The five cars that you DO NOT want in GT6.

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Which one handles right? It are both wrong?

Strange Game this GT5 malarky.
Well, nobody knows really. Even if we had some GT 05 owners who know how the car is in real, a car in GT5 will never be the same, therefore it would even be questionable to call the car which feels closer to real the correct one, because we can't really know how it was meant to be in game. Strange, yes, boah..... makes headache! :lol:
 
Funny, I don't remember reading any of this when you first tried explaining why it should be in the game.

...And now we've just come full circle. The Ford GTs should not handle differently from each other.
Did I say painted by the manufacturer? Maybe somebody bought a striped 05 and then repainted it in another colour without stripes. Doesn't make an official new model out of it. Now replace somebody with the PD team and..... we have a winner.

Of course, the different performance is unexplainable, but let's concentrate on the paint thing first.
The striped one wasn't ported?
I did
 
Well, nobody knows really. Even if we had some GT 05 owners who know how the car is in real, a car in GT5 will never be the same, therefore it would even be questionable to call the car which feels closer to real the correct one, because we can't really know how it was meant to be in game. Strange, yes, boah..... makes headache! :lol:
As SimonK said, it's quite simple really. If the Ford GT No Stripe is how the Ford GTs should handle, then all Ford GTs should adopt to the way it drives; no need for the No Stripe. If the striped Ford GT is how the Ford GTs should drive, then all Ford GTs should adopt to the way it drives; no need for the No Stripe.

Add the "people might not like stripes" thing, and perhaps your argument makes a bit of sense. But then fix the paint system (to fix all striped cars) and keeping the No Stripe would be completely pointless.
Sorry, what? Where did you explain the whole "it should be in the next GT because some people don't like stripes" thing?
 
Or they keep the models and simply make the ingame performance specs equal.

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WHY? It's the same car, one has stripes on and one doesn't. They don't need to be listed as two different cars, they need to be one car that you can paint either solid or stripes. Other games managed to give you both options when choosing a manufacturer paint, it's not hard.

Go to dealer>
Choose Ford GT 05>
Choose paint from (example) Red | Red w/ stripe | Blue | Blue w/ stripe | Yellow | Yellow w/ stripe and so on.

It really couldn't be simpler.
 
SimonK
WHY? It's the same car, one has stripes on and one doesn't. They don't need to be listed as two different cars, they need to be one car that you can paint either solid or stripes. Other games managed to give you both options when choosing a manufacturer paint, it's not hard.

Go to dealer>
Choose Ford GT 05>
Choose paint from (example) Red | Red w/ stripe | Blue | Blue w/ stripe | Yellow | Yellow w/ stripe and so on.

It really couldn't be simpler.

But,when you paint it,the stripes come back ;) And I tested No stripes is faster than with stripes
 
The funniest thing about the whole stripe/no stripe scenario is PD have already sorted it by offering both choices on the premium '06 Ford GT, which is identical to the 'two' '05 models assuming the specs were to be correct. Now why they kept the '05 ones for any reasons other than carlist padding i'll never know...
 
Get rid of the Tank Car and Trucks is all i care about.

Slim the miata and skyline list down too.

Bring the nike car back from GT4, and more 80s-90s hondas (4th and 5th gen accords, 2nd and 3rd gen preludes.)
 
Get rid of the Tank Car and Trucks is all i care about.

Slim the miata and skyline list down too.

Bring the nike car back from GT4, and more 80s-90s hondas (4th and 5th gen accords, 2nd and 3rd gen preludes.)

OMG NO!!! lol

I'd rather have more trucks, including 70's/ 80's 'big three' trucks, and less hondas! But, thats just my opinion.

I think we could do without the Tank Car as well.
I don't want any standard LM cars either!

And, I can't believe how out of hand the stripe/ no-stripe thing went! lol
 
The Premium Ford GT can already be had with or without stripes. No point to bringing the two Standard cars back, because at that point it would just be PD repeating the same problems with GT5.

Of course, the different performance is unexplainable
The aerodynamics of the No Stripe are wildly different from the other ones, which was carried over from GT4.
 
The aerodynamics of the No Stripe are wildly different from the other ones, which was carried over from GT4.
Why is the aerodynamics different?
I see no optical differences (no, I'm not talking about the paint...), you know. Your anwer doesn't really explain anything, because the answer itself is already unexplainable.

It has less wind resistance and better grip.... interesting. Of course has it something to do with aerodynamics, but the reason/origin for this is unexplainable like I said.

WHY? It's the same car, one has stripes on and one doesn't. They don't need to be listed as two different cars, they need to be one car that you can paint either solid or stripes. Other games managed to give you both options when choosing a manufacturer paint, it's not hard.

Go to dealer>
Choose Ford GT 05>
Choose paint from (example) Red | Red w/ stripe | Blue | Blue w/ stripe | Yellow | Yellow w/ stripe and so on.

It really couldn't be simpler.
Two ways are possible.

