The GT Sport Epic Whining and Crying Thread

[Alpha Cipher]

I’m beginning to get fed up with this game now , another update that’s taken off all the records in the mission challenge’s and liecene tests ect . I am not doing any of the older ones again , why can’t pd just leave it alone and put our times back how they were pre latest update.

Because of the new tire model

 

[Endless-Wilso]

The ONE thing i had to look forward too , to boot the game up everyday and try my hand against the world's best in the daily races and they go a make them weeklies! ???

 

[ScottPuss20]

The ONE thing i had to look forward too , to boot the game up everyday and try my hand against the world's best in the daily races and they go a make them weeklies! ???

It's really lame. Honestly.

 

[Tired Tyres]

The ONE thing i had to look forward too , to boot the game up everyday and try my hand against the world's best in the daily races and they go a make them weeklies! ???

Enjoy them before they become fortnightly and after that monthly....

 

[BigJimmy]

Because of the new tire model

It's their way of adding more content.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

It's their way of adding more content.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

(I guess it's okay to double post since it's been a while since my last and it's a separate topic?)

I swear, it's the players that make this game bad, not the game itself everyone, I mean, everyone outside of GTP is talking about the new MTs like it's a bad thing. I'm pretty sure they don't even know the specifics of it. What the hell gives that makes MTs such a bad thing? The mention of MTs makes everyone so toxic I'm seriously considering tearing away all my online connections to any GTS community save for GTP because of it. The headlines and the way the media presents this news is very poor as well, GTP probably only being the only exception. This could've been done much more objectively and unbiased. I'm not gonna deny the fact that Kaz did break his no MT promise but really, are you really going to be that toxic over that? If it is enough of a reason, please, elaborate. I am very curious on your reasoning

It's not like it's only for GTS either- even Forza's getting so much flak for their prize crate system. And you don't even have to pay for the damn thing. I'd understand if there are cars exclusive to the prize crates or that if there's a competitive advantage by doing so, but no there is absolutely none of that in prize crates. Hell, I don't play Forza but I know this stuff, why are their playerbase so ignorant (and if not, toxic) about this piece of information? Because there are some cars that used to be exclusive to prize crates? Turn 10 listened, and they took it out. Get over it already?

Thank God for GTP and its reasonable community. You guys are so rational to talk to compared to most other online communities I'm in

 

[Rinsky]

(I guess it's okay to double post since it's been a while since my last and it's a separate topic?)

I swear, it's the players that make this game bad, not the game itself everyone, I mean, everyone outside of GTP is talking about the new MTs like it's a bad thing. I'm pretty sure they don't even know the specifics of it. What the hell gives that makes MTs such a bad thing? The mention of MTs makes everyone so toxic I'm seriously considering tearing away all my online connections to any GTS community save for GTP because of it. The headlines and the way the media presents this news is very poor as well, GTP probably only being the only exception. This could've been done much more objectively and unbiased. I'm not gonna deny the fact that Kaz did break his no MT promise but really, are you really going to be that toxic over that? If it is enough of a reason, please, elaborate. I am very curious on your reasoning

It's not like it's only for GTS either- even Forza's getting so much flak for their prize crate system. And you don't even have to pay for the damn thing. I'd understand if there are cars exclusive to the prize crates or that if there's a competitive advantage by doing so, but no there is absolutely none of that in prize crates. Hell, I don't play Forza but I know this stuff, why are their playerbase so ignorant (and if not, toxic) about this piece of information? Because there are some cars that used to be exclusive to prize crates? Turn 10 listened, and they took it out. Get over it already?

Thank God for GTP and its reasonable community. You guys are so rational to talk to compared to most other online communities I'm in

Of all the things I'm upset about MT's are not one of them. They did it in such a way that it absolutely effects nobody.
I was all excited at first because I thought I would finally get to buy the 2 20m credit cars I don't have but soon found out that's not the case.

In this day and age people want everything for free and don't want to work or pay for anything even in real life so it doesn't surprise me that a bunch of people are bitching about it.

 

[PzR Slim]

Of all the things I'm upset about MT's are not one of them. They did it in such a way that it absolutely effects nobody.
I was all excited at first because I thought I would finally get to buy the 2 20m credit cars I don't have but soon found out that's not the case.

In this day and age people want everything for free and don't want to work or pay for anything even in real life so it doesn't surprise me that a bunch of people are bitching about it.

Didn't realise you got your copy of the game for free! If only the rest of us had known we could do that!

 

[TonyJZX]

Didn't realise you got your copy of the game for free! If only the rest of us had known we could do that!

This argument revolves around a full priced game having MTX.

Thing is I didnt pay full price for this and further, MTX for cars has been a long standing tradition going back to GT5, Forza 4... I get that in an altrustic sense I am against MTX however I can afford every car under $2 mil. - many times over, just like 99% of us here so these MTX has no effect on us, only casuals.

