I will judge the game on.

Edit: Spelling.

 

[Heath_1]

Okay So I don't normally make posts whinging about things but I think I've got darn good reason to.

PD have already lost countless sales of their flashy new game. What's the point in having over 1,000 vehicles and only a fraction of them have cockpit or dash view? This is unacceptable. If they hadn't wasted time, money and resources on useless garbage such as "GTPSP", 3D and "Premium Cars" maybe there would be enough room or whatever left on the disc or in the game to allow the full thousand or so cars to have a dash/cockpit view.

They think they're good at advertising their new product by showing you all the good stuff such as mind boggling graphics and detail, detail and graphics so far advanced you wonder how they even managed to make the game even work on a PS3. So basically the all new Gran Turismo 5 is just an upgraded Gran Turismo 4. As Paulie has said and I quote "epic rage!" That's exactly what I feel right now. Epic rage. Look at how many Forza and Need For Speed players will laugh. What a laughing stock Polyphony Digital is.

Well now it can take as long as it darn well wants to "release" because I don't care. I wont be giving my money to them. Trying to hide the truth as long as they could by not giving a straight answer to questions about the cock pit view. Give you an answer like "Premium cars will have interior view, Standard models will not have interior view". Instead of making yourself look like a darn political moron just give a straight answer like "No, the standard models will not have a cockpit view because..." then add a good reason as to why they wont. Oh wait.. I know.. because the thought that having the world's most advanced physics engine and making 200 cars look so real they look realer than real.

Then apparently they can make a black frame for the Standard models? Sorry, but I don't like that idea.

My trust and respect for Polyphony Digital = Zero!

 

[haubi]

still can't believe it.... but if we really only get 200 cars with cockpit view I'm glad I bought an xbox....

 

[daus26]

Okay So I don't normally make posts whinging about things but I think I've got darn good reason to.

PD have already lost countless sales of their flashy new game. What's the point in having over 1,000 vehicles and only a fraction of them have cockpit or dash view? This is unacceptable. If they hadn't wasted time, money and resources on useless garbage such as "GTPSP", 3D and "Premium Cars" maybe there would be enough room or whatever left on the disc or in the game to allow the full thousand or so cars to have a dash/cockpit view.

They think they're good at advertising their new product by showing you all the good stuff such as mind boggling graphics and detail, detail and graphics so far advanced you wonder how they even managed to make the game even work on a PS3. So basically the all new Gran Turismo 5 is just an upgraded Gran Turismo 4. As Paulie has said and I quote "epic rage!" That's exactly what I feel right now. Epic rage. Look at how many Forza and Need For Speed players will laugh. What a laughing stock Polyphony Digital is.

Well now it can take as long as it darn well wants to "release" because I don't care. I wont be giving my money to them. Trying to hide the truth as long as they could by not giving a straight answer to questions about the cock pit view. Give you an answer like "Premium cars will have interior view, Standard models will not have interior view". Instead of making yourself look like a darn political moron just give a straight answer like "No, the standard models will not have a cockpit view because..." then add a good reason as to why they wont. Oh wait.. I know.. because the thought that having the world's most advanced physics engine and making 200 cars look so real they look realer than real.

Then apparently they can make a black frame for the Standard models? Sorry, but I don't like that idea.

My trust and respect for Polyphony Digital = Zero!

If I get the gist of your post, you're missing the whole point on why there can't be interiors for all 1000 cars and that's time, not because they can't or choose not too.

They have a three choices in my eyes:

1. Interior cockpits for all 1000 cars, but very, very low in detail... or maybe 500 cars with FM3 detailed cockpit, but do they really want to go that low in detail? Remember, the premium cars also replicate realistic animation.
2. Premium and detailed cockpits for 200 cars plus 800 standard cars.
3. Just release 200 premium cars (which is bty much more than any NFS game can ever have) so that they can safely say all cars will have cockpit view.

But it's cool. I respect your decision.

