The infamous ultimate supercar thread.

[mPWRD]

If he's serious and can do this, more power to him. If he's destined for fail, let him fail. Then we can laugh at him, after he's failed. If your only purpose here is to piss him off with pointless questions and pessimism, why bother?

This is the right idea.

I love the initiative that you have shown here first and foremost. Rather than shoot you down like a gatling gun I'll go this way and do some more enquiries first.
Good luck anyway.

This is also the right idea.

He is from San Francisco, which last time i checked was in California, USA.

I only go to college in Berkeley, which I mentioned before. That's where I live most of the time, but my family lives about 2 hours away from Chicago.

And with that, please check this out.

https://www.modifiedcartrader.com/s....aspx?itemNumber=9383&txt=1991_Ford_Escort_GT

I mentioned the Ford Escort I did earlier, right? Well, until I find the guy who bought the M3, track him down and get pictures, stay satisfied with this. The 1700 on the left is how much the car cost me. I sold it for 3250.

 

[Smallhorses]

Again, this offers absolutely no proof that you purchased this car, just that the car was sold for $1700 dollars.

What's especially curious is that in this post you claim to be using your M3 as a test bed for your supercar, and yet just 7 days later you're now having difficulty tracking down the guy that's bought it from you?

 

[niky]

When it could've taken a few more minutes of searching to come up with an engine bay shot that matched the car...

C'mon... all of us have pics of our cars... especially those of us who work on them...

Like:

whee!

and:

whee!

SRSLY.

You're here, planning to build a "Supercar". Will build your own engine from scratch. Will build everything from scratch. It's not an unreasonable question to ask if you're serious. Because if you are, some of us here will give serious advice... and have been giving serious advice. But if you're not, well... lock and a one-week ban, for all I care. You're asking for commitments, and the moderators likely see it as their duty to protect other members from entering into contracts with shady characters. I am a member on another forum that actually has a car-design group, and agreeing to be a part of that carries with it a commitment in terms of time and labor. (I participated briefly on the marketing/evaluation side... the manufacturing technicalities are just over my head.) Neither of which you deserve if you're not 100% on the level.

Here's a wild thought... Have the title go: "How would you go about building your own supercar? Practical advice wanted" instead of "I know what I'm doing, haterz go away."

EDIT: This thread deserves a close, especially for the reasons I stated above in relation to the car-design group. Lest some well-meaning soul actually commit to the project without compensation.

 

[mPWRD]

You're here, planning to build a "Supercar". Will build your own engine from scratch. Will build everything from scratch. It's not an unreasonable question to ask if you're serious.

You already know that I'm serious and that I have modified my plans to include many off-the-shelf parts, including the engine (hopefully an N73) and possibly the transmission.

Because if you are, some of us here will give serious advice... and have been giving serious advice.

And I thank you for it. People have been commenting that my plans have changed. You have to take advice, and I did. Hence the changes.

But if you're not, well... lock and a one-week ban, for all I care. You're asking for commitments, and the moderators likely see it as their duty to protect other members from entering into contracts with shady characters.

Now you're going a bit overboard. I am not a "shady character", merely someone willing to do whatever it takes (to a reasonable extent) to realize his dreams. If you guys have enough time to dig through my posts to find loopholes, find my criminal records.

I am a member on another forum that actually has a car-design group, and agreeing to be a part of that carries with it a commitment in terms of time and labor. (I participated briefly on the marketing/evaluation side... the manufacturing technicalities are just over my head.)

Interesting... which one? Merely to browse, not join.

Here's a wild thought... Have the title go: "How would you go about building your own supercar? Practical advice wanted" instead of "I know what I'm doing, haterz go away."

Come to think of it... I'll change it right now. And to reiterate my earlier question: Why do you care?

 

[Azuremen]

We care... well, not too much. It is just amusing to see where this is going now.

So you sold some riced out Escort GT for 3 grand. You claim.

Your story constantly changes. M3 was test bed, and now I think you've claimed you sold it. So what are you driving now, I do wonder?

 

[mPWRD]

Nothing. Unless you count my mom's van on spring break...

 

[Rotary Junkie]

From an M3 to some sort of a van. Hmm.

 

[niky]

Interesting... which one? Merely to browse, not join.

Too bad for you. Wrong country. And it's a utility vehicle. Not very advanced, and utterly grassroots. The biggest discussion has been bringing manufacturing costs down, and cost-of-labor and materials is not my specialty.

Come to think of it... I'll change it right now. And to reiterate my earlier question: Why do you care?

Because it's my (and other people's) time. And my time is money. Probably an utterly ridiculous thing for me to say, seeing as I waste time on an internet forum in my off-hours. But it's my decision how I waste it.

By encouraging people on this forum to be completely truthful in everything they do and say, we waste less of other people's time reading down dead ends and give them more time to pursue other things that might actually see the light of day.