So if they want to soak casuals for change I really dont feel that that's a hill I'm going to die on.

Further I wish they had MTX on all cars.

I have no issue at this point paying a few bucks for a Miura or a 250gto or XJ13 or 330p4 or...

 

[PzR Slim]

This argument revolves around a full priced game having MTX.

Thing is I didnt pay full price for this and further, MTX for cars has been a long standing tradition going back to GT5, Forza 4... I get that in an altrustic sense I am against MTX however I can afford every car under $2 mil. - many times over, just like 99% of us here so these MTX has no effect on us, only casuals.

So if they want to soak casuals for change I really dont feel that that's a hill I'm going to die on.

Further I wish they had MTX on all cars.

I have no issue at this point paying a few bucks for a Miura or a 250gto or XJ13 or 330p4 or...

I love these arguments! Good for you, however, what about all the people who did pay full price for the game?

And I agree, any normal player can afford every car under 2M with credits. However, quite a few people, maybe even the majority, are going to struggle to make enough credits to buy the 20M cars. And if they use their credits to buy the under 2M cars that means they are further reducing their chances of being able to buy the 20M because they have spent all their credits on the under 2M cars,

So presently you can't buy the 20M cars with real cash but their is an incentive for those who want the 20M cars to spend real cash on the under 2M cars thereby saving their credits to eventually buy the 20M cars.

 

[ShiftingGears]

There have been only a handful of new cars that are new to the Gran turismo series added over the last year. My gripe is that as far as sport mode goes, these cars aren't even in the game. GT needs to play to its strengths.

 

[jof]

Why in this day and age when you don't have a suitable car for an event do you have to come right back out to the home screen and then enter the dealerships? Why can't you be taken straight to a list of compatible cars to purchase straight away. Gran Turismo: The real wasting my time simulator!

This! And on top of that there is an event for only "certain GrX cars", that they don't bother listing. Found them by googling, but shouldn't have had to.

 

[Rinsky]

Didn't realise you got your copy of the game for free! If only the rest of us had known we could do that!

Well the game has been so discounted at times it's almost been free. Sorry you missed that.

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Of all the things I'm upset about MT's are not one of them. They did it in such a way that it absolutely effects nobody.
I was all excited at first because I thought I would finally get to buy the 2 20m credit cars I don't have but soon found out that's not the case.

In this day and age people want everything for free and don't want to work or pay for anything even in real life so it doesn't surprise me that a bunch of people are bitching about it.

Exactly. MTs are not always a bad thing. It's the execution of MTs. Of course I woule get mad if something is behind a paywall that I couldn't otherwise normally access (partially my problem with new DLC cars in GT5, but they were part of an essentially new game GT5 Spec 2.0 so I'm just irritated that they did that rather than full blown mad), but that's not the case here. Like you said, the MTs are done in a harmless way. I'd go so far as to say that PD limited the MT-able cars to those less than 2 mil to not disappoint the players that grinded probably hours to get those cars. Maybe down the line they'll add the 20m cars when more people have it and when it's less valuable but for now, I can understand their line of thought through there

I really hate the "free but instant" mindset people in general have today. I'm not gonna lie, I also have that mindset (especially on the instant), but at least try and keep it to a tolerable level instead of whining about every single thing that isn't free or instant

 

[Islaygaz]

I love these arguments! Good for you, however, what about all the people who did pay full price for the game?

And I agree, any normal player can afford every car under 2M with credits. However, quite a few people, maybe even the majority, are going to struggle to make enough credits to buy the 20M cars. And if they use their credits to buy the under 2M cars that means they are further reducing their chances of being able to buy the 20M because they have spent all their credits on the under 2M cars,

So presently you can't buy the 20M cars with real cash but their is an incentive for those who want the 20M cars to spend real cash on the under 2M cars thereby saving their credits to eventually buy the 20M cars.

That's certainly my new approach to getting some of the more expensive cars!

 

[TonyJZX]

I love these arguments! Good for you, however, what about all the people who did pay full price for the game?

caveat emptor

when i buy anything, whether its a car in gt sport or a real world car, i think about the cost and what i get

if you buy a game on oct 2017 and dont do any research then that's on you

to put this into perspective i have paid something like $100 in total for forza 6 and reasonably similar amounts for fm7 and horizon 3

I think I barely spent $50 in total for both GTS and GT6.

Its great value to me MTX or not.

 

[PzR Slim]

caveat emptor

when i buy anything, whether its a car in gt sport or a real world car, i think about the cost and what i get

if you buy a game on oct 2017 and dont do any research then that's on you

to put this into perspective i have paid something like $100 in total for forza 6 and reasonably similar amounts for fm7 and horizon 3

I think I barely spent $50 in total for both GTS and GT6.

