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It just did a tower fly-by at Spokane WA airport and now appears to be heading back.
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Yup, today was the 787-9's first flight. Exciting!
I was able to get a good vantage point by Paine Field for this. It was pretty good timing as shortly after I arrived, the plane taxied out of its stall in the Boeing Flightline and onto the runway. Here's the -9 after it crossed onto Paine Field property and taxing on the runway in preparation for take off:
IMG_0448_EC by chng8, on Flickr
The plane goes all the way to the south end of the run way, as it was going to take off to the north. It sits down there for what seemed like a little more than 30 minutes. Then it happened. The 787-9 took off on its first flight.
IMG_0458_EC by chng8, on Flickr
It flew directly overhead as it banked to the left, flying out to the Sound before making a turn inland. You can see the photo chase plane right behind the 787. A minute or two after take off, it disappeared into the clouds.
I was able to get a good vantage point by Paine Field for this. It was pretty good timing as shortly after I arrived, the plane taxied out of its stall in the Boeing Flightline and onto the runway. Here's the -9 after it crossed onto Paine Field property and taxing on the runway in preparation for take off:
IMG_0448_EC by chng8, on Flickr
The plane goes all the way to the south end of the run way, as it was going to take off to the north. It sits down there for what seemed like a little more than 30 minutes. Then it happened. The 787-9 took off on its first flight.
IMG_0458_EC by chng8, on Flickr
It flew directly overhead as it banked to the left, flying out to the Sound before making a turn inland. You can see the photo chase plane right behind the 787. A minute or two after take off, it disappeared into the clouds.
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Sure. That's why they keep taking my Yak down when I just sit on a He-111's tail.
I'm learning to take down German bombers in IL-2 Sturmovik game. My preferred fighters are Yaks, MiG-3 and P-39 Airacobra.By the way, I'm going to assemble a 1:72 Yak-3 model with the livery of Marcel Albert - the famous French ace from the Normandie-Niemen regiment. Now I'm looking for that light gray tone paint available...
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The 'boneyard' in Arizona. Two thumbs up for OCD parking of planes...
Yes, Davis-Monthan AFB, I know it well. I became quite familiar with the various planes while stationed there in the early 80's. I was allowed to root around in them on my free time all I wanted. The B52's were enormous as one would guess. There are many many many others as well, from many decades. It's a very interesting place, full of aviation history. As I recall, it was called MASDC, Military Aircraft Storage and Disposition Center at the time. I would imagine it still is. Thanks for the memory bump!
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I think as part of the SALT treaties several B52s are there with the wings cut off and left by the planes and not scrapped, so the Russkies could see that they weren't just hidden away somewhere and actually still usable. X number of B52s destroyed, and there they are for all the satellites to see.
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The last time I looked a boneyard pics I saw a bunch of P-3 Orions, which is what my dad used to fly. Feels bad man.
Also I quite like this picture
Also I quite like this picture
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Went up in an old Piper Cherokee on the weekend, my friend flying as he's recently got his PPL. Took the girlfriend up to and apart from a few moments (take off and when engine power was reduced at landing) she really enjoyed it.
I got to take control for about 15 minutes which was great fun. Had some great photo opportunities too even though the weather was a bit undecided (clearly where we took off, Swansea, but closing in around Tenby).
I got to take control for about 15 minutes which was great fun. Had some great photo opportunities too even though the weather was a bit undecided (clearly where we took off, Swansea, but closing in around Tenby).
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The last time I looked a boneyard pics I saw a bunch of P-3 Orions, which is what my dad used to fly. Feels bad man.
Also I quite like this picture
I love how all of the orange features stand out in that pic amongst the gray hue. Those missiles look amazing sitting on the end of the wings.
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Yup, today was the 787-9's first flight. Exciting!
I was able to get a good vantage point by Paine Field for this. It was pretty good timing as shortly after I arrived, the plane taxied out of its stall in the Boeing Flightline and onto the runway. Here's the -9 after it crossed onto Paine Field property and taxing on the runway in preparation for take off:
IMG_0448_EC by chng8, on Flickr
The plane goes all the way to the south end of the run way, as it was going to take off to the north. It sits down there for what seemed like a little more than 30 minutes. Then it happened. The 787-9 took off on its first flight.