If it's done this way, then please with including striped paint tickets. They could also do it with the car dealers like you said, possible....
As SimonK said, it's quite simple really. If the Ford GT No Stripe is how the Ford GTs should handle, then all Ford GTs should adopt to the way it drives; no need for the No Stripe. If the striped Ford GT is how the Ford GTs should drive, then all Ford GTs should adopt to the way it drives; no need for the No Stripe.
This is one possible way, yes.
Add the "people might not like stripes" thing, and perhaps your argument makes a bit of sense. But then fix the paint system (to fix all striped cars) and keeping the No Stripe would be completely pointless.
What else would be the point of having a Nostripe version? It couldn't be clearer.
And yes, they either fix the paint system or make the cars equal.

Sorry, what? Where did you explain the whole "it should be in the next GT because some people don't like stripes" thing?
Because it's the only logical reason for including it, it didn't seem necessary to explain. The guys from PD who decided to include it wanted a no stripe option, and so do I and probably others too.
So yeah, fix paint system or the specs. Whatever you like more.
Or do it like Simon said with the car dealers like it's nearly already possible in the ncd.
Next thing you know putting a spoiler on a stock cavalier will make it go faster.
Stock probably not, but who knows what happens if you tune it, raise the front and slamm the rear..... might be faster then with wing. :lol:
 
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Why is the aerodynamics different?
I see no optical differences (no, I'm not talking about the paint...), you know. Your anwer doesn't really explain anything, because the answer itself is already unexplainable.
The aerodynamics are different because PD put different values into the No Stripe's specs when they originally made the car. I'm not exactly sure what exactly is so unexplainable about that, and the problems with the No Stripe in comparison to the regular GT were documented back in the GT4 days (off the top of my head, it was banned from one of the Tuning Competitions).




Honestly, all your posts about this are borderline nonsensical. I've reread every one you've made about it, and it doesn't even seem like you are even responding to the people in this thread with them.
 
The aerodynamics are different because PD put different values into the No Stripe's specs when they originally made the car. I'm not exactly sure what exactly is so unexplainable about that, and the problems with the No Stripe in comparison to the regular GT were documented back in the GT4 days (off the top of my head, it was banned from one of the Tuning Competitions).
The sense
Please explain me the sense of doing this.
Honestly, all your posts about this are borderline nonsensical. I've reread every one you've made about it, and it doesn't even seem like you are even responding to the people in this thread with them.
I'm sorry if my post are that sh:censored:, whereas yours are that incredibly great. Move on and ignore them if you don't like my posts.
I'm nobody and you're the king ehh? Sure.....


I can post my opinion as long as I follow the AUP, and that's what I'm really trying to do. Like it or not, but I'll keep saying whatever I think/want to say (in an acceptable manner, at least I always try to).
 
Why is the aerodynamics different?
I see no optical differences (no, I'm not talking about the paint...), you know. Your anwer doesn't really explain anything, because the answer itself is already unexplainable.

It has less wind resistance and better grip.... interesting. Of course has it something to do with aerodynamics, but the reason/origin for this is unexplainable like I said.
Unexplainable? As I've said before, and as Toronado just pointed out, it's because the car was modelled incorrectly in GT4, and when it was ported to GT5, the inaccuracies carried over.
The sense
Please explain me the sense of doing this.
I'm sorry if my post are that sh:censored:, whereas yours are that incredibly great. Move on and ignore them if you don't like my posts.
I'm nobody and you're the king ehh? Sure.....


I can post my opinion as long as I follow the AUP, and that's what I'm really trying to do. Like it or not, but I'll keep saying whatever I think/want to say (in an acceptable manner, at least I always try to).
Don't take offense; he's simply pointing out that you either ignore our posts or aren't interpreting what we're trying to say. Even I'm seeing it.
 
Unexplainable? As I've said before, and as Toronado just pointed out, it's because the car was modelled incorrectly in GT4, and when it was ported to GT5, the inaccuracies carried over.
And can you explain why it happened? We were already on this level, go deeper.
Don't take offense; he's simply pointing out that you either ignore our posts or aren't interpreting what we're trying to say. Even I'm seeing it.
Oh he just called all my previous posts nonsense, but ok.
I can hardly be ignoring posts when I quote them. I'm relatively sure what you guys are trying to say, I'm just trying to let you see my point, and I'm sorry, I haven't got the feeling yet that at least one of you do so. Maybe I'm wrong too, nothings impossible. But making me to the bad guy just because of not sharing an opinion or misunderstanding is not less wrong.

I'm personally done with this topic, but if you want to keep this discussion, then I'll spend some additional time in it. However you want.

:)
 
And we finally agree!

How nice is this? :)
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Back to the topic, for me I would also throw out concept cars that don't have any competition and are only for collection.
 
I would like to see the removal of all the numerous variations of MX5's and others, there are just to many of some models with little or no variation in performance. Also get rid of some of the weird, ugly odd shopping cars, what's the point in them being there, it's a racing game and know one bothers using them, they aren't fun to drive. They should have a serious cull there are far to many cars in the game.
 
Most Skyline variations have to go; AMC Pacer, X12010/2011, and that Furai Concept, and that Mistubishi Concept with flaps
 
The millions of variations of cars with near exact performance, kei cars, X2010, and any other car that doesn't exist in real life. GT1 and GT3 didn't have that many cars and they were still great games.
 
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