The GT6 Epic Whining and Crying Thread

[kollosson]

PERFECTLY Said my Amigo, I tip my hat off to ya.


Well said, well put & Amen.


Yes allow it to stay on PS3 & option to upgrade for the PS4 for a $10 upgrade like the other TITLES have, COD, Battlefield 4, Assassins Creed Etc. They can still make MONEY that way for I would be happy to pay for it just for the better next generation console graphics why not.

As for GT 7 it can wait 4 to 5 years just as we waited for GT 6 between GT 5, just fix it make it right they been doing this too long to put out such a half done unpolished product out with such a long WAIT since GT 5.

They are the connoisseurs of the simulation car industry we just all feel cheated the ones who don't have the means to purchase a PS3 what do you say to them? GT 6 WILL be obsolete within a year or so, NOW go buy a PS4 & new GT 7 game because they will probably not be having any servers on the PS3 because they will be focusing on the PS4! now THAT'S NOT RIGHT, GT series isn't a year to year game because of the magnitude of time to recreate a game but it's been close to 5 years since GT 5 plenty of time it should of been PERFECT!

As for us who do have a PS4 toss your GT 6 game away from your PS3 & go buy another game again, as in GT 7, C'mon lets be real here, just been lots of false promises, advertising, we just want our fair shake Give us our MONEY'S Worth you been DOING this to long PD to know better then to release a game of this MAGNITUDE & it not being properly finished.

So that being said I hope they do focus on GT 6 like for the NEXT 4 to 5 years like they did in GT 5 now how AWESOME would that be?

It can be done.

What a silly rant, by the way GT5 was released Nov 24th 2010, GT6 December 6, 2013 that's 3 years not 5, numpty

 

[86Debris86]

I don't understand your motivation for visiting this thread. You always turn up, moan at us for moaning and leave. Why do you do it? I'm honestly asking. I just don't get it.

He's a mass-debater.

 

[Concreterain]

How anybody could be so weak as to be bothered by someones post in this thread is beyond me . I can understand wanting prove ect.
In another thread , but here , seriously ? This is the thread for getting your emotional frustration out . Grow a pair !!!

 

[kollosson]

I don't understand your motivation for visiting this thread. You always turn up, moan at us for moaning and leave. Why do you do it? I'm honestly asking. I just don't get it.

I come here cos I love you guys, can't you tell ?

 

[napalmhardcore]

I come here cos I love you guys, can't you tell ?

Well if you love me, where are my flowers?

 

[Johnnypenso]

I don't understand your motivation for visiting this thread. You always turn up, moan at us for moaning and leave. Why do you do it? I'm honestly asking. I just don't get it.

If this were Jeopardy, the question would be, "What is a troll Alex?". Some people see the world as black and white whereas it's mostly shades of gray. People who think in black and white have a hard time understanding nuances and subtlties and don't believe for example, that one can both love the GT series and be critical of it at the same time and viciously so. You're negative about the game therefore you're a troll is sort of how it goes, even if the negativity is borne out by the facts.

 

[fredyellowone]

Over 2 million sales is very good under the circumstances, a lot of folks were disappointed that it was on PS3 especially those that were upgrading to PS4 which was released around the same time...]

PS4 has sold 6,56 million consoles.
PS3 has sold 83,63 million consoles.
So, your "under the circumstances" statement is not making any sense. The big and vast majority of people decided to stay on the PS3 for now. And I really doubt that all the people that purchased the PS4 sold their PS3 either. (Or went broke because of it)

It is the fastest selling console in history

Actually your statement is incorrect. It's : "The PS4 is the fastest selling console in history if we account the first 24 hours." That being said, that point, your point, is not relevant to the topic at hand. Not even close.

The game looks so good who needs next gen...

Errr. ALERT FANBOY SPOTTED!

 

[Latin Avenger]

What a silly rant, by the way GT5 was released Nov 24th 2010, GT6 December 6, 2013 that's 3 years not 5, numpty

Well Ling Dingle, it feels like an ETERNITY! Or maybe your saying it takes more then 3 years to come up with a follow up game, give me as break THAT'S still to loooong & for it to be unfinished yeah it'll seem like 5 years.

