The Le Mans General Discussion Thread

[Ninners]

Because it covers ELMS discussion too.

 

[BROHAM]

Quick question, why is the thread called Le Mans Discussion? Shouldn't it be WEC Discussion?

At one point it included ALMS discussion

 

[Tired Tyres]

Together with all that ^

There's always a specific thread for the Le Mans 24 Hours each year but since it is the greatest race in the world its name is used to cover a lot of related stuff here.

 

[alonsof1fan91]

Well, crappy end, but great to see Toyota off to a good start. I declare this the year of the petrol engine!
Crush those diesels. Crush them good!

As long as no car sounds as this one:


I don't care which engine wins. Audi is the best looking car so I am rooting for them this year

 

[Jawehawk]

As long as no car sounds as this one:

I don't care which engine wins. Audi is the best looking car so I am rooting for them this year

I'm afraid such amazing cars are ahead of my time. Born in 1992 means I missed the golden years of motorsport

Now it's all about political correct agendas, and pleasing Greenpeace....

 

[Christian_C]

The safety car did end it early yes but honestly being there the rain was pretty awful and only got worse following the end of the race so I understand why they did it.

From what I could see:

Audi seems quicker in the corners and still reasonably fast on the straights

Toyota's look great off the corner and seem to carry good speed too

Porsche i'm not sure, they never looked really like they were capable of winning to me but if they were in low downforce then that makes sense

All in all before the first rain shower and Di Grassi crashing I was pretty sure it was going to be Audi 1-2, Toyota 3-4, Porsche 5-6.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Adrian Newey? Porsche recruit?

Newey is always interested in seeing how other cars develop. Even when he is at a Grand Prix, he spends a lot of time - usually on the grid - observing the other cars. In fact, most of the big innovations, from the F-duct to skinny sidepods to nose-bridges and so on, were designed by others, but perfected by Newey.

If he was going to join Porsche, then he would have done so when the 919 Hybrid was in development.

 

[gtone339]

@prisonermonkeys: yeah true that, would be nice for him to ditch F1 & join Porsche at Le Mans instead!

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Just checked the results!

1-2 win for TOYOTA! Looks like a bright year for them! 👍​

 

[Carlos]

I'm afraid such amazing cars are ahead of my time. Born in 1992 means I missed the golden years of motorsport

Now it's all about political correct agendas, and pleasing Greenpeace....

It never hurts watching those old races again I'm from the '90s and I frequently watch old races like Le Mans, Can Am, IMSA.. Those prototypes from the 70's and 80's were the best

Also, old hillclimb races are very cool too!

 

[Roger the Horse]

pleasing Greenpeace....

Motor racing has always been about innovation, and I'd rather have an environment to hold said races in.

 

[gtone339]

Highlights - WEC 2014 6 hrs Silverstone
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[Roger the Horse]

Personally, I support a ban on setting sports highlights to music.

Who's with me?

 

[RACECAR]

@prisonermonkeys: yeah true that, would be nice for him to ditch F1 & join Porsche at Le Mans instead!

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Am I the only one who notices the mad scientist look from the Porsche guy next to Newey? (not Webber)

 

[sumbrownkid]

Yeah I noticed it too Racecar.

Creeping me out honestly...

 

[MHPALA]

Treluyer trying to pull a Dumas (Hint hint: 2012 Le Mans)

 

[JMoney]

My instagram photo of a Porsche 919, liked by... Audi Team Joest?

 

[ProjectWHaT]

go home Joest, you're drunk

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

go home Joest, you're drunk

They're going to try and win with kindness this year.

 

[alonsof1fan91]

Guys, quick question:
If I buy the season pack for the iPad app, can I watch replays of the races too or only live sessions?

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Even with Webber driving for Porsche, we get very little coverage of the WEC down here. But we have the local Bathurst 12 Hour, so I think there is potential for the WEC to take root here. Get rid of the Shanghai round, and hold a round in Australia instead. If Bathurst isn't an option, then Eastern Creek, Philip Island or Sandown could probably handle it. And there was the one-of-a-kind Race of a Thousand Years, which was held in Adelaide on New Year's Eve 1999, so maybe the Adelaide Parklands could handle it as well, though it might need the old Grand Prix layout.

Speaking of calendar changes, they should move the Fuji race to Suzuka; Fuji might be owned by Toyota, but it sits in the rain shadow of Mt. Fuji, and so a monsoon is virtually guaranteed. While they are at it, ditch Bahrain for Istanbul; and maybe consider taking the American round back to Sebring, but that would mean it would have to fal of the United Sportscar Championship calendar.

