The GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread

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Concreterain
Well , I bought it , played abit , and i was reminded why i dont play gt5 any more . There is nothing really wrong with it , but nothing so new and fresh it excites me . While doing a few laps at le mans I decided to rename gt6 , grand turismo de ja vu edition .
I hope others enjoy more but theres no way i will play this as long as gt5. Most of the cars i will never unlock or play with .
If your on the fence about picking this up , i dont belive it will take to long for gt6 to show up second hand
Maybe the track editor when released will change things , Maybe ?.
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Sounds like you have been deflated man? Shame.

There is a market for this game, but sadly it's not me. I hope those who like it keep going. That's why I try and restrict myself to the 🤬 and 🤬 thread
 
Not all starts are rolling in career mode races. I notice all the kart races are "grid starts"', as it calls them.

What is interesting is why the others aren't like that..surely it can't be a system resources/framerate thing because the karts themselves are very well detailed. The AI has to be similar. I can only conclude that PD actually WANT the starts to be rolling, because they better from a gameplay point of view. Which is slightly more concerning really.

Just thought I'd throw that out there...
 
Concreterain
Well , I bought it , played abit , and i was reminded why i dont play gt5 any more . There is nothing really wrong with it , but nothing so new and fresh it excites me .
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I completely agree. I'm having fun but it's mostly due starting using a wheel. The game itself is already starting to feel boring.

The 15TH AE cars suck. Most modifications are blacked out. They're more restricted than standards were in GT5.
The paints are also somewhat strange. There's a lot of them but...no matte black among all those matte colors?
 
WonkyFonk
Sounds like you have been deflated man? Shame.

There is a market for this game, but sadly it's not me. I hope those who like it keep going. That's why I try and restrict myself to the 🤬 and 🤬 thread
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The problem is that GT is all Playstation gamers have for "simulation" racing. If you want something it doesn't offer, you have to look for it on another console.
 
MasamuneDate
The problem is that GT is all Playstation gamers have for "simulation" racing. If you want something it doesn't offer, you have to look for it on another console.
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True that.

Ahhh! I really hoped that patch would do something. In truth, i'm gutted. The urge to drive Brands, Bathhurst, SILVERSTONE (my favourite place and track in the world!). But with no immersive..ness, it kills me. God 🤬 damn it
 
bodger
Not all starts are rolling in career mode races. I notice all the kart races are "grid starts"', as it calls them.

What is interesting is why the others aren't like that..surely it can't be a system resources/framerate thing because the karts themselves are very well detailed. The AI has to be similar. I can only conclude that PD actually WANT the starts to be rolling, because they better from a gameplay point of view. Which is slightly more concerning really.

Just thought I'd throw that out there...
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Let me be vain here and quote myself from another thread ;) :

mister dog
Anyway the whole system with rolling starts, and you starting at the back is just to disguise the lack of challenge in the first place, imagine if you started in third place on a fixed grid; it would be a very lonesome experience straight away.
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I guess with the karts it's different as there is not so much braking and weight transfer involved, so the AI bots are faster? What makes them so utterly slow in general is how they brake in slow corners and the way they always seem to come to a standstill.
 
I think it would be nice to have some kind of poll around here in the forum to everyone rate the game until now. It would demonstrate whether people here are liking or disliking it the most.
 
MasamuneDate
I think it would be nice to have some kind of poll around here in the forum to everyone rate the game until now. It would demonstrate whether people here are liking or disliking it the most.
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Yeah it would be interesting to know the opinions on this forum about the game. This thread is the 'bitter about ex-girlfriend' thread so it's hard to know
 
Great, my semi just went to a softy....Geeesh, I don't even want to pick the game up anymore....smh.
I never really took this game as a serious "race simulator"; I'd get iracing on PC or something else if I were looking for more of a challenge.

Anyway, I'll withhold my comments till I pick it up and play (t minus an hour); hope I don't want to jump off a cliff, like some...lol

EDIT: just realized I was in a cry thread; crap on me...haha
 
So, I did it. I'm proud of myself.
I know I told it before, but that decision was harder than I thought.

I went to my local video games store, and I said to the guy : - "finally, I will not take Gran Turismo 6.
I feel like I'm throwing my money out of the window, so I will wait for now. Prolly till they lower the price to something around twenty bucks."

And I got instead Zelda, a Link between worlds.

I'm angry because I really wanted to try that 1977 Pontiac Trans Am. (Look at my avatar)
But It's not really a good move to buy a whole game for a single car, when almost everything else is pissing the hell out of me.

By the way, I read on Polygon - or was it Eurogamer - something along the lines of "Gran Turismo is still the king".