 

[Latin Avenger]

Rediculous, GT6 sales are down from GT5, that doesn't mean its a failure, over 2 million sales is very good under the circumstances, a lot of folks were disappointed that it was on PS3 especially those that were upgrading to PS4 which was released around the same time, how many PS4's have been sold to date? it is the fastest selling console in history, so you can strike all those off of potential GT6 purchases, I think, under the circumstances it has done incredibly well and to be honest the game looks so good who needs next gen...

Ridiculous to you buddy, don't like my likes, views or opinions keep to stepping NOT in the mood to bicker on your takes or thoughts of what I think go troll somebody else I'm done with you.

 

[Latin Avenger]

I don't understand your motivation for visiting this thread. You always turn up, moan at us for moaning and leave. Why do you do it? I'm honestly asking. I just don't get it.

He has NOTHING better else to do, but honestly he does make me laugh..... at him that is.

 

[pyrates]

Well Ling Dingle, it feels like an ETERNITY! Or maybe your saying it takes more then 3 years to come up with a follow up game, give me as break THAT'S still to loooong & for it to be unfinished yeah it'll seem like 5 years.

Ridiculous to you buddy, don't like my likes, views or opinions keep to stepping NOT in the mood to bicker on your takes or thoughts of what I think go troll somebody else I'm done with you.

He has NOTHING better else to do, but honestly he does make me laugh..... at him that is.

You might want to quote all of them in one post, no need to triple post.

 

[Latin Avenger]

You might want to quote all of them in one post, no need to triple post.

Thanks Mom, didn't notice it, sorry about that I was in a business meeting, was sneaking texts in and out anything else you see need attending too?

 

[Jimmy_DA]

This has now gotten beyond ridiculous! All of this bickering amongst each other!

It all started because I said it seemed stupid to shut down the thread concerning the 1.06 update in this thread to which Famine had taken some offense too. It was only my opinion and should've just been left at that.

More so this is the "GT6 epic whining & crying thread" - I do not believe the need to reference/support my own personal opinions on such statements. This is a trivial topic and probably set for a bit of fun while we are sick of or bored of playing GT6. Yes playing that's the big matter - IT'S A GAME purely made for entertainment purposes and not all will like or some will dislike certain features.

So in the future if you dislike someone else's opinion keep it to yourself as I said this is such a trivial subject at the end of the day I'm sure we all have more important issues at hand and if not seriously you need to go find something else to do. I'm now considering shutting my account due to the fact none of this matters at the end of the day - in 10 years time our PS3's will have packed it in and carked it. With GT6 becoming a long forgotten disc that none of us will be able to use anymore.

 

[Imari]

Rediculous, GT6 sales are down from GT5, that doesn't mean its a failure, over 2 million sales is very good under the circumstances

We don't know how much GT6 cost to make. 2 million sales may not even cover their costs.

 

[pyrates]

Thanks Mom, didn't notice it, sorry about that I was in a business meeting, was sneaking texts in and out anything else you see need attending too?

Really no need for the attitude. I was just hinting to something you should avoid.

 

[Jimmy_DA]

We don't know how much GT6 cost to make. 2 million sales may not even cover their costs.

Also depends on what you use to measure success - sales is only one thing. A lot doesn't necessarily mean a success if the product is a flop and destroys the companies reputation and struggles in sales for the next line of the product - for example. Just a thought

 

[Jimmy_DA]

About the update; I'm anxious for the full patch notes. I truly hope the data logger isn't the only thing we see in 1.06. My patience with PD to release something, anything, that a majority of GT players would actually like to see is so very thin now.

Back on topic as 86Debris86 said - I too am looking forward to seeing what the new update intails. I wouldn't be surprised if we see the course maker included also as it has been a few months now since the game has been released and the data logger kinda goes in hand with the course maker. Since the data logger isn't fully PD's development as it comes from the car manufacturers CAN chip (sorry I'm not exactly sure on its details as it doesn't matter to me) that PD would had to be working on something in the time since.

 

[Latin Avenger]

Really no need for the attitude. I was just hinting to something you should avoid.

A nice PM would of been nice instead of a ....You might want too......& single one out in this post, use Your etiquette since your into correcting others, let me help you out as well with some of your cronnies around here, ready? here goes...