 

[Jawehawk]

It never hurts watching those old races again I'm from the '90s and I frequently watch old races like Le Mans, Can Am, IMSA.. Those prototypes from the 70's and 80's were the best

Also, old hillclimb races are very cool too!

I have done that on occasion, but it just isn't the same.

Motor racing has always been about innovation, and I'd rather have an environment to hold said races in.

Funny. I thought it was about racing.

You don't honestly think that the few hundred race cars have any impact what so ever on the environment, do you? 'Cause I can tell you that they in fact, don't. Hell, if you compare the CO2 emissions of every car on the planet, to the emmisions from production facilities amd transportation (trucks, ships and airplanes), the CO2 emmisions are rather tiny. I'm not saying that when combined, they don't have an impact, but going all in on the "OMG, GLOBAL WARNING, WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!" train is just silly when looking at the numbers.

In any case, high-end racing should not be done with pathetic electric cars or tiny engines...

I realise that motorsport has always been a testing bed for new technologies, but when they are guided solely by ill founded political agendas, then something is clearly wrong.

Even with Webber driving for Porsche, we get very little coverage of the WEC down here. But we have the local Bathurst 12 Hour, so I think there is potential for the WEC to take root here. Get rid of the Shanghai round, and hold a round in Australia instead. If Bathurst isn't an option, then Eastern Creek, Philip Island or Sandown could probably handle it. And there was the one-of-a-kind Race of a Thousand Years, which was held in Adelaide on New Year's Eve 1999, so maybe the Adelaide Parklands could handle it as well, though it might need the old Grand Prix layout.

Speaking of calendar changes, they should move the Fuji race to Suzuka; Fuji might be owned by Toyota, but it sits in the rain shadow of Mt. Fuji, and so a monsoon is virtually guaranteed. While they are at it, ditch Bahrain for Istanbul; and maybe consider taking the American round back to Sebring, but that would mean it would have to fal of the United Sportscar Championship calendar.

Don't think the LMP1's would be "safe" on Mount Panorama. A bit tight on the mountain section?
Also, please not Sebring. That track is so insanely boring.

 

[Roger the Horse]

Ill guided ignorant nonsense

Unfortunately, cars damage the environment. Although the proportionate effect is minute, a motor race will still contribute to this, and the effect to the local environs will likely be far proportionately rather more noticeable.

Climate change is not about politics. It's about science. Anyone who thinks otherwise should shut it and go do some proper research. Everyone has to make compromises when the future fate of humanity is at stake.

Now, let's stop arguing and get back to enjoying the racing.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Don't think the LMP1's would be "safe" on Mount Panorama. A bit tight on the mountain section?

If you can fit twenty-eight V8 Supercars through there a hundred and sixty-one times in a day, you can fit anything through it. LMPs have all manner of features that V8s don't, like the fin.

 

[Clark]

The LMP1s are too quick for Bathurst, it would be too dangerous.

 

[Jawehawk]

If you can fit twenty-eight V8 Supercars through there a hundred and sixty-one times in a day, you can fit anything through it. LMPs have all manner of features that V8s don't, like the fin.

Yeah, but how will the P1's manage the mountain section while also having to dodge between the slower GTE cars?
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a WEC race on Bathurst, as I'm sure it would be epic. But I'm not so sure it would meet the safety standard.

 

[Roger the Horse]

I believe Bathurst is only an FIA grade 3 circuit, rather than the required Grade 2 needed for a WEC race, and I'm not sure how much one would need to update it to be able to hold a WEC race there, and if such updates would actually be possible without adversely affecting the track layout.

 

[SniperRed3]

The whole reason wec is hybrid is because in F1 teams said they would pull out if they didn't get hybrids and mor teams would join if they did i wonder if this has happened here

 

[Tired Tyres]

If you can fit twenty-eight V8 Supercars through there a hundred and sixty-one times in a day, you can fit anything through it. LMPs have all manner of features that V8s don't, like the fin.

Not a snowball in hells chance. WEC tracks have to be grade 2 minimum.

For me Philip Island would be the only choice, not that Australia stands a chance of a WEC round unless the WEC carry through with their idea of running the series through the winter here in the southern hemisphere and ending it in June with Le Mans as the final round.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/?p=25940

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Bathurst is probably safer than the Island. Remember McConnville's accident a few years ago? He speared off at the first corner, cut across the infield and nearly wiped another car out.

 

[Roger the Horse]

Honestly, I'm of the view that the cars should be safe enough to run anywhere with an FIA license, but until that day comes, Bathurst is out of the question for LMP1 cars.