The Graphics
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TokyoDrift
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You are entitled to your own opinion but you are overreacting.
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- cooldawn
I wouldn't worry about the visual side of things for now guys. It's a 219MB file and we've seen better at TGS.
GT1 looks rough round the edges but at the time we all thought it was amazing. If you showed us this demo and said in 2009 you will be playing GT that looks like this we would have been very happy. The graphics on previous games don't really change from the prologue version to the full game, I'm not sure what people are expecting exactly. The PS3 has never claimed to make perfect photo realistic games, it has its limitations like every other console ever made.
Not sure on exact numbers but this demo contains 2 cars and one track. If you assume the track is 100mb and each car and data is 50mb then multiply that by 800 cars that we are getting in GT5 then that's nearly 40gb of data already so I don't see how the graphics can get better once you add all the extra content into GT5.
Not sure on exact numbers but this demo contains 2 cars and one track. If you assume the track is 100mb and each car and data is 50mb then multiply that by 800 cars that we are getting in GT5 then that's nearly 40gb of data already so I don't see how the graphics can get better once you add all the extra content into GT5.
TokyoDrift
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File size means nothing - just go here http://www.farb-rausch.com/prods.py and download some of the 64KB demos to learn about a thing called compression.
Exactly why this is bad news because we now know how bad the final game is going to be relative to Prologue...
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- (GTP_) dustdriver
You don't know how bad the final game is going to be. It's still a demo with limited size with the purpose of letting us test the new physics and allowing us to enter in a competition.
If you hate it that much, go play something else.
If you hate it that much, go play something else.
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- ShePearl
TokyoDrift,
Let's clear two things out of the way.
1. We're disappointed in graphics part of this demo, right?
Physics-wise.. from 2 hours of solid play, I'm loving updated/improved physics. Definitely improved over 2007 Prologue. Overall, I feel very positive about final GT5 in terms of physics. In terms of graphics, now, I think it's even worse than 2007 Prologue. I still have 2007 Prologue installed on my PS3, comparing back and forth.. this demo indeed looks worse than 2007 Prologue. (My observation).
2. File size. *Installed* demo occupies indeed about 204 MB in size on HDD. This means the demo is really small in size.
This is not the case where compressed file for download is small and once it's installed/extracted, file size gets a lot bigger.
Let's clear two things out of the way.
1. We're disappointed in graphics part of this demo, right?
Physics-wise.. from 2 hours of solid play, I'm loving updated/improved physics. Definitely improved over 2007 Prologue. Overall, I feel very positive about final GT5 in terms of physics. In terms of graphics, now, I think it's even worse than 2007 Prologue. I still have 2007 Prologue installed on my PS3, comparing back and forth.. this demo indeed looks worse than 2007 Prologue. (My observation).
2. File size. *Installed* demo occupies indeed about 204 MB in size on HDD. This means the demo is really small in size.
This is not the case where compressed file for download is small and once it's installed/extracted, file size gets a lot bigger.
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the graphics are probably final and so is the track, people expect way too much from a 3 year old 256mB graphic card, and even then it was a mid range one, any decent computer graphic card with 512 cost at least half the PS3 price, yes it's upscaled, yes it's plain, if you want something more organic it's in 720p like uncharted 2.
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TokyoDrift
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- mileret
Because of HDR game engine measuring the exposition from most of the cockpit, the outside is highlighted and washed out. Advantage? You can finally say that cockpits are not too dark. After all, I am against this type of HDR engine, I am already overeaten of it and all its colour shifting and washed out places already from Prologue. Although it's recreating wery well what average digital camera can capture from dynamic range of lights and shadows, we are just used to see the world in full range in our eyes and common rendering of GT4 type was much more natural when it comes to dynamic range and colours for our eyes.
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Point 1: Fair enough, you prefer the new physics. I don't. But, we agree it looks worse.
Point 2:You make the incorrect assumption that 204MB installed equates to 204MB used in memory. Not the case.
Uhh in response to what you said about the graphics. I'm hoping you realise that this is just a short demo to demonstrate the new physics engine. The graphics aren't as good as people are expecting because it's just a friggin demo. Go back and watch the gameplay from the Tokyo Game Show. The graphics were incredible much better than prologue. This demo isn't what the final game will look like.
