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-> Just started watching R.O.D. The TV, the storyline is pretty streamlined I must say! But do not watch it IF you haven't watch the movie, because it follows 4-5 years after the movie premise! 
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Are you kidding me? I got into an argument because of that show about a month ago.
Any good though? Nope, I wouldn't say so. Maybe I've grown old of the childish theme it takes on. I'd look for other shows if I wanted some kind of comedy. Well come to think of it, if you're looking for a show with humour on the side, you can help yourself to Kyoukai no Kanata. So far it's about at the same level as Neptunia, but at least it keeps it's slice-of-life more relatable than Neptunia. There's more humour in it too.
Any good though? Nope, I wouldn't say so. Maybe I've grown old of the childish theme it takes on. I'd look for other shows if I wanted some kind of comedy. Well come to think of it, if you're looking for a show with humour on the side, you can help yourself to Kyoukai no Kanata. So far it's about at the same level as Neptunia, but at least it keeps it's slice-of-life more relatable than Neptunia. There's more humour in it too.
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It's absolutely brilliant, and you have to watch it.
It's cute, funny, and ridiculous - yet can also be surprisingly deep and emotional at well-timed intervals. The characters are all wholly likeable, and the writing suits the action wonderfully - and the way in which it switches from light-hearted comedy to some quite dark themes is remarkably seamless. I don't know much about the games, but the anime is a separate continuity that bears most similarities to the second and third games; it incorporates elements of their storylines, but presents them in different contexts and with slightly altered delivery. It all works to brilliant effect, though.
The animation's bright, happy, and colourful too. Get the CommieSubs version for maximum fun-ness; you won't be disappointed.
Of course, AOS- didn't like it. Which is cool, I mean, you don't have to like everything - but I thought it was awesome, and I thoroughly recommend it.
Incidentally, it's also the anime that my avatar comes from. :3
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Not like it's going to be screened in even 1/4 of the states in the US. It sure as hell won't be in my state. There hasn't been a non-Ghibli or Yu-Gi-Oh! anime movie screened here since the Eureka Seven movie four years ago (Which I went to, less than 10 people came including me...in an ultrascreen auditorium at that....). The pains of anime being niche.
You mean like just about every single anime adaptation out there...Neptunia is originally an RPG game. They decided to make an anime for more publicity.
It worked on you just now, didn't it?
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Gawdammit Kotaku....
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So Aniplex is trying to make the third Madoka movie get an Oscar.
They're delusional, anime has won only ONE Oscar and that was over a decade ago. Unless you're Studio Ghibli, you got like no chance, and even then, it's a great struggle.
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/11/...nsters-u-in-oscar-mix-for-best-animated-film/
They're delusional, anime has won only ONE Oscar and that was over a decade ago. Unless you're Studio Ghibli, you got like no chance, and even then, it's a great struggle.
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"Trying to make a movie get an Oscar?" Strange choice of words, wouldn't you say?
Pixar does some great storyboards and their animation far exceeds anime for the most part. Studio Ghibli is extremely outstanding in that sense for being a respectable adversary to 3D animation. That said, it would be great to see other anime studios try at an Oscar. It creates a positive message about what anime is capable of doing and it's even better to see it's being tried at by a studio not well known outside of the anime community.
If Rebellion can be nominated, that probably means I can expect to be blown away.
Pixar does some great storyboards and their animation far exceeds anime for the most part. Studio Ghibli is extremely outstanding in that sense for being a respectable adversary to 3D animation. That said, it would be great to see other anime studios try at an Oscar. It creates a positive message about what anime is capable of doing and it's even better to see it's being tried at by a studio not well known outside of the anime community.
If Rebellion can be nominated, that probably means I can expect to be blown away.
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I feel like if a Japanese film doesn't get chosen, then there may be some racism/bribery involved.
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The problem though is the stuff has to be licensed by these companies nobody has ever really heard of, and anime is still niche. FUNimation tried to get Summer Wars nominated, it got rejected. Seems they didn't even bother trying to get Wolf Children nominated because of how everything they ever pitched never got nominated.
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Don't watch the show just to prepare for the movie, watch the show 'cause it's pretty good and is a good franchise to have knowledge of. Watch the movie after that and be blown away, it's so hype.
Pretty ashamed of Zeta for not watching it yet. Then again, he's been known to make poor choices in regards to anime.
I feel the tension between you two.
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It doesn't. The problem is it's up against mainstream movies, and anime is niche (How many of the people picking what's nominated have even seen these movies?). Racism and bribery has absolutely nothing to do with it, it's not even present.