Hey my friend didn't know if you noticed or realized but a single post would be more welcomed here at GT instead of double/triple posting here, we here at the planet would mostly appreciate it thank you. =)

That's what I do! so I will keep an eye in that & try not to frustrate PEOPLE like you, it was a mistake, but as you can see we loaded up this page of nothing but more garbage then needs be, but I guess we got our point across mistake ME! Social skill YOU! Now learn from them.

 

[pyrates]

A nice PM would of been nice instead of a ....You might want too......& single one out in this post, use Your etiquette since your into correcting others, let me help you out as well with some of your cronnies around here, ready? here goes...

Hey my friend didn't know if you noticed or realized but a single post would be more welcomed here at GT instead of double/triple posting here, we here at the planet would mostly appreciate it thank you. =)

That's what I do! so I will keep an eye in that & try not to frustrate PEOPLE like you, it was a mistake, but as you can see we loaded up this page of nothing but more garbage then needs be, but I guess we got our point across mistake ME! Social skill YOU! Now learn from them.

You are overreacting. Want some flowers with that PM next time?

 

[TokoTurismo]

delete

 

[Imari]

Also depends on what you use to measure success - sales is only one thing. A lot doesn't necessarily mean a success if the product is a flop and destroys the companies reputation and struggles in sales for the next line of the product - for example. Just a thought

Certainly, but being unable to cover your own costs is not sustainable long term.

Even as a loss leader to move hardware for Sony, I seriously doubt that the dollars and cents are going to add up on those numbers. Three years of salaries on 150 employees + rent, utilities and equipment on three sites + development and data acquisition costs + licensing costs + whatever else does not seem likely to me to be covered by PD's cut on 2 million sales + some profit from hardware moved.

While I see what you're saying and agree that sales are not necessarily an indicator of a good game, game companies are at least partially in it for the money. It's the common thread between all games, and the bare minimum is covering your costs so that you can continue to fight another day. A game could be the world's greatest work of art, but if it doesn't make enough money to feed and clothe it's developer I'd hesitate to describe it as a success.

I guess I'm saying that while yes, big sales numbers aren't necessarily success, small sales numbers almost certainly are not success.

 

[Latin Avenger]

You are overreacting. Want some flowers with that PM next time?

How funny! look who's talking, I see your cronnies are liking, move on bro worry about your self, & don't be hitting on me i'm not gay, no flowers for me thanks, give one each to your liking this post buddies.

 

[Jimmy_DA]

Certainly, but being unable to cover your own costs is not sustainable long term.

Even as a loss leader to move hardware for Sony, I seriously doubt that the dollars and cents are going to add up on those numbers. Three years of salaries on 150 employees + rent, utilities and equipment on three sites + development and data acquisition costs + licensing costs + whatever else does not seem likely to me to be covered by PD's cut on 2 million sales + some profit from hardware moved.

While I see what you're saying and agree that sales are not necessarily an indicator of a good game, game companies are at least partially in it for the money. It's the common thread between all games, and the bare minimum is covering your costs so that you can continue to fight another day. A game could be the world's greatest work of art, but if it doesn't make enough money to feed and clothe it's developer I'd hesitate to describe it as a success.

I guess I'm saying that while yes, big sales numbers aren't necessarily success, small sales numbers almost certainly are not success.

On that note, well hopefully PD have retained enough profits to continue and learn from their mistakes with us all possibly seeing a more polished GT7 when it is released - though this time I won't be pre-ordering.

Also I think unfortunately GT has now moved or is moving away from it's core value of being an entertainment luxury but rather a developmental test bed for other motoring concepts and PD has just allowed us to come along for the ride. I'd say they will be covering costs as the project wouldn't have continued or gone ahead. Due to all the marketing and mechanical side going on under PD'S roof, such as their joint partnerships with Nissan & Toyota, the GT Vision and partnerships & advertising associated with GT Academy

 

[Dagger311]

@Latin Avenger You may want to check the AUP and/or the FAQ again...

“Double posting” occurs when a user makes two consecutive posts, one after another. If this is done for no apparent reason, or if the posts are unimportant, “double posting” is looked down upon and may result in a warning or infraction for “spam”. You can edit any of your forum posts on GTPlanet at any time, and this is generally the best option to take if you have more to add to the discussion. However, it is not expressly forbidden, and can be useful in many cases. For example, if a reasonable amount of time has passed or you have significant information to add to the topic, present it in a new post so that others, including thread subscribers, are made aware of the update.

