The five cars that you DO NOT want in GT6.

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RX-7s with the very large majority in ... "Brilliant Black".

It's a nice colour. It's not the colour, that's the problem, though, and I can tell you, that Brilliant Black is the colour on my Skyline drift car. :scared: Don't hate on my Skyline GTS-t Type M (the RWD Skyline.)
 
It's a nice colour. It's not the colour, that's the problem, though, and I can tell you, that Brilliant Black is the colour on my Skyline drift car. :scared: Don't hate on my Skyline GTS-t Type M (the RWD Skyline.)

Hehe :) I haven't even looked at the colour properly as an option: it's just something that I noticed in my garage and then, it seems, whenever I spot a RX-7 in the UCD (which tends to be very often), there it is ... in Brilliant Black, like the colour is following me. :crazy:
 
Let's just say I only one one version of the MX-5 Miata.....ditch the other..what 15 of them?
 
What is wrong with them? What reason do you all have against the "dupes?"

I love the car, don't get me wrong, but they're so common and there can be up to 3 of them in the UCD at the same time. I do like how you have the option to go supercharger/turbo though;)
 
I love the car, don't get me wrong, but they're so common and there can be up to 3 of them in the UCD at the same time. I do like how you have the option to go supercharger/turbo though;)

Yes. And, I'm an autocross driver. My friend owns an RX-7 FD. I like seeing/recreating the cars I've autocrossed against.


Also, my father and I own/share an '09 Hyundai Accent. I'm a bit irritated that this car was left out of GT5, though it was in GT4 (as a rally car, and it was the Euro-spec '04 model.) Anyways, imagine how you would feel, if the car you own and race, in real life, were taken out of the game; how would you feel?


Keep the duplicates, but, 🤬 the ridiculous Used Car Dealership. No one wants/needs to look through the Used Car Dealership for days and days on end, waiting for a Chaparral 2J, just to find out that it costs 7x as much money as you have, and then wait another 300 days. It's ridiculous.


So, why lash out, against the cars that people might actually own, instead of the ridiculous reason why you can't buy the original cars?
 
Are you really going to start this argument all over again?

I'm saying, that it'd be a better idea, to get rid of the "used car dealership." I'm sick of it. I'm sick of seeing a Spec-car series, using a BMW M3 CSL, and thinking "right, I upgraded my M3 CSL for that other series, and now I don't I don't have an unmodded M3 CSL, and can't compete in that series." I mean, that gets annoying, doesn't it??


Otherwise, I still refrain from seeing the reason to hate "duplicate" cars.

  • they only take up space in your garage if you buy them
  • I'm sick of the UCD anyways
  • They don't really take up that much space in the Bluray disc
  • Not everyone wants to see a Koenigsegg in GT6, because some people have seen the Stig (from Top Gear) crash a CCX.
  • They took out the Hyundai Accent, the car I actually drive, in real life. That was in GT4. I'm a bit irritated, but, someone must've said "get rid of that car." which is unfair to the people who own that car.
 
NASCARS, the massive number of Skylines, the massive number of Miatas, the Buick GNX, and the Buick Special.
 
NASCARS, the massive number of Skylines, the massive number of Miatas, the Buick GNX, and the Buick Special.

With the removal of the Buick GNX you've wiped GT clean of any trace of NASCAR. Good job, I guess

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Honestly, I'm still left to wonder why people can hate hate hate so much, that they want to "get rid of" some cars. Honestly, someone uses them.


I use a Hyundai Accent. Who cares?! It's not a car you like? Don't use it then?


Why must people complain about the cars that are in the game?


Most of my dream cars are in the game. Most of most people's dream cars are in the game. Why complain, and try to take them out?
 
I covered it earlier

1. All of the cars at some point need to be all premium, hopefully in GT6. We can't have PS2 cars in 2020.
2. For the standard cars to be made premium PD have to start from scratch. The PS2 models can't be 'upgraded' because of how they were originally made.

So given PDs limited resources I would rather that FIRST they concentrate on modelling 100%, new and unique cars or making premium versions of the unique standards. Only once they have a good number of those would I mind them going back to modelling some of the standard duplicates or near duplicates.

Now you might say that because the duplicates are all very similar once they've modeled one premium version it wouldn't take as long to tweak that into a dupe as it would to create a new model from scratch. That's true but it would still take time and you know what PD are like, they'd spend hours modelling the slightly different interior to perfection and tweaking all of the slight physical differences. It wouldn't be a five minute job.

