The General Anime Thread...

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Today's mobile suit is the second variation, devised by the AGE System, a variation that emphasizes speed, agility, and mobility, welcome the AGE-1S Gundam Spallow.

The AGE-1S is the final evolution of the base AGE-1, weighing a full 10 tons less (33.4 metric tons vs. 43.4 metric tons), the emphasis is purely on CQC, and blisteringly fast CQC at that...as evident by it's much thinner frame. Spallow is the answer to the high speed UE counterpart, Zedas, and was devised during an encounter between it and the AGE-1T (Titus), which places an emphasis on physical attacks and armored protection - much akin to that of a mobile armor.

At current, Spallow has only used two weapons: it's primary Sigil Blade, which is a short sword capable of slicing through anything and sports a green blade which is reminiscent to the "GN" weapons from Gundam 00 - if that's anything to go by, the blade isn't superheated, it uses a surrounding field of sub-atomic particles to sheer through alloys like butter - which is exactly what it did to the Zedas. With the second being the Needle Gun concealed in the knees.
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Cant wait to see what else the UE throws at the gundam. Love the design of the Zedas(reminds me of a Flag). Heavy artillery type age gundam next ? I guess.
 
TheCorvette
Did it involve why titles come out here like 1-2 years later
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Yes.


Haganai ep. 11:

So the story is finally starting to pass. It's funny, I love this show, but don't care one bit about the story.

Also RIKA OMG <3!
 
TheCorvette
Then explain Japan's situation, especially when their prices are ridiculous?
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...of-blu-ray-sales-in-japan-in-1st-half-of-2011
It should be noted DVD sales fell because DVD is being phased out. Japan loves BD so much, I wouldn't be surprised if DVD didn't last another 10 years.
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And this has what to do with the US market or that the link you posted showed the vast majority of the industry was merchandise rather than DVDs and Blu-Ray?

TheCorvette
Their prices are these. This stuff actually sells pretty well, and is the reason why they're able to make enough money back, because it's priced so high.
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/search3.html?q=Madoka+Magica&media=blu-ray&r=any&step=20&order=score
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/search3.html?q=Yu+Yu+Hakusho&media=blu-ray&r=any&step=20&order=score
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/search3.html?q=Steins;Gate&media=dvdonly&r=any&step=20&order=score
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Um, okay? Most things tend to cost more everywhere but the US, so you've not pointed out anything new here as well. And I mean most everything...

TheCorvette
So the "global economy being poor" doesn't really apply to Japan who's economy has been crap since the 1990's. Back to America.
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Again, what? Like, honestly, you haven't made a single point that has to do with the decline in sales in regard to the US market. Which is going to handle the entire thing very differently due to the rather niche nature of that market.

The US market lost $200 million in anime sales since 2003, it seems. Merchandise dropped many, many times that. Anime DVD and BD sales are less than 10% of the industry in the US, so again, poor economy is going to make people question buying that $100 Miku figurine.

TheCorvette
Part of the situation with anime in America does have to do with the economy, but it was already having problems before the economy went to crap (Look at before 2008.). Other factors for that are anime getting cheaper (Yes, less money went in because it became chaper.) and piracy. It's become significantly easier to pirate a series than in the early 2000's.
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The economy started going to crap long before 2008, so again, your point? To get a complete series of anime use to be a huge investment in DVDs, and now you can do it on BD. For cheap. I saw several series for under $20, complete, on BD just over the Thanksgiving break.

I also have a feeling you weren't actively involved with the anime community in the early 2000's, based on what you are saying. Between IRC, torrents, and the other various p2p systems, it wasn't hard. You basically had to understand a search engine, and maybe spend 15 minutes figuring out IRC. Now it is mostly just torrents, though some out of country sites do a lot of direct serving, regardless.

Waiting for official translations and market changes was generally a multi year process, where as I could hop online and grab something that aired 2 days ago, with subs (often better or more accurate as well), rather than waiting for it to be licensed and then released in the US market.

TheCorvette
On anime becoming cheaper, the $30 4 episode singles started to disappear completely in 2009, and in 2010, it was very rare for anime to be released in singles, and when they were, it was for $20.It is very appealing, and fits the character's.
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So you mean the industry realized they were charging too much? Dang. And that would also explain why sales figures are reduced for DVD and BD, because they aren't going for as much now.

Honestly, if you are going to say fansubbing has greatly hurt the Anime industry in the North America, you might want to not undermine your own argument, and understand that the DVD and BD sales are a very, very small part of the money here.
 
^ I do remember this pic in the funny pic thread:

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I suppose we are doomed :lol:

Loliblade ver2
It may be better, but some people prefer watching a show.
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Yep. I prefer watching anime a lot more than reading manga. Even though anime comes along with so much bulls*** sometimes, like censoring :mad:

And fillers... oh man, I can't stand fillers :ouch:

Dravonic
Offtopic: Skyrim gave me a big scare today. I was about to call it an epic fail, but luckily it wasn't what I feared :3
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I take this back. I was hoping it was much bigger than I initially though, but it turns out it had only a couple of hours more... Why does it have to be so short? Damn, such an epic main quest fail... and I was loving the whole Dragonborn stuff too.

