The Homosexuality Discussion Thread

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I think homosexuality is:

  • a problem that needs to be cured.

    Votes: 88 6.0%
  • a sin against God/Nature.

    Votes: 145 9.8%
  • OK as long as they don't talk about it.

    Votes: 62 4.2%
  • OK for anybody.

    Votes: 416 28.2%
  • nobody's business but the people involved.

    Votes: 765 51.8%

  • Total voters
    1,476
So when a buddhist, hindu or jewish couple marries, they aren't really "married" either?

EDIT: Marriage existed before the Christian religion, so I don't see how your "God" is able to define it.
 
So when a buddhist, hindu or jewish couple marries, they aren't really "married" either?

EDIT: Marriage existed before the Christian religion, so I don't see how your "God" is able to define it.

If it is one adult man marrying one adult woman, then by definition, it is marriage.
 
Slavery: Leviticus 25:44*ff*
"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way."

There's a ton of examples of polygamy in the Bible, and I'm pretty God would have been okay with it since he didn't, you know, banish all of them. Abraham, Samuel, Saul, Solomon and David are all known for having many wives.

For incest, Abraham and his half-sister Sara married. Lot and his daughters also married. And iirc, the son and daughter of David were in an incestuous relationship.
 
Slavery: Leviticus 25:44*ff*
"However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way."

There's a ton of examples of polygamy in the Bible, and I'm pretty God would have been okay with it since he didn't, you know, banish all of them. Abraham, Samuel, Saul, Solomon and David are all known for having many wives.

For incest, Abraham and his half-sister Sara married. Lot and his daughters also married. And iirc, the son and daughter of David were in an incestuous relationship.
Sarah was Abraham's niece. Also, I don't believe Lot ever married his daughters, merely was impregnated by them because he never told them that the entire human race WASN'T wiped out with Sodom.
 
NIV Genesis 20:12
Besides, she really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife.

Niece/Half-Sister, either way it's still incest.
 
It seems like everywhere the homosexuals are treated poorly. Whether its executing gay men by hanging in Iran or a kid is afraid to go to school because he will get beaten for being a homosexual, its disgusting how all of this madness is caused primarily by religion.
 
I am talking about marriage as it pertains to Christianity. The state or country has no businesses defining marriage.
In a church, by a minister, with all their friends and family gathered so that they could proclaim their love to each other join together in holy matrimony before God and those witnesses.

As far as I could tell it was blessed by men of God, not a cloud in the sky, and had no difference from my own wedding.

I don't know what you think the beginning of a marriage requires, but from a religious point of view it looked legitimate. Tell me why it isn't.

And then tell me why non-Christian heterosexuals are married, even if the ceremony is performed by a justice of the peace.
 
It seems like everywhere the homosexuals are treated poorly. Whether its executing gay men by hanging in Iran or a kid is afraid to go to school because he will get beaten for being a homosexual, its disgusting how all of this madness is caused primarily by religion.

QFT
 
It seems like everywhere the homosexuals are treated poorly. Whether its executing gay men by hanging in Iran or a kid is afraid to go to school because he will get beaten for being a homosexual, its disgusting how all of this madness is caused primarily by religion.

It's not too bad here in Canada (Or at least that I know of, I know for sure it's not as bad as the US though). Well where I'm from at least, it's really not a big deal here (except to some kids in high school, but it's high school so I wouldn't really expect much from them anyway).
 
In a church, by a minister, with all their friends and family gathered so that they could proclaim their love to each other join together in holy matrimony before God and those witnesses.

As far as I could tell it was blessed by men of God, not a cloud in the sky, and had no difference from my own wedding.

I don't know what you think the beginning of a marriage requires, but from a religious point of view it looked legitimate. Tell me why it isn't.

And then tell me why non-Christian heterosexuals are married, even if the ceremony is performed by a justice of the peace.

If it is not one adult man and one adult woman, then it is not a marriage. I think I have already explained as much.

Would you like to define "adult" while you're there?

18 or older.
 
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It's not too bad here in Canada (Or at least that I know of, I know for sure it's not as bad as the US though). Well where I'm from at least, it's really not a big deal here (except to some kids in high school, but it's high school so I wouldn't really expect much from them anyway).
I live in Canada too, and in my high school this is a serious problem. I remember in Grade 9 there was this kid who was a brony and he always tells everyone that he's gay to everyone at the school. Now in Grade 10 the kid moved to another school because hes scared to get bullied again.
 