Well no, it is not. Not anymore.
 
Wow I knew there were a lot of some cars like Skyline's for example but I just watched a clip of the dealerships and there are 17 Honda S2000's! Wtf lol and that's all road going versions of an identical looking car with no major difference in performance. In fact they ALL have 246hp. Where is the logic in that? Just use the highest spec model and be done with it!
 
Ok... Did a 2 lap race at Daytona work 1 friend.
Guess how much I got...



278 credits.
TWO HUNDRED SEVENTY EIGHT.

WTF PD?
 
Wow, reading through the forums, apart from the usual complaints, it looks like the game have some game-breaking bugs and glitches, also, basic features that GT5 had are now removed from GT6.

What is going on?
 
I had a really long whining post typed up, but erased it.

I'll just say this instead. GT can be fixed. The series hasnt gone completely off the deep end like Final Fantasy, but it is heading that way. Kaz knows the sound is bad, so is the damage, etc. I have confidence his team will work on those issues.

My chief concern is the dumbing down of the game for casuals, while little thought is given to the more hardcore. 24 minutes of Le Mans, AI that brakes way too early so they're easy to pass, etc etc. OK fine, give these options so the casuals can enjoy the game too, but do not totally alienate the hardcore audience. Give us an option between the 24 minutes or 24 hours of Le Mans. Dont just kiss the casual's butt and ignore the hardcore. Let us crank the difficulty of the career mode up to 10 and enjoy the challenge. Casuals will even like this if you give them more credits for challenging themselves by slowly cranking the difficulty up as they get better.

I have hope the GT series will return to form on the PS4. I predict 2 year release cycles, as well as some of the legacy issues like sound and damage being addressed properly. They're way too far behind to fix everything wrong with GT in just one more title, but I am expecting some glaring issues to be addressed in the next title.

EDIT: The sound of this - lmao!

anonite
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Its at 80 on metacritic right now. The culmination of 7 years on the PS3 results in a game barely hanging on to a AA rating. For the Playstation's biggest exclusive, this is embarrassing. Really shocked a technical minded website like eurogamer gave it a 9/10 despite all the obvious graphical issues.

Heres hoping the PS3 era was just a big misstep for PD and japanese developers as a whole.

Also, some really bad videos starting to come out



 
Earth
I had a really long whining post typed up, but erased it.

I'll just say this instead. GT can be fixed. The series hasnt gone completely off the deep end like Final Fantasy, but it is heading that way. Kaz knows the sound is bad, so is the damage, etc. I have confidence his team will work on those issues.

My chief concern is the dumbing down of the game for casuals, while little thought is given to the more hardcore. 24 minutes of Le Mans, AI that brakes way too early so they're easy to pass, etc etc. OK fine, give these options so the casuals can enjoy the game too, but do not totally alienate the hardcore audience. Give us an option between the 24 minutes or 24 hours of Le Mans. Dont just kiss the casual's butt and ignore the hardcore. Let us crank the difficulty of the career mode up to 10 and enjoy the challenge. Casuals will even like this if you give them more credits for challenging themselves by slowly cranking the difficulty up as they get better.

I have hope the GT series will return to form on the PS4. I predict 2 year release cycles, as well as some of the legacy issues like sound and damage being addressed properly. They're way too far behind to fix everything wrong with GT in just one more title, but I am expecting some glaring issues to be addressed in the next title.

EDIT: The sound of this - lmao!
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Tell me, please tell me. Why is KAZ not giving a **** about us?
 
I think the reviews say it best: We get it. The physics are amazing for a console racer. The graphics are second to no one. PD are the masters of graphical quality. But what holds GT back are the most basic things to a car game: Sounds, A.I., customization, etc.

GT7 might need a total reboot. But it's safe to say it can return to near perfection with attention to engine notes, customization and A.I. for career mode. And a more current car roster that include more famous manufacturers.
 
The game will get better as time goes by ... GT5 improved a lot within the first year. That said, I am pretty disappointed with GT6 so far.
  • The AI is horrible.

  • I hate the online lobbies not using your PSN ID and forcing your real name (or whatever you entered in the name screen). Seems like a Sony thing trying to force real names since the PS4 does it also. I changed mine and it told me I could only do it again once, ever. Stupid.

  • The License tests all have SRF forced on and are ridiculously easy to gold (at least through the first 10).
I could list many more minor annoyances also, but at this point GT5 > GT6.

Totally agree with the game being dumbed down for noobs/casual/arcade racer fans. SRF was forced on in some of the GT5 license tests, but not all of them. Why even call it a sim if SRF is forced on?
 