I would much rather they focus on unique cars first, even if it means less cars overall. I would rather have 450 unique premium cars than 350 unique cars and another 250 not so unique cars for a bigger overall total.
 
I covered it earlier

I understand that.


For GT6, I'd be fine, with having 450+ premium cars, while still having the standard cars, until they can get like 2000 premiums. I want to have all of that history, and all of those "possibilities."


Has anyone ever played demo-content before? Like, downloaded a small "trial version" of what a game REALLY has? You get frustrated, that you can only drive one or two cars. :yuck: I don't want to see like 400 premium cars, and that's it. Forza tried it. Within about four months, I was asking "Right, so, where are all of the other cars?" That doesn't happen, in GT5, because we have so many choices. Choices are a good thing.


We shouldn't have to give up good cars, to get more good cars. Cars aren't really the problem. We need more tracks. Sure, we can have more cars, but, darn I want Bathurst, Mid-Field, Seattle, and the two Paris circuits. Darn I want longer rally circuits. And, to add to that, I'm not the type for giving away what I have to get more. I always have been the type to be happy with what I've got, and then just add more later.
 
But most of them are not needed if there is already one premium version.

I mean let's break it down to silly levels and pretend there are only a handful of cars. Let's say in GT6 this is the roster, and they're all premium.

Ford GT '06
Mazda Eunos Roadster J-Limited (NA) '91
Mazda éfini RX-7 Type R (FD) ’91
Mitsubishi GTO SR ’95
Nissan Fairlady Z Roadster (Z33) ’03
Renault Sport Clio Renault Sport V6 24V ’00
Toyota VITZ RS 1.5 ’00
Vauxhall Corsa Comfort 1.4 ’01

Would the game really benefit by adding the following as standard cars:

Ford GT '05
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited (NA, J) ’91
Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD, J) ’91
Mitsubishi 3000GT SR (J) ’95
Nissan 350Z Raodster (Z33, EU) ’03
Renault Sport Lutecia Renault Sport V6 24V ’01
Toyota Yaris RS 1.5 (J) ’00
Opel Corsa Comfort 1.4 ’01

Now take that idea across the whole dupe car list and that's my point. There is no point including lower quality cars with less usability across the game just for the sake of including them to make the numbers bigger.

400 cars is more than enough if the variety is there. I find it hard to believe you were lost with the FM4 car list but had no problem running out of cars in GT5. Do you get out of a Eunos Roadster and then jump in the MX-5 version and find that different, or something?
 
Do you get out of a Eunos Roadster and then jump in the MX-5 version and find that different, or something?

Simply put, yes, because there are some differences. Anyways, I'm not being specific, but, let's just think:


Does FM4 have the Opel Corsa comfort? Nope.
Does FM4 have the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4? Nope.
Does FM4 have the Mitsubishi Galant VR-4? Nope.
Does FM4 have the Nissan Stagea? Nope.


Do you see where I'm going with this? 💡
 
MrMelancholy15
Simply put, yes, because there are some differences. Anyways, I'm not being specific, but, let's just think:

Does FM4 have the Opel Corsa comfort? Nope.
Does FM4 have the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4? Nope.
Does FM4 have the Mitsubishi Galant VR-4? Nope.
Does FM4 have the Nissan Stagea? Nope.

Do you see where I'm going with this? 💡

Because they are bad, corsa's in real life are mostly driven by chavs so that can go. Back to your old point. It is nice that a car you own is in the game but not everyone's is so if one replaces another, who cares. And if 1 or 2 miata goes, 15+ more left or a 95/93 skyline goes, just buy a 96 instead. It's the SAME. No dups and no used car lot unless improved (all card available but like real life), more parts and customisation will solve the Dup problem
 
Because they are bad, corsa's in real life are mostly driven by chavs so that can go. Back to your old point. It is nice that a car you own is in the game but not everyone's is so if one replaces another, who cares. And if 1 or 2 miata goes, 15+ more left or a 95/93 skyline goes, just buy a 96 instead. It's the SAME. No dups and no used car lot unless improved (all card available but like real life), more parts and customisation will solve the Dup problem

I suppose you finally have a point.
 
Anyways, imagine how you would feel, if the car you own and race, in real life, were taken out of the game; how would you feel?

In all honesty, it wouldn't bother me. I drive a car that happens to be a premium in GT5, and I only chose to drive it just recently. Since playing the very first GT, this is the first car I've owned in the game, and it made no difference to my play.

I understand what you're saying, and for you it means a lot. To me though, I'm more interested in the cars I will never be able to own--let alone tune. I also worry that if getting everyone's car into the game is one of PD's motivations, we'll end up with standard cars in GT6, or--even worse--30 Skylines, 30 RX-7s, and so on.