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If it is not one adult man and one adult woman, then it is not a marriage. I think I have already explained as much.
The Christian definition of marriage in this fashion is a redefinition of marriage, an institution which predates your religion by thousands of years. I certainly have already explained as much and, as predicted, you ignored it.

I've also explained the concept of the edit button to you before too. And I'll explain now that using the report button for something you don't like but which isn't against the AUP willl result in the exact opposite action to what you think it will.
 
I doubt the Bible states that.

The Bible doesn't explicitly prohibit it, except that the Bible talks about marrage as being between a man and woman, not between a male and a female. Without actually defining 'woman' there is clearly a distinction between a woman and a girl. But the Bible doesn't attempt to be a complete manual of what is and is not acceptable - such a manual would be infinite in size.

The Christian definition of marriage in this fashion is a redefinition of marriage, an institution which predates your religion by thousands of years. I certainly have already explained as much and, as predicted, you ignored it.

I've also explained the concept of the edit button to you before too. And I'll explain now that using the report button for something you don't like but which isn't against the AUP willl result in the exact opposite action to what you think it will.

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Well if the Christian God is the one, true, God; then it is not a redefinition but simply an affirmation of what is acceptable.

As for reporting, whatever. Sounds like you would ban my account simply because you disagree with my opinion.
 
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Follow the rules of the forum and you won't get banned.
The Bible doesn't explicitly prohibit it, except that the Bible talks about marrage as being between a man and woman, not between a male and a female. Without actually defining 'woman' there is clearly a distinction between a woman and a girl. But the Bible doesn't attempt to be a complete manual of what is and is not acceptable - such a manual would be infinite in size.
So, who says you're a "man" or a "woman" once you reach the age of 18?
Actually, in a lot of states, you're a fully grown-up once you're 21.
 
Follow the rules of the forum and you won't get banned.

So, who says you're a "man" or a "woman" once you reach the age of 18?
Actually, in a lot of states, you're a fully grown-up once you're 21.

So what are the rules of the forum? Don't share my opinion unless it's politically correct?
 
Well if the Christian God is the one, true, God; then it is not a redefinition but simply an affirmation of what is acceptable.
It's a redefinition. Marriage predates Christianity and never meant a monogamous legal relationship between a male and a female for the purposes of procreation until (some parts of) the monotheistic religions decided it did.
As for reporting, whatever. Sounds like you would ban my account simply because you disagree with my opinion.
You reported a post in this thread for "personal insults" when it contained none. And a completely benign post by the same user in a different thread for "asdrgfasd". This rather sounds like you are wasting the staff's time simply because you disagree with someone's opinion.

As for the rules of the forum... you agreed to them before you joined the site. They can be found at the bottom of every page on this site - and in some of the correspondence you've already had with the staff. You may take that as an affirmation of what is acceptable if you wish.
 
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Well if the Christian God is the one, true, God; then it is not a redefinition but simply an affirmation of what is acceptable.
Is He the one and only? You don't sound very certain. I honestly don't know because I don't subscribe but if He existed before Christianity and Christians chose Him because He is the one and only then I'm curious how they knew that.

As for reporting, whatever. Sounds like you would ban my account simply because you disagree with my opinion.
As a literate third party, I was under the impression that @Famine was addressing the misuse of the reporting system which is designed to alert staff of AUP violations, not mere disagreements.
 
Where does it say this exactly?
Once again we have a someone using select bible quotes to re-enforce a selected view, without actually having an understanding of what the whole thing says.

I seriously hope (for the sake of your immortal soul) that you don't wear any clothes with a fabric blend or eat prawns or bacon. /sarcasm

Seriously - If you don't know it then don't centre your argument around it!
 
Once again we have a someone using select bible quotes to re-enforce a selected view, without actually having an understanding of what the whole thing says.

I seriously hope (for the sake of your immortal soul) that you don't wear any clothes with a fabric blend or eat prawns or bacon. /sarcasm

Seriously - If you don't know it then don't centre your argument around it!
Are you referring to linen and wool (shaatnez in Jewish circles)?
 
It does vary depending on translation (some do just have it as mixed fibers), but I believe the original is linen and wool.
Yes that is what we understand it to be as well. A law that transcends human comprehension apparently.

But this is jumping far too off topic. Apologies for the tangent.
 
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