IMG_0458_EC by chng8, on Flickr
It flew directly overhead as it banked to the left, flying out to the Sound before making a turn inland. You can see the photo chase plane right behind the 787. A minute or two after take off, it disappeared into the clouds.
AWESOME! 👍
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My favorite WW2 plane ^
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I love the simplicity of that, especially the gauges being glow in the dark! 👍
Here's what a 3-rotor wankel sounds like an aircraft
Skip to 2:10 for the takeoff
EDIT: And a V8
Here's what a 3-rotor wankel sounds like an aircraft
Skip to 2:10 for the takeoff
EDIT: And a V8
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Me too, it's one of my lists of airplanes in the early years of WW2 along with Junkers and Focke-wulf fighter planes from German "Luftwaffe".
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Yeah, I saw that; didn't realize there was an untapped market for Norwegians to visit South Florida; then again, they don't have the same strict rules on cabotage over in Europe.
Their airplanes look somewhat like Tylenol capsules.
Their airplanes look somewhat like Tylenol capsules.
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View from a gunner seat of Mi-24 chopper.
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Was having a think the other day...
What are the fundamental differences between a light aircraft with a piston engine and a car engine? Obviously theres no gearbox, but can power be increased in the same ways? Turbocharging, "Hotter cams", increased compression, etc.
Additionally, are there instances of car engines being used in airplanes? IS there a fundamental reason why an LSx wouldnt work in a Mooney Bravo?
What are the fundamental differences between a light aircraft with a piston engine and a car engine? Obviously theres no gearbox, but can power be increased in the same ways? Turbocharging, "Hotter cams", increased compression, etc.
Additionally, are there instances of car engines being used in airplanes? IS there a fundamental reason why an LSx wouldnt work in a Mooney Bravo?
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Aircraft run on better fuel, so you could increase the compression.
B-29s have a supercharger and a turbo for high altitude flight.
Some supercharger systems you have to change modes over a certain height though.
Reading up on the Bravo's engines, it seems that they actually run a low CR of around 7-9,.
Only about 180hp, but it's at low RPM.
I'd say that the main difference is the optimization for low RPM and reliability, plus mixture adjustments.
An LSx would be too heavy for a small plane though, a lot of power though.
Edit: Car engines are only asked to use a few percent of their available power, vs the 80-100% power levels that you'd be running in a small aircraft.
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and it would significantly alter empty weight moment most likely outside of the operating envelope for weight and balance, I don't know the weight characteristics of either the plane or the engines though.
Basically The big reason it's rarely done though is the cost associated with a manufacturer to present to the FAA that it's safe and reliable
here's an experimental cessna 172 though
edit: post 285 has better videos just above these
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Also aircraft engines usually run at much higher RPM. Like a Spitfire at full throttle would be touching 30,000rpm.
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I know somebody crammed a Merlin into a car, it wasn't especially drivable, but had nearly 1000 hp on tap.
I just figured that with direct injection and such making it's way into the car market, I wondered if aviation engine design had progressed as far. I'm sure jets are pretty much as efficient as possible, but have small aircraft (Anything between a Superlight and a Beechcraft twinprop) really had that much R&D put into them, or is it not cost-effective to do so?
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Well light aircraft are designed to be cheap most of the time so the most powerful engines are not put in them. I have no idea on efficiency.
As for how far combustion engine technology has come with planes in terms of power. In WW2 the most powerful engine was the Pratt and Whitney R2800 I believe. That put out up to 2,800bhp depending on the variant. Engines now used for the Reno air race put out over 4,000.
As for how far combustion engine technology has come with planes in terms of power. In WW2 the most powerful engine was the Pratt and Whitney R2800 I believe. That put out up to 2,800bhp depending on the variant. Engines now used for the Reno air race put out over 4,000.
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I'm not sure how much R&D is going into a modern light aircraft. The general aviation industry hasn't been doing terribly well lately so I would imagine it's not a whole lot.
Then again, the newest plane I've flown was built in the 60's and after that one from 1939
Also, wrecked Zero somewhere in the Mariana Islands.
Then again, the newest plane I've flown was built in the 60's and after that one from 1939
Also, wrecked Zero somewhere in the Mariana Islands.
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