 

[Devedander]

If I get the gist of your post, you're missing the whole point on why there can't be interiors for all 1000 cars and that's time, not because they can't or choose not too.

They have a three choices in my eyes:

1. Interior cockpits for all 1000 cars, but very, very low in detail... or maybe 500 cars with FM3 detailed cockpit, but do they really want to go that low in detail? Remember, the premium cars also replicate realistic animation.
2. Premium and detailed cockpits for 200 cars plus 800 standard cars.
3. Just release 200 premium cars (which is bty much more than any NFS game can ever have) so that they can safely say all cars will have cockpit view.

But it's cool. I respect your decision.

I think the gist of his post was more that he feels mislead than anything... it's one thing to bite off more than you can chew, but it's another to try and hide it until the last possible second then drop what you have to know is a bombshell like this.

Remember when DG said the cars in FM3 were super high res yadda yadda and it turned out that's only in photomode/replay and before the race starts? I actually believe he might have been inexcuseably ignorant right then but the damage was that it looked very much like he was outright lying and covering up...

KY and PD have been carefully showing us the cream of the crop and it seems being pretty crafty with what info they let out and it just looks very much like they were directly or indirectly covering up what they knew was a big deal.

That's what I think the gist of his post was anyway.

 

[daus26]

^^

About that, I actually thought we knew about this a long time ago (since last year TGS I think) and have been denying it. Many kept themselves optimistic and thought interior meant under the engine hood and whatnot. Top that off with translation problem and unclear quotes from several journalists.

 

[Heath_1]

I'd rather 800 Cars in total without any existence of cockpit view period. There's the problem solved.

 

[EJRocky]

Yes, I know this is the whining thread, but even so... I need somewhere to rant.

I cannot BELIEVE you people are acting like this - PD sux olol, I'm not buying the game, it's GT4 in HD - simply because a load of the cars have no cockpit view? How idiotic can you get?

I, for one, am so grateful. They really have improved in leaps and bounds over GT4, what with the day/night cycle, graphics, physics, pretty much everything. Since I primarily use bumper cam anyway, this cockpit rubbish is far from a deal breaker. It's still 800+ cars, rendered with beautiful exterior graphics and physics. And the premium cars will be nice for when I just want that extra kick of detail. Seriously, 200?! I find that amazing that they can render 200 of these premium cars in the detail they have! Yes, it pales somewhat compared to the 800 standards, but 200 is still a pretty damned good number if you ask me.

So yesterday, you were singing its praises... "omg, unbelievable, GT5 is gunna be teh best evarer!!!111!"... and you find out there's only going to be 200 cockpits, then you act like this? It's simply unbelievable what a bunch of ungrateful gits you all are. Seriously, grow up.

 

[crazytortise]

Yes, I know this is the whining thread, but even so... I need somewhere to rant.

I cannot BELIEVE you people are acting like this - PD sux olol, I'm not buying the game, it's GT4 in HD - simply because a load of the cars have no cockpit view? How idiotic can you get?

I, for one, am so grateful. They really have improved in leaps and bounds over GT4, what with the day/night cycle, graphics, physics, pretty much everything. Since I primarily use bumper cam anyway, this cockpit rubbish is far from a deal breaker. It's still 800+ cars, rendered with beautiful exterior graphics and physics. And the premium cars will be nice for when I just want that extra kick of detail. Seriously, 200?! I find that amazing that they can render 200 of these premium cars in the detail they have! Yes, it pales somewhat compared to the 800 standards, but 200 is still a pretty damned good number if you ask me.

So yesterday, you were singing its praises... "omg, unbelievable, GT5 is gunna be teh best evarer!!!111!"... and you find out there's only going to be 200 cockpits, then you act like this? It's simply unbelievable what a bunch of ungrateful gits you all are. Seriously, grow up.

+1 👍

There are a few 2 faced people around here it seems. 1 day they die hard GT fans, next day they couldn't care less. I say to them, if you can do a better job with GT5 then please go ahead 👍