Pffff, seriously disappointed right now.
 
I just watched GC's ep 10 intro.....
cannot unsee that disappointment, Shu....These damn writers need to stop making him wimp out at the last second.... I HATE IT.
 
Dravonic
Yep. I prefer watching anime a lot more than reading manga. Even though anime comes along with so much bulls*** sometimes, like censoring :mad:

And fillers... oh man, I can't stand fillers :ouch:



I take this back. I was hoping it was much bigger than I initially though, but it turns out it had only a couple of hours more... Why does it have to be so short? Damn, such an epic main quest fail... and I was loving the whole Dragonborn stuff too.

Pffff, seriously disappointed right now.
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At least you dont have to play the bugged PS3 version. I guess the epic side quests make up for the shortness (sorry for the offtopic reply)

Worst censored series of the year Blood C
 
Dravonic
I take this back. I was hoping it was much bigger than I initially though, but it turns out it had only a couple of hours more... Why does it have to be so short? Damn, such an epic main quest fail... and I was loving the whole Dragonborn stuff too.

Pffff, seriously disappointed right now.
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I don't think I've even done any of the main story quests. Been having too much fun doing other stuff.


And now it's time to go to sleep. I am le tired. Night all!
 
AOS-
Omg Cody. No!!!!
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Sorry, it is just I've debated piracy, DRM, copyright, and actual damage to the various industries involved so many times, and it just is one of the button topics.

That, and most anything else. For topics that will get me going :dopey:

Also, Shu is a total wimp. Kid needs to grow some balls, good grief.

And it seems Corvette is working on some response. Oh boy!
 
Azuremen
And this has what to do with the US market or that the link you posted showed the vast majority of the industry was merchandise rather than DVDs and Blu-Ray?



Um, okay? Most things tend to cost more everywhere but the US, so you've not pointed out anything new here as well. And I mean most everything...
That is true, but I was making a point that despite those high costs, it actually sells there. The "global economic crisis" didn't really affect them. The US market however keeps going to crap every year.


Again, what? Like, honestly, you haven't made a single point that has to do with the decline in sales in regard to the US market. Which is going to handle the entire thing very differently due to the rather niche nature of that market.

The US market lost $200 million in anime sales since 2003, it seems. Merchandise dropped many, many times that. Anime DVD and BD sales are less than 10% of the industry in the US, so again, poor economy is going to make people question buying that $100 Miku figurine.
Yes, but what about those S.A.V.E edition DVD and BD's from FUNimation? Own a whole season of a show for $30 (That's MSRP, it's around $20 or lower depending on where you shop.).

Also, most of the merchandise here is on Pokemon. Pokemon is big with kids here, and it shouldn't be surprising it's the biggest money maker in anime merchandise. Remove Pokemon, and you would see DVD and BD make up a much larger portion of the anime market.


The economy started going to crap long before 2008, so again, your point? To get a complete series of anime use to be a huge investment in DVDs, and now you can do it on BD. For cheap. I saw several series for under $20, complete, on BD just over the Thanksgiving break.

I also have a feeling you weren't actively involved with the anime community in the early 2000's, based on what you are saying. Between IRC, torrents, and the other various p2p systems, it wasn't hard. You basically had to understand a search engine, and maybe spend 15 minutes figuring out IRC. Now it is mostly just torrents, though some out of country sites do a lot of direct serving, regardless.

Waiting for official translations and market changes was generally a multi year process, where as I could hop online and grab something that aired 2 days ago, with subs (often better or more accurate as well), rather than waiting for it to be licensed and then released in the US market.
I wasn't involved back then yes. The waiting time would be like two years before we saw a show come here usually as I've noticed. InuYasha premiered in 2000 in Japan, it came here in 2002. Bleach premiered in Japan in 2004, it premiered here in 2006.

Though these days, you get these legal simulcasts. One Piece you can watch the latest episode an hour after the Japanese airing for free. Guilty Crown, FUNimation is giving people the option to watch the show an hour after Japan. Aniplex USA, they're giving people the chance to watch Fate/Zero live as that same episode is airing on Japanese TV, meaning they're practically watching it with Japanese viewers.

No fansubber is faster than that, none, especially the last example. The amount of ground made in the anime industry in the past couple years is astounding. Simulcasts are just everywhere now, everywhere. It's making fansubs become obsolete in various ways as fansubbers just fansubbed a series to increase popularity, and try to get it licensed here.

Waiting on official translations takes you hardly any time now, except if the show is not being simulcasted. However, it's unreasonable to think everything will be. You need a lot of money for this stuff.