You know, if you all think this is the worst game in the history of ever, and thought so from announcement on, there is a solution. Sell it, and the PS3 if it's all you have it for, and buy a Forza game (for those who want looks) or a PC (for those who want realism down to the blades of grass in the infield). You knew what it was, yet you bought it anyway. I know that humans can't live without hating something, but still.

Remember, it could always be DT Racer, or Juiced.
 
BKGlover
You know, if you all think this is the worst game in the history of ever, and thought so from announcement on, there is a solution. Sell it, and the PS3 if it's all you have it for, and buy a Forza game (for those who want looks) or a PC (for those who want realism down to the blades of grass in the infield). You knew what it was, yet you bought it anyway. I know that humans can't live without hating something, but still.

Remember, it could always be DT Racer, or Juiced.
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How about Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing or Initial D Mountain Vengeance?

C'mon, though, most of us are here because we really liked one of the first three or four games in the GT series. Hope is a funny thing; it's not like everyone in this thread who bought it wanted it to be bad. I'm reserving final judgment until I get a chance with a rental on a borrowed PS3, but based on what I've been reading it does sound like just another Gran Turismo game, with the usual lovable quirks and inexplicable screwups.

I'm not impressed with what FM5 has to offer either, and we'll get Live for Speed S3 when they capture bigfoot. I hear Project CARS has iffy physics, and Assetto Corsa would cripple whatever PC I could afford to build, regardless of what it offers in gameplay/physics. These aren't the best days for a sim racer. GT6 has a lot of cool things to offer on paper, so for it to bungle the core racing experience (again) when it has those tantalizing periphery elements is a real shame.
 
Something to do with new updates that have been coming out today, if you did any license tests before updating, they won't show up in your friends rankings. :grumpy:
 
Wolfe
How about Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing or Initial D Mountain Vengeance?
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Know about the first, wasn't aware the second was crap, or existed really.

C'mon, though, most of us are here because we really liked one of the first three or four games in the GT series. Hope is a funny thing; it's not like everyone in this thread who bought it wanted it to be bad. I'm reserving final judgment until I get a chance with a rental on a borrowed PS3, but based on what I've been reading it does sound like just another Gran Turismo game, with the usual lovable quirks and inexplicable screwups.
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I used to go from two sources, my buddies who worked in a VG store, and renting the game from the local Blockbuster. Both are gone, so I usually wait months until all the hoopla dies down. I get that some don't want it to be bad, but that gets lost when all the information comes second or third hand. GT5, for me, I was able to see past a lot of the nitpicks, but still was disappointed overall when I did play it myself. I still think the standard car issue was way overblown.

I'm not impressed with what FM5 has to offer either, and we'll get Live for Speed S3 when they capture bigfoot. I hear Project CARS has iffy physics, and Assetto Corsa would cripple whatever PC I could afford to build, regardless of what it offers in gameplay/physics. These aren't the best days for a sim racer. GT6 has a lot of cool things to offer on paper, so for it to bungle the core racing experience (again) when it has those tantalizing periphery elements is a real shame.
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For some reason, normal Forza bores me and Horizon just ticked me off, and when it comes to PC, I could try to build one over the next 4-5 years, but youtube can stress it out. All that said, as many offerings as we are getting, you're right, the days of the racing sim are not these, and it baffles me that it is the case.
 
BKGlover
Know about the first, wasn't aware the second was crap, or existed really.
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It was budget PC title with broken handling and a drift key -- just a button you hold to switch to "drift" handling -- which is about all you need to know. ;)
BKGlover
I used to go from two sources, my buddies who worked in a VG store, and renting the game from the local Blockbuster. Both are gone, so I usually wait months until all the hoopla dies down. I get that some don't want it to be bad, but that gets lost when all the information comes second or third hand. GT5, for me, I was able to see past a lot of the nitpicks, but still was disappointed overall when I did play it myself. I still think the standard car issue was way overblown.
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I agree that a number of the criticisms hurled at Gran Turismo are overblown nitpicks, but melodrama is the name of the game with any internet forum as large as this, and after getting blasted for having anything negative to say about GT in the past I can't help but be glad the tone has shifted somewhat. Personally the driving itself is my number one concern -- if that part is fun, I don't really care if a car is PS2-looking or if it takes a long time to save up credits -- but I've read enough about the physics and tuning/settings to guess that GT6 is probably not good enough to go out of my way for a PS3...and to read about the same old clunky eccentricities doesn't help. It'll still get a rental on a borrowed console like GT5 did, sooner or later.
 

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