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I haven't seen any of the Madoka films yet, in fact, I only just saw the series, but I have a suspicion that it'll probably be better than anything which winds up getting nominated for the Oscar. This year hasn't been great for western animation outside of Adventure Time, honestly, while Japan always manages to produce at least 2 or 3 things every year that are worth watching.
I miss nineties cartoons...
Although I would happily rank Spirited Away as one of my favourite films, it honestly only won the Oscar because it had the might of Disney behind it. As someone said, Funimation aren't bothering trying to get Wolf Children nominated. Why? Because the Oscar's are just one big self congratulatory pat on ones own back for the industry, and tiny distributors like Funimation aren't really going to have any influence in that.
Plus the whole thing is absurdly pretentious, the fact Toy Story 3 failed to win speaks volumes...
I miss nineties cartoons...
Although I would happily rank Spirited Away as one of my favourite films, it honestly only won the Oscar because it had the might of Disney behind it. As someone said, Funimation aren't bothering trying to get Wolf Children nominated. Why? Because the Oscar's are just one big self congratulatory pat on ones own back for the industry, and tiny distributors like Funimation aren't really going to have any influence in that.
Plus the whole thing is absurdly pretentious, the fact Toy Story 3 failed to win speaks volumes...
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Yes, but I doubt we're going to move away from these images it has (Listed below). The only hope it has is it goes mainstream (Which would come with plenty of cons-my brain would probably explode from more stupidity running rampant), which probably will not happen. Although anime has become more popular by the year, as evidenced by con attendance still increasing quite a bit.
1. It's for kids because of the "Animation=Kids" stigma that's still present here, although there's adult comedies. Animation is still not accepted as a "mature" storytelling medium.
2. It's weird as 🤬.
Well they do make 150+ shows per year....
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I believe in a rule of coercively forcing someone to watch Grave Of The Fireflies the moment they dismiss animation as immature.
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As much as I liked Grave of the Fireflies (And Ghibli movies in general), it alone doesn't show what animation is capable of, you need to show them a variety of stuff from multiple age groups and genres (The areas western animation falls short. Western animation lacks variety.).
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I wouldn't say western animation necessarily lacks variety, but there's nowhere near as much as there is in Japanese animation. Then again, western animation does often offer something that Japanese animation lacks, I'm not aware of the Japanese having anything quite as inspired in the same way as Rugrats, for example.
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By lack of variety, I'm saying you typically get these episodic kids shows that are comedy, and when you get non-episodic it typically is something action-oriented which is still "kid fare" (Not to say this is bad, many people say Avatar is better than lots of anime after all). And then when it comes to adult animation, it's pretty much just episodic comedies again.
When it comes to movies, they're now all CG (2D animation is dead in American cinema) and targeted at kids and the fun for the whole family crowd. Where is something like say Garden of Sinners which is targeted at a "mature audience"?
Meanwhile Japan has stuff targeted at all age groups, and can be about anything, thanks to many in the 1970's starting to see animation as something other than "Something for kids to watch" as my Patlabor: The Movie LE booklet describes it.
As good as plenty of western animation is, it lacks variety.
When it comes to movies, they're now all CG (2D animation is dead in American cinema) and targeted at kids and the fun for the whole family crowd. Where is something like say Garden of Sinners which is targeted at a "mature audience"?
Meanwhile Japan has stuff targeted at all age groups, and can be about anything, thanks to many in the 1970's starting to see animation as something other than "Something for kids to watch" as my Patlabor: The Movie LE booklet describes it.
As good as plenty of western animation is, it lacks variety.
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Yeah and while that is an ongoing issue, that shouldn't mean people shouldn't give up trying to create a better image of anime. We weren't suggesting Madoka should win the Oscar so you could come in and tell us it's not going to happen. We just appreciate the thought that anime is trying to gain recognition on other playing fields.
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What western animation, as has been mentioned, lacks is maturity. Sure, there are exceptions. Rugrats and The Simpsons (at least early on in their runs) both knew how to be mature, even if that wasn't always immediately obvious, and I've heard people say the same thing of Daria as well, although I've never seen it. Pixar, of course, are also highly capable of this, something which is best seen in Wall-E, although is also fairly obvious in the Toy Story films as well.
But, at the end of the day, the west is unlikely to produce something like Eva, Lain, or Madoka Magica; as our absurd societal pretensions against animation leave TV channels unkeen on the idea of picking up animated programming of that type unless they can be sure it appeals to the already existing fanbase for Japanese animation, and even then, they're often still not keen on that.
But, at the end of the day, the west is unlikely to produce something like Eva, Lain, or Madoka Magica; as our absurd societal pretensions against animation leave TV channels unkeen on the idea of picking up animated programming of that type unless they can be sure it appeals to the already existing fanbase for Japanese animation, and even then, they're often still not keen on that.
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