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Because they are bad, corsa's in real life are mostly driven by chavs so that can go.

If PD chose their cars based upon the stereotype of the person who drove them, we'd have one, foot-powered scooter left in the game, and even that would be suspect.
 
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But most of them are not needed if there is already one premium version.

I mean let's break it down to silly levels and pretend there are only a handful of cars. Let's say in GT6 this is the roster, and they're all premium.

Ford GT '06
Mazda Eunos Roadster J-Limited (NA) '91
Mazda éfini RX-7 Type R (FD) ’91
Mitsubishi GTO SR ’95
Nissan Fairlady Z Roadster (Z33) ’03
Renault Sport Clio Renault Sport V6 24V ’00
Toyota VITZ RS 1.5 ’00
Vauxhall Corsa Comfort 1.4 ’01

Would the game really benefit by adding the following as standard cars:

Ford GT '05
Mazda MX-5 Miata J-Limited (NA, J) ’91
Mazda RX-7 Type R (FD, J) ’91
Mitsubishi 3000GT SR (J) ’95
Nissan 350Z Raodster (Z33, EU) ’03
Renault Sport Lutecia Renault Sport V6 24V ’01
Toyota Yaris RS 1.5 (J) ’00
Opel Corsa Comfort 1.4 ’01

Now take that idea across the whole dupe car list and that's my point. There is no point including lower quality cars with less usability across the game just for the sake of including them to make the numbers bigger.

400 cars is more than enough if the variety is there. I find it hard to believe you were lost with the FM4 car list but had no problem running out of cars in GT5. Do you get out of a Eunos Roadster and then jump in the MX-5 version and find that different, or something?

This is how they should clean up the duplicates, having lots of specs/variations isn't too bad as there are some noticeable differences between them but the regionalised cars should and most likely will go (They have only added the Newer Yaris as a Japanese Vitz and latest MX-5 as a Japanese Roadster in GT5)
 
Youngun
Because they are bad, corsa's in real life are mostly driven by chavs so that can go.

Well if that's not a stereotype then nothing is. This is the biggest load of horse s*** I have heard in a long time.

MAYBE people drive corsa's because they are cheap to buy, cheap to run, and cheap to insure, and for the most part look good (especially the sxi in black!).
 
Well if that's not a stereotype then nothing is. This is the biggest load of horse s*** I have heard in a long time.

MAYBE people drive corsa's because they are cheap to buy, cheap to run, and cheap to insure, and for the most part look good (especially the sxi in black!).

Or maybe because you can trust German build quality (pfft, Vauxhall. :lol:) You guys wish it were made here. Of course, so do I. :rolleyes:
 
X2010
X2011
Toyota Prius
Vauxhall/Opel Corsa Comfort
Vauxhall/Opel 3.2 Vectra
 
X2010
X2011
Toyota Prius
Vauxhall/Opel Corsa Comfort
Vauxhall/Opel 3.2 Vectra

Simply put, yes, because there are some differences. Anyways, I'm not being specific, but, let's just think:


Does FM4 have the Opel Corsa comfort? Nope.
Does FM4 have the Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4? Nope.
Does FM4 have the Mitsubishi Galant VR-4? Nope.
Does FM4 have the Nissan Stagea? Nope.


Do you see where I'm going with this? 💡

You and I will never agree on the Corsa.
 
I don't wan't the Corsa in the game because it's not a VXR and I don't like it i'm not sterotyping like Youngun. :)
 
I don't wan't the Corsa in the game because it's not a VXR and I don't like it i'm not sterotyping like Youngun. :)

You must not've heard what James May had to say about the Corsa VXR Nürburgring, then. :lol:

Anyways, I'm just being loyal to Opel. I like to drive Opel, in every chance I get. My racing team, Team Phoenix Motorsports is running the Astra Touring Car, with my teammate in the Vauxhall and me in the Opel, in a DTM series. 💡 brand loyalty is a nice thing.
 
nealcropper
Well if that's not a stereotype then nothing is. This is the biggest load of horse s*** I have heard in a long time.

MAYBE people drive corsa's because they are cheap to buy, cheap to run, and cheap to insure, and for the most part look good (especially the sxi in black!).

Yes but not corsa b/c, latest corsas are nice but ain't in game and VXR line is great. I ment the corsas in the game but my just be my area full of riced corsas. It's a little stereotyping but most cats have there market the Citreon C2 was designed for that market replacing the Saxo
 
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