From the FAQ. Same rules apply to triple posting. Don't do it unless it falls under what the faq says is acceptle (which yours weren't) .

But to get back on topic, anyone else noticing the same types of cars behave very similar. For instance, most JDM is very tame and stable, most European supercars are insanely unstable, all classic muscle cars understeer very badly, etc.?

 

[Vagabond]

@Latin Avenger - Do be quiet, there's a good chap. I'll clean up your mess in the morning. There's no charge but if there's any more mess or you're still here carrying on, you might just get taken out with the trash.

You get me?

 

[Samus]

Thorin Cain you are wasting your time mate, there are only two types of people that frequent this site, GT fans and trolls, it does not matter how fair you try to be with your replies someone will start arguing over context or find a negative. It is annoying that the same old stuff is gone over and over but it really doesn't matter, no comments on here will change anything, I doubt PD read stuff on here anyway, I mean if you were them would you? I know I wouldn't. You are right though, not many people on here have the slightest notion what goes into making a video game with the complexity of Gran Turismo 6.

Who are you even talking to? Thorin hasn't posted in here for days.

But yes, you're totally right. In this world there are only two possibilties regarding a product. There are people that are fans of it, and EVERYBODY else that posts about it aren't fans and are just trolling. Spot on. That's exactly it. They're not fans with perfectly reasonable critisism about something they do still like. Nope. Fans or trolls. No in between.

 

[Latin Avenger]

@Latin Avenger - Do be quiet, there's a good chap. I'll clean up your mess in the morning. There's no charge but if there's any more mess or you're still here carrying on, you might just get taken out with the trash.

You get me?

@Latin Avenger You may want to check the AUP and/or the FAQ again...



From the FAQ. Same rules apply to triple posting. Don't do it unless it falls under what the faq says is acceptle (which yours weren't) .

But to get back on topic, anyone else noticing the same types of cars behave very similar. For instance, most JDM is very tame and stable, most European supercars are insanely unstable, all classic muscle cars understeer very badly, etc.?

Thanks Dagger, you would make a great Moderator my friend.

 

[Forester XT]

Certainly, but being unable to cover your own costs is not sustainable long term.

Even as a loss leader to move hardware for Sony, I seriously doubt that the dollars and cents are going to add up on those numbers. Three years of salaries on 150 employees + rent, utilities and equipment on three sites + development and data acquisition costs + licensing costs + whatever else does not seem likely to me to be covered by PD's cut on 2 million sales + some profit from hardware moved.

While I see what you're saying and agree that sales are not necessarily an indicator of a good game, game companies are at least partially in it for the money. It's the common thread between all games, and the bare minimum is covering your costs so that you can continue to fight another day. A game could be the world's greatest work of art, but if it doesn't make enough money to feed and clothe it's developer I'd hesitate to describe it as a success.

I guess I'm saying that while yes, big sales numbers aren't necessarily success, small sales numbers almost certainly are not success.

Good points. That might explain all of the product placement in GT6. I'd love to know how much they get to have cars featured in Seasonal Events, Recommended Cars and Vision GT.

 

[napalmhardcore]

Good points. That might explain all of the product placement in GT6. I'd love to know how much they get to have cars featured in Seasonal Events, Recommended Cars and Vision GT.

I guess it depends who you ask in regards to its success. For example BF4 has sold well, but if you ask the community at large they may have something to say about that.

Edit: Is is even possible to smell over the internet? *Sniffs pits*

Where did everyone go?

 

[Johnnypenso]

But to get back on topic, anyone else noticing the same types of cars behave very similar. For instance, most JDM is very tame and stable, most European supercars are insanely unstable, all classic muscle cars understeer very badly, etc.?

Many JDM are low powered FF's, or FR's, inherently stable. Most of the 4wd JDM's are front engined as well, again, inherently stable. Most of the wilder Euro Supercars are MR's, high powered and often 55+% weight on the back, inherently tending toward instability at the limits. Classic muscle cars did understeer very badly until you hit the throttle.