So you mean the industry realized they were charging too much? Dang. And that would also explain why sales figures are reduced for DVD and BD, because they aren't going for as much now.
Charging too much? I could agree a bit on that, but for the prices now, definitely not overpriced. This is a niche market. This stuff has to be priced higher for them to make a profit. Clearly them making the prices go down means that it wasn't the best idea to do such a thing however. That's one factor.
Honestly, if you are going to say fansubbing has greatly hurt the Anime industry in the North America, you might want to not undermine your own argument, and understand that the DVD and BD sales are a very, very small part of the money here.
Oh, so those who just torrent and never buy are not hurting the industry here at all? Even if they were big fans, and decided to just say screw the companies and not buy?

We've seen companies here collapse who rely basically entirely on DVD and BD sales as that's the main way they get money. Let's go down a list shall we...
-Central Park Media filed for bankruptcy about 2-3 years ago and is dead
-Geneon Entertainment died here in 2009
-ADV Films resurfaced itself as multiple different companies, and lost a ton of titles in the process. They were the biggest licensor, now they're one of the smallest (As Sentai Filmworks). I still remember seeing this thing like it happened yesterday.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...huts-down-transfers-assets-to-other-companies
-VIZ Media had two big layoffs in 2009 and 2010 despite having many cash cows. Naruto couldn't help them prevent that.

These companies releasing the shows here rely basically entirely on those DVD and BD sales.
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I like how each ending in GC is different in that it reflects on the situation of each episode's aftermath.
 
Prepare for things to get ugly, most definitely ugly. You have no idea how I can get when it comes to piracy and the current situation of anime. I've argued on this oh so many times, and it's resulted in many, many flame wars before.
 
AOS-
I like how each ending in GC is different in that it reflects on the situation of each episode's aftermath.
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I've noticed as well. It's neat seeing the different animations and I always enjoy watching Inori walk :3
 
TheCorvette
Prepare for things to get ugly, most definitely ugly. You have no idea how I can get when it comes to piracy and the current situation of anime. I've argued on this oh so many times, and it's resulted in many, many flame wars before.
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Well for starters, since I haven't been following this discussion between you and Azuremen...

What is the current situation of anime?
 
North America: It's going to crap.
Japan: It hit it's peak in 2006, and went downhill for a while, but it is improving. Anime sales went up this year.
 
TheCorvette
North America: It's going to crap.
Japan: It hit it's peak in 2006, and went downhill for a while, but it is improving. Anime sales went up this year.
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Well saying that is one thing, but proving it is another. And I'd say proving it is crucial to the rest of your argument.

So where's the data to back up these claims?
 
TheCorvette
Prepare for things to get ugly, most definitely ugly. You have no idea how I can get when it comes to piracy and the current situation of anime. I've argued on this oh so many times, and it's resulted in many, many flame wars before.
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Please learn to multi-quote.

I'm honestly unsure how to respond to what you stated prior, because so much of it is unrelated, pointless hypothetical, and things are just wrong or misinformed. It is pretty clear why it would result in flame wars, as you've yet to provide relevant data, at all, or support even your own argument.

The reason Simulcast exists is because of fansubbing. And you will see a lot less of it as more studios do this. It is called learning to compete, and it only helps the industry develop further, rather than stagnating.

Again, the sales of the actual media are trivial to the gains from merchandise. It would be like arguing that downloading music hurts the musicians, when it is well known the majority of their money comes from tours.

So, please, if you want to be adamant about something, take the time to formulate a solid argument, with relevant evidence, and perhaps a broader consideration of the many factors involved.
 
Azuremen
Please learn to multi-quote.

I'm honestly unsure how to respond to what you stated prior, because so much of it is unrelated, pointless hypothetical, and things are just wrong or misinformed. It is pretty clear why it would result in flame wars, as you've yet to provide relevant data, at all, or support even your own argument.

The reason Simulcast exists is because of fansubbing. And you will see a lot less of it as more studios do this. It is called learning to compete, and it only helps the industry develop further, rather than stagnating.

Again, the sales of the actual media are trivial to the gains from merchandise. It would be like arguing that downloading music hurts the musicians, when it is well known the majority of their money comes from tours.

So, please, if you want to be adamant about something, take the time to formulate a solid argument, with relevant evidence, and perhaps a broader consideration of the many factors involved.
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That isn't why, it's from the other party failing to understand certain things, like failing to understand anime is a niche market, or how the anime bubble burst here in the US. The anime boom is long over. I could go more in-depth and post examples, but you'd probably blow it off.

At this point, I think you're just trolling. Not going to bother with this at this point.
 
TheCorvette
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-04-15/america-2009-anime-market-pegged-at-us$2.741-billion
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...of-blu-ray-sales-in-japan-in-1st-half-of-2011
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/new...-group-head-says-anime-is-a-bubble-that-burst
Is that enough?
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So sales in the US did indeed sharply decline in 2010.

Now, what about 2011 sales? Maybe the 2010 sales were just an anomoly?

And after you can show that the low '10 sales weren't an anomaly, can you prove that piracy was what caused it? Maybe it was just shoddy overpriced releases and/or a lack of compelling new content? Or perhaps it was just the economy in general?

All I know is that I bought a 🤬-ton of anime in 2010... :lol:
 
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