The Le Mans General Discussion Thread

FoolKiller
If you don't have a streaming device connected to your TV you can fix it for under $20, as opposed to $20+ a month. I watched two full seasons of ALMS streaming online, on my TV.


This is the thing. It is either worth showing or it isn't. Don't buy up the rights from others who have given it wider availability in the past or would want to in the future if you think it is only worth your hidden channels. Fox nearly killed all of their good cable comedies by moving them to FXX from FX, and now FXX is kept alive by Simpsons marathons.

Creating secondary channels to show less popular stuff is fine, if it isn't behind a giant pay wall. I don't need the soccer channel, golf channel, and tennis channel so I can watch a race series that they may or may not show all of.

The cable model is an archaic dinosaur. It was developed over 30 years ago. In that time all other technology from pre-production to viewing has changed. I finally said screw them. For less than 25% of the cost I get to watch 90% of what I did before. The math works out differently if you factor in the rise of things like the NFL and SEC Networks. Factor in what I would have lost with those and I'm paying less than 20% of what it would cost.

Sorry, I can't accept the current model. I studied telecom in college (got the degree and everything) and the vision for the future was far brighter than this. We were all working on using technology that would be like Roku across the board. It's why I sacrificed to become an early adopter. If we keep eating their crap they'll keep putting it on our plate in fresh, steaming piles.
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If it goes all streaming, good luck getting any kind of corporate backing. It'll be no bigger than a local SCCA meet because if stream is the only option, it's better for companies to sponsor the stream or website rather than a car on the track and we get a field full of rich old bored guys and Maldonados aside from the handful of full fledged factory teams out there.

Also, once Roku and other services like you speak of get popular, ads will show up early and often just like tv (looking at YouTube). Then we'll complain about the same stuff just it's online instead of on a tv
 
Okay back to the "Le Mans (WEC)" part of the thread... :rolleyes:

Has anyone heard anything more about Mclaren's possible entry into GTE with the 650S? I remember the Racer article where they said something about even a possible 2015 return or something like that. Seems far fetched, but they could have a head start on something.
 
I hope this FS2 TV deal is just a time buy from the FIA and that Fox will have limited input into the broadcast. Eurosport will reportedly also cover all 6 hrs according to Graham Goodwin.
 
IforceV8
I hope this FS2 TV deal is just a time buy from the FIA and that Fox will have limited input into the broadcast. Eurosport will reportedly also cover all 6 hrs according to Graham Goodwin.
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I get the feeling it'll basically be like when Speed did coverage of the V8 Supercars at COTA or what Fox usually does with the Moto GP rounds in the US: A 30 minute pre-race show (with Bob Varsha most likely), followed by the race itself.
 
cnd01
Also, once Roku and other services like you speak of get popular, ads will show up early and often just like tv (looking at YouTube). Then we'll complain about the same stuff just it's online instead of on a tv
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Did I mention ads?
 
FoolKiller
Did I mention ads?
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Companies will find a way to squeeze every dollar out of ads. That's how the current model works,and it's been that way all these years because it's very profitable. If companies go to Roku offering big $$$$ to cluster the online television market with ads, you best believe they'll have ads galore if it means a larger bottom line.
 
cnd01
Companies will find a way to squeeze every dollar out of ads. That's how the current model works,and it's been that way all these years because it's very profitable. If companies go to Roku offering big $$$$ to cluster the online television market with ads, you best believe they'll have ads galore if it means a larger bottom line.
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Did I ever mention ads as the problem? Your arguing a point that I didn't make. We have ads on You Tube. We've had ads since the first professional radio broadcast. Ads are not the problem. Ads are a given. That is not the archaic system I am describing.

EDIT: In fact, streaming services already have ads. In fact, online streaming ads are closing in on bringing in as much as TV.
 