I am an automotive journalist, not by profession, but by vocation. I go to technical briefings, I meet with business people. I meet with tuners and engineers. We do this in an effort to share our love of all things automotive with outsiders. And we encourage backyard builders and dreamers. We try to link them up with people who can help them.

I think the thread should be locked if you are not 100% truthful or serious because someone in your area, who might be of the same inclination as me, might actually give you support that they will then regret giving, if nothing pans out.

I suggest you answer Smallhorses and Azureman's queries, because those are the only ones keeping you alive at this point. If you continue to refuse to do so, I envision things... happening. Nasty things.

 

[neanderthal]

The duck is not passing the smell test...........

 

[mPWRD]

Just wondering... I admit that I was joking/lying about the M3 but I was and still am truthful about everything else... you want to stop pestering me now and give suggestions/feedback like the title of the thread is asking you to?

I am not trolling you or conning you or anything suspicious. That I will defend until I die. (maybe that was hyperbole, but you get the idea) I was just really passionate and got a bit carried away with the whole M3 fiasco. That said, I have worked with cars and I will go through with the supercar project. If you think I'm going to fail, so be it.

So for those of you who have gotten sidetracked, please go back and read the first post. I will probably post something about my plans tomorrow... I have a calc midterm and I need sleep (it's past midnight). Cool? Cool.

 

[Mark T]

I think your best bet is to rename this thread as someone suggested to "How would you go about building a supercar?" or something along those lines. You've lost some credibility because of what you have said.

I don't think you have the funds, means or technical ability to put this into action anytime soon. We have had automotive engineers stress just how hard this kind of project is and how many resources it can drain.

In my opinion, you should step back a couple of paces, keep this thread open for discussion on how someone could go about building a supercar and finish your college/grad school first.

 

[TsLeng]

I now even doubt he is in college as he claimed. More inclined to believe he is in high school.

But yeah an interesting change of events there from M3 to sold M3 to actually admitting to having no car.

Niky, I think by now it's already clear how big a fraud/liar he is just by going through this thread and that's more the reason to keep it. Your concerns about somebody buying into his story and actually wasting their time is very very low I'd say. I wouldn't think anyone with some intelligence would that gullible. Even if they did, they would fine out very soon :-)

 

[Blitz187]

Sorry, I have to add this incident too, which happend a while ago... but I guess it reinforces the idea he's not or might not be telling the truth here.... The person responding is my buddy who I do my tuning garage with...

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3232735&postcount=13

 

[TsLeng]

That AIM thread was where I got my assumptions that he is still in school. Because he mentioned 'homework' in one of his posts. XD

 

[Blitz187]

That AIM thread was where I got my assumptions that he is still in school. Because he mentioned 'homework' in one of his posts. XD

The issue there in that post has been resolved I might add.. he did give the proper people credit where credit was due in the end... But did it after the fact and was also one of his "first" tunes... which only left us to question his credibility from that moment on.... Now reading this whole thread, it further strengthens the disbelief in credibility I had before... Sorry mPWRD... you dug a DEEP hole for youself there and you jumped right into it as well... hope you can get yourself out for your own sake....

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Just wondering... I admit that I was joking/lying about the M3 but I was and still am truthful about everything else... you want to stop pestering me now and give suggestions/feedback like the title of the thread is asking you to?

I am not trolling you or conning you or anything suspicious. That I will defend until I die. (maybe that was hyperbole, but you get the idea) I was just really passionate and got a bit carried away with the whole M3 fiasco.

Are you sure you didn't get carried away with the ultimate supercar too? Somehow you're this great engineer, yet you're not that far into college. You have no proof that you worked on any cars or whether you even owned one. For some reason you don't have a camera and don't like taking pictures of your project cars.

 

[mPWRD]

I think your best bet is to rename this thread as someone suggested to "How would you go about building a supercar?" or something along those lines. You've lost some credibility because of what you have said.

I don't think you have the funds, means or technical ability to put this into action anytime soon. We have had automotive engineers stress just how hard this kind of project is and how many resources it can drain.

In my opinion, you should step back a couple of paces, keep this thread open for discussion on how someone could go about building a supercar and finish your college/grad school first.

I have already mentioned that I don't plan to even think about finalizing a design or building for another 4 or 5 years... enough time for me to finish grad school and possibly get a job at a car company. I don't have the funds, means or technical ability as of now, and I know that. But that's not to say that I can never have funds/means/ability...

That AIM thread was where I got my assumptions that he is still in school. Because he mentioned 'homework' in one of his posts. XD

College students get homework too, you know.

 

[Northstar]

So if you aren't even planning on getting close to starting building for 5 years why start talking now. BTW i'm building a rocket ship anyone wanna join me.

