The Le Mans General Discussion Thread

Swagger897
Question is, what is the Porsche going to be? Grey and black will look sorta dull I think. I remember audi having a black ultra and a grey e-Tron, which I really didn't care for, but to me the porsche doesn't sound good, look good, but the mechanics are a bit interesting, apart from it being somewhat identical to the TS0...whatever
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Some speculation says Martini (through the jeans label). Notice on the Porsche Adidas sponsorship in testing. White / black I say with some red.
 
I'm going with white/blue/red and Mobil1 sponsorship, a tie-in for Martini, of sorts, like on the 911GT1. Or it'll be similar to the factory 991GTE.
 
Furinkazen
Some speculation says Martini (through the jeans label). Notice on the Porsche Adidas sponsorship in testing. White / black I say with some red.
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Yeah but doesn't every German sports car have Adidas on it somewhere? And what would they heavily sponsor? The shoes?
 
As a new fan of the WEC what really only matters to me is how competitive it goes. It isn't up to me. I can't decide for Porsche what their 919 Hybrid car looks like. My opinion won't affect their decision making over the livery. But being Porsche I hope it is the back, red, silver and white scheme scheme we associate with Porsche. Either that or the black, red and yellow of the Porsche badge.
 
I don't know where to post this one but is it a test mule for the new v6 engine for f1 cars or le mans? I'm hoping for the latter. Don't know if it's a Ferrari or a Maserati though. Found it on Speedhunters's Dino Instagram page.

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ZEROX
I don't know where to post this one but is it a test mule for the new v6 engine for f1 cars or le mans? I'm hoping for the latter. Don't know if it's a Ferrari or a Maserati though. Found it on Speedhunters's Dino Instagram page.

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Weeeelll.... I do remember Ferrari having thoughts a while ago to get more involved in Le Mans, but that is one giant air scoop. Also, the wheels aren't the standard OZ that is used for WEC, so they wouldn't be testing without them on. I just wonder what track that is, because I keep on having monza in my head, as both WEC and f1 goes....

What would make it all the more easy is to try and figure out whose helmet pattern that is.
 
And that's yet another P1 Team that isn't going the diesel route. Starting to think Toyota's fight with Audi in 2012 has essentially proven that you don't need diesel to fight Audi. But having a hybrid system wouldn't hurt either.
 
RACECAR
And that's yet another P1 Team that isn't going the diesel route. Starting to think Toyota's fight with Audi in 2012 has essentially proven that you don't need diesel to fight Audi. But having a hybrid system wouldn't hurt either.
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All factory LMP1's are required hybrids now and have an internal LMP1-H classification.
 
RACECAR
And that's yet another P1 Team that isn't going the diesel route. Starting to think Toyota's fight with Audi in 2012 has essentially proven that you don't need diesel to fight Audi. But having a hybrid system wouldn't hurt either.
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Furinkazen
All factory LMP1's are required hybrids now and have an internal LMP1-H classification.
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Not only that, but many companies that are starting out in a diesel (which are none) won't have the monies to compete, as diesels are getting pounded with regulations, making it only a fight with Audi really, and the top petrol team. So now I fear heavily Audi is stuck in the predicament that since they have battled really no one good as Peugeot for a while, especially in a gasoline, that they will have to either change to petrol or drop diesel, and forget half of their marketing campaign...

And many of Audi's Motorsport engine development teams want to go back to petrol. They've learned so much in the 12 years at Le Mans and I feel they could hit a new lap record with not only their new LMP, but with a petrol...
 
Swagger897
Ooh my.... Japan is making a comeback to win Le Mans for the second time now
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I hope this catches on with other countries. I miss the days where le mans was the battle grounds for Mazda, Nissan, Toyota, Sauber, Jaguar, and so on were competing for the top spots. Just like the Group C days!
 
To be fair Mazda didn't win by having the fastest car, they won by having a car which could drive flat out for the entire distance without breaking down, and in years other than 1991 weren't very competitive. Nissan and Toyota would often appear fast in practice and qualifying only to be woefully slow in the races because their cars used too much fuel.

In the late 90s meanwhile, Toyota and Nissan never really seemed to have luck on their side, despite their cars often showing decent pace, particularly in the case of the blisteringly fast TS020.
 
From what little I've seen of the 1998 race, I didn't really see the Nissans put any sort of challenge against the fast cars even though they had the pace.
 
Roger the Horse
To be fair Mazda didn't win by having the fastest car, they won by having a car which could drive flat out for the entire distance without breaking down, and in years other than 1991 weren't very competitive. Nissan and Toyota would often appear fast in practice and qualifying only to be woefully slow in the races because their cars used too much fuel.

In the late 90s meanwhile, Toyota and Nissan never really seemed to have luck on their side, despite their cars often showing decent pace, particularly in the case of the blisteringly fast TS020.
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Which is the goal really. Making technology to survive 24 hours, full throttle and still be fast is the whole goal. Reliability is just as important as fuel conservation, and those two together is what racing is all about. There are all sorts of speed of racing but this is where we see (nowadays) compromise take place. And what compromises you make in racing are the compromises we see in cars. You pay for quality and quantity shows it...
 
That should mean the cars are:
1. Kristensen/Duval/Di Grassi
2. Lotterer/Treluyer/Fassler
3. Gene/Jarvis/Albuquerque

Some good drivers in there!
 
Swagger897
Which is the goal really. Making technology to survive 24 hours, full throttle and still be fast is the whole goal. Reliability is just as important as fuel conservation, and those two together is what racing is all about. There are all sorts of speed of racing but this is where we see (nowadays) compromise take place. And what compromises you make in racing are the compromises we see in cars. You pay for quality and quantity shows it...
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They did have a car that was lighter. Outside the rules, is easy.
 

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