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FoolKiller
Did I ever mention ads as the problem? Your arguing a point that I didn't make. We have ads on You Tube. We've had ads since the first professional radio broadcast. Ads are not the problem. Ads are a given. That is not the archaic system I am describing.
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Well go ahead and stick it to the cable company. Until big advertising goes the new way, it'll be a neat new idea and nothing more. I guess you're referring to the package system of channels as the archaic system that's being delivered. It's really more complicated that that given how Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC, etc. own many more channels than just the main ones. If cable companies give a pay per channel plan, that would upset the actual stations themselves which more than likely means no one wins. It is what it is. I'm sure someone would've switched to a better system if it was that easy to get the competitive edge on every other provider
 
FoolKiller
Did I ever mention ads as the problem? Your arguing a point that I didn't make. We have ads on You Tube. We've had ads since the first professional radio broadcast. Ads are not the problem. Ads are a given. That is not the archaic system I am describing.

EDIT: In fact, streaming services already have ads. In fact, online streaming ads are closing in on bringing in as much as TV.
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Nothing aimed at you here, Foolkiller, I just found this sentence disheartening.
"The original intention was to put the early rounds on the web when fans are not around a TV and give them a chance to watch at work," said Jason Kint, senior VP-general manager for CBSSports.com."
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How about giving them a chance to do some work.

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This show (here comes Honey Boo Boo) is aired on "The Learning Channel"......??? :(

No FOX 2 here.
 
My brother is trying to go to the wec race in Austin. Anyone here going? He needs suggestions on cheap(ish) hotels. Not a current license holder (suspended) so cabs and public transportation is another factor. Anyone with some experience, advice?
 
COTA WEC Vette.

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I though they'd use 75 or something. And the Michelin man needs to be removed. Doesn't fit the yellow
Vette'.

Better yet they should have used that 50th anniversary scheme they used in 2003. Blue with silver stripes outlined in red. :sly:
 
I'm wondering if there's a possiblilty that they might be in position for being a third car for the Petit Le Mans. This race is not only a good PR play, but it could also be a training exercise for Corvette Racing to seal that Manufacterer's title.
 
RACECAR
I'm wondering if there's a possiblilty that they might be in position for being a third car for the Petit Le Mans. This race is not only a good PR play, but it could also be a training exercise for Corvette Racing to seal that Manufacterer's title.
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Who would drive it? The Taylors will be in the Prototype Class.
 
RACECAR
They are indeed but nowhere does it say they can only run in one class ;)
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True, but that would still require two largely separate teams to arrange their pit stops. It's one thing when two teams share one driver, but two drivers... that's gonna have some complications.
 
I guess they could bring Johnny O'Connell over from the Cadillac team and pair him up with one of the Chevrolet IndyCar drivers.
 
Snaeper
True, but that would still require two largely separate teams to arrange their pit stops. It's one thing when two teams share one driver, but two drivers... that's gonna have some complications.
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Just remembered they are both driving the 10 (for some reason, I thought they were still driving in separate DPs) so good point. Perhaps it'll just be that third team running the car and like Justin said, it could have Johnny O'Connell from the Cadillac Program (since he'll be readily available with WC series also being there on the same weekend) along with Lawson Aschenbach and maybe (though its only a dream at this point), Ron Fellows.

Justin
I guess they could bring Johnny O'Connell over from the Cadillac team and pair him up with one of the Chevrolet IndyCar drivers.
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Speaking of which, there is definitely an interesting selection of Indycar drivers to choose from with that series having long concluded. Obviously, Dixon & Kanaan are no brainers with Ganassi (along with Sage Karem possibly).
 
Andy Pilgrim and Johnny O would both be available since PWC finishes its season this weekend in Utah. Lawson would be a good pick too.

Sorta back on topic Ed Brown of ESM loved the Dunlops after testing at COTA and figures their WEC P2 car will be 4 sec faster than their IMSA P2.
 
What about those guys who ran the Stevenson Camaro? Didn't they get a shot last year? Get them in the car with Johnny-O. 3 Corvettes vs 3 Porsches at PLM would be legit. A bit bummed they scared Aston Martin away, I could've seen them throwing down a couple cars for Turner/Mucke/Dalla-Lana and Poulsen/Thiim/Heniemeier-Hansson
 
RACECAR
I'm wondering if there's a possiblilty that they might be in position for being a third car for the Petit Le Mans. This race is not only a good PR play, but it could also be a training exercise for Corvette Racing to seal that Manufacterer's title.
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If that is the case, can imagine it will be this 3rd chassis that is in WEC for COTA converted to USCR spec afterwards.
 

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