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- chepu_VE
Point 1: Fair enough, you prefer the new physics. I don't. But, we agree it looks worse.
Point 2:
I Prefer the New Physics, the Graphics are Pretty Much What I expected(Good Graphics), lets wait for another Track.
Now, Off-Topic.
You Sir Tokyo Drift, you are what People Knows as a Hater with Troll Influences, Why? 99% of your Comments are flamebaits, If the Game comes with Better graphics in the final Build, with the most realistic Physics and GRiD-Like Damage, I BET (Yes, read it) I BET, that you, among some Trolls Will be the only ones Complaining about all those Things.
So, If you hate Gran Turismo all that Much, or in this Case the Demo, what are you doing here? Trolling?...I believe so:idea:
Oh, and why Not, an example of what and how you Do it
See, the Reasonably Priced Car thread:
Then This Guy Quoted me
BAM! someone likes the Idea, and you just cant stand that, so you had to reply
See?
What was the point of that comment? Trolling.Long Story Short: Never pay attention to this Dude.
On Topic again:
See, the Indianapolis, and a lot of Nascar Tracks are bland,Dull or boring in what scenery refers, I've been to Daytona, and its as Dull as the Game Version, so I knew it was going to be like that
other Thing i noticed was, Few jaggies, the interior ones are still visible though.
Also I tried the image setting in Crisp, it looked waay more crisp than Prologue, so In General, the Graphics are Good, really Good:tup:
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- dw-alba
It's just the track that gives you a wrong impression because it's a pretty barebone track, that is all. I played and replayed the GT5 Impreza WRC Gamescom demo for like 6hours in a single day and it looked amazing. This demo is the same to me except the track is a bit boring to look at and the cockpit shadows are way smoother.
Now feel free to flame away TokyoDrift! :]
Now feel free to flame away TokyoDrift! :]
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- KaAre_kaNin
One thing I noticed was that 720p looks better now then on gt5p. I have a 720p tv, but on gt5p 1080p mode looks much better, now on this demo 720p native looks way better. Almost no jaggies
Just wish I had a full hd tv to get full potentsial 
Just wish I had a full hd tv to get full potentsial
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Havent read through the whole thread, but just wanted to say that driving physics is more important to me than graphics... If they have to take a bit away from the graphics to improve on the physics engine and to be able to put in all features Im all for it!
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- KaAre_kaNin
Spot on Blitz 
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True. Good think bud. I rather to have the best physics over graphics.
Hey I am deaf.
I will give you an example.
English: Hello My name is Brandon
ASL (American Signs Language): Hello Mine name brandon.
A lot of deaf people do writing in ASL. Sorry so blame who's made idea of ASL haha.
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- Burnout_PT
How can anyone have decent idea of "Graphics" on a stale looking track, with one car...?
And no, it did not take 5 years to do "this".
And "this" is not even a "game", it's just an online time trial. There are no objectives, trials, licenses, or actual racing even! It's just a frekin' online time-trial for GT Academy, also being used to demo the new physics engine, and the players response to it.
I know that's hard on some people that basically only know how to post that kind of stuff... but save the whining about the graphics (or anything else not regarding the physics and the time-trial) to when the real GT5 comes out.
Edit: please?
And no, it did not take 5 years to do "this".
And "this" is not even a "game", it's just an online time trial. There are no objectives, trials, licenses, or actual racing even! It's just a frekin' online time-trial for GT Academy, also being used to demo the new physics engine, and the players response to it.
I know that's hard on some people that basically only know how to post that kind of stuff... but save the whining about the graphics (or anything else not regarding the physics and the time-trial) to when the real GT5 comes out.
Edit: please?
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I did, i tried Sharpen first and there wasn't much of a difference. Then i tried Flicker Reduction and there was a big difference imo. When playing Prologue and this demo there were still those white jaggies on the lines of the car, with this option on those have all disappeared and the game looks sharp as day now! Wohoo! Flicker Reduction is a great feature for anyone who had this problem before.
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