 

[TsLeng]

Dont shoot me.. :-) usually college students get assignments. I am just guessing there... If you use the term homework then so be it not a problem.

Somehow, I feel my chances of being wrong is low XD

 

[Eric.]

Can we move this over to the Comedy Corner yet?

 

[Venari]

Just wondering... I admit that I was joking/lying about the M3 but I was and still am truthful about everything else...

Hang on... you lied about your M3?

And what about this makes you think me (or anyone else) will want to give you advice now?

Since I already gave you some, how about taking it, and come back in six months with what you've learned from applying it.

V (frankly bloody annoyed.)

 

[911~Lad]

Get the body of a Porsche and the performance of a Bugatti Veyron

 

[Philly]

I admit that I was joking/lying about the M3...

Things like that tent to ruin whatever credibility you had going for you. Nobody is going to want to invest anything in a supercar project when the head dude lies about stuff like that.

However, may I suggest business school? I'm sure they can use people to come up with little lies like that in the marketing parts of everything...

 

[Famine]

Get the body of a Porsche and the performance of a Bugatti Veyron

Already been done, in the shape of the 9ff.

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

Already been done, in the shape of the 9ff.

Imagine wet roundabouts in the 9ff Certainly an exciting shopping trip!

 

[mPWRD]

Hang on... you lied about your M3?

And what about this makes you think me (or anyone else) will want to give you advice now?

Since I already gave you some, how about taking it, and come back in six months with what you've learned from applying it.

V (frankly bloody annoyed.)

And rightfully so. Yes, I took your advice. Yes, I truly appreciate it. And yes, in a few months, when I'm on summer vacation and have some time to look those books over, I will tell you what I've learned. Nobody inside GTP may give me advice, but that's not to say that others will be so reluctant.

Imagine wet roundabouts in the 9ff Certainly an exciting shopping trip!

That would be quite fun.

 

[Dave A]

You've had plenty of advice on here, it's just a question of if you noticed it or ignored it because it wasn't what you wanted to hear. Not all advice is good advice but it is advice all the same, and not all good advice has to be the kind of advice that tickles the ears. You've shot your foot off with regards to the GTP community lying about the M3, trust goes a long way. No one on here knows you from Adam, but we do know you lied about the M3, how do you expect us to take your grand idea of building your own supercar? If you are serious I maintain that I wish you good luck, but you need a lot of common sense to take charge of a big project and when it comes to looking for incestment either financially or in terms of man power then trust goes a long way. That's something you didn't manage to get here before your story about the M3, it's a lot more to ask for now. Think about that.

 

[mafia_boy]

I'm glad I sat on the fence and waited for all the truth to come out. You do realise there are people on here that have been modifying cars for nearly as long as you have lived so take our advice and knowledge in hand, not try and BS us along the way, because we'll find the cracks in your story.

But this new rocket project sounds good Northstar, I'll volunteer myself as the guy that does the countdown to liftoff.

10, 9, 8, ummm, 17, 26, 55, 204, 33, 62.......

 

[Northstar]

I'm glad I sat on the fence and waited for all the truth to come out. You do realise there are people on here that have been modifying cars for nearly as long as you have lived so take our advice and knowledge in hand, not try and BS us along the way, because we'll find the cracks in your story.

But this new rocket project sounds good Northstar, I'll volunteer myself as the guy that does the countdown to liftoff.

10, 9, 8, ummm, 17, 26, 55, 204, 33, 62.......

You sure you want to do the countdown? It is launching 12/21/2012 and going to Mars.

 

[Smallhorses]

@ mPWRD: Thanks for having the dignity to come forward and admit what we all suspected all along. 👍
Can't have been an easy decision, and I hope that you've learned from your mistake. But kudos for doing it.
You've lost a little credibility here by lying in the first place, but have now given yourself a chance to rebuild your reputation by continuing your membership here from this point forth in fully accordance with the AUP.
We're a passionate and educated bunch here (well OK, some of us are!), so not much passes us by.

With that said, if you still wish for me to close this thread, I will.

Given the changes to the thread title and your request for suggestions I suggest that the thread now continues on that topic, and on that topic alone, and the paragraph below speaks for itself.

Please note: This serves as a reminder that from this point forth the topic of discussion for this thread is to be confined to that requested in the first post & title.
The unfortunate chapter of false claims and subsequent retraction and apology for this by mPWRD effectively leave this matter closed. There should be no further discussion, flaming or baiting within this thread by anyone in relation to this issue, official warnings and / or infractions may be issued to members failing to heed this public warning.

Smallhorses

You sure you want to do the countdown? It is launching 12/21/2012 and going to Mars.

You'd better warn Chris about this then. I'm not sure they have a rocket landing pad in Glasgow yet, so he'll need some warning to build one!