Its great value to me MTX or not.

Nonesensical!

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Nonesensical!

Why so?

 

[PzR Slim]

Why so?

Simple, that only applies to the posters particular situation. They used the word 'I' repeatedly, even though the shift key appeared to have gone awol for the first part of the post. The question I posed was 'what about all the people who did pay full price for the game?'. I doesn't really come into it.

As I said in the microtransactions thread, they really don't bother me, I just think it's hilarious the mental gymnastics that some posters are prepared to go to counter the genuine points and concerns of others. A cult indeed!

 

[Alpha Cipher]

Simple, that only applies to the posters particular situation. They used the word 'I' repeatedly, even though the shift key appeared to have gone awol for the first part of the post. The question I posed was 'what about all the people who did pay full price for the game?'. I doesn't really come into it.

As I said in the microtransactions thread, they really don't bother me, I just think it's hilarious the mental gymnastics that some posters are prepared to go to counter the genuine points and concerns of others. A cult indeed!

Ahhh, fair point

Adding my own fuel to the fire, I think MTs are still okay whether or not it's a full-priced game, as long as it's handled correctly

 

[PzR Slim]

Ahhh, fair point

Adding my own fuel to the fire, I think MTs are still okay whether or not it's a full-priced game, as long as it's handled correctly

And that is perfectly fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I just take issue with the absolute guff that some people post to counter the perfectly valid opinions of others.

 

[VBR]

I just take issue with the absolute guff that some people post to counter the perfectly valid opinions of others.

Some people tend to confuse opinion with fact. Some people speak in absolutes when there are actually multiple valid viewpoints. Some people base their arguments on Anecdotal Fallacies. A one size fits all approach never fits all, except in the mind of the deluded person making it.

I seriously think that logical fallacies & biases should be on the national curriculum in every country; it would make the world a better place imho.


EDIT: I thought it so important that I started a thread about it: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/logical-fallacies.380596/

 

[Crazy Taylor]

Simple, that only applies to the posters particular situation. They used the word 'I' repeatedly, even though the shift key appeared to have gone awol for the first part of the post. The question I posed was 'what about all the people who did pay full price for the game?'. I doesn't really come into it.

As I said in the microtransactions thread, they really don't bother me, I just think it's hilarious the mental gymnastics that some posters are prepared to go to counter the genuine points and concerns of others. A cult indeed!

Here's my answer to your question.

As I paid the full £50 on day one, I have had ample time on GTS. With this mind, I have played the game enough to not feel the need to use microtransactions in any way. Microtransactions are only really needed to buy digital paperweights, cars that will be driving once and used in Scapes.

 

[PzR Slim]

Here's my answer to your question.

As I paid the full £50 on day one, I have had ample time on GTS. With this mind, I have played the game enough to not feel the need to use microtransactions in any way. Microtransactions are only really needed to buy digital paperweights, cars that will be driving once and used in Scapes.

That's great for you, however, still does not invalidate the legitimate concerns of others.

 

[Crazy Taylor]

That's great for you, however, still does not invalidate the legitimate concerns of others.

But microtransactions in a sense do nothing. You don't get anything exclusive and everything can be bought with credits.

 

[PzR Slim]

But microtransactions in a sense do nothing. You don't get anything exclusive and everything can be bought with credits.

You're entitled to your opinion but what about everyone else who doesn't share it?

 

[Crazy Taylor]

You're entitled to your opinion but what about everyone else who doesn't share it?

I don't really support it either but it doesn't affect anyone as there is no edge to the gameplay, no advantage in microtransactions. There are no events regarding a 15 to 20 million credit car. All cars under 2 Mil ate relatively simple to get.

 

[Stephen220378]

Although I hate MTX in general in any game I've got to say the GT Sport ones aren't really doing any harm being there, it's not like it's pay to win, everything which can be bought with real world money can be bought in-game with GT credits. If people buying cars through MTX means we'll continue getting free cars and tracks regularly then fair enough, at least PD are giving something back, I think people should think about all the free updates we've had since launch (about 70 cars and 6 tracks? don't know the exact figures,) it's not exactly like they're fleecing people of their money.

 

[05XR8]

Again. If someone pays $2 for hot wheels cars. They have to pay for a track. If another person buys a hot wheels combo, it comes with X amount of cars. If same person wants more cars, they have to buy them.

Let's say another person buys a hot wheels combo at a discount, after a different person bought that same combo at full price. It's the same thing we're discussing.

If anyone just want the cars that come with GTS in the set, so be it. It someone wants to pay extra, so be it. This is an option to do so.
Had this been GT6, people would make the choice, do they really want that C7 concept racer and Spa-Francorshamps or can they still be happy with the base game?