The Le Mans General Discussion Thread

So, is that basically saying that there's a possibility that we'll get this car in game? If so, when? On the exact same day of the Superbowl (when the car itself debuts)?

I highly doubt we will get it until after Le Mans at the earliest since I doubt they would want to give the other teams a sneak peak at their car before it even hits the track.
 
I highly doubt we will get it until after Le Mans at the earliest since I doubt they would want to give the other teams a sneak peak at their car before it even hits the track.
The teams will see it at the "prologue" in March at Paul Ricard in France. Theyre doing a different concept than the 3 other teams, so spying on their car isn't going to help much this season.
 

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The teams will see it at the "prologue" in March at Paul Ricard in France. Theyre doing a different concept than the 3 other teams, so spying on their car isn't going to help much this season.

And it'll race alongside them at both Silverstone and Spa before the 24 hour race as well... the way the 'spy' departments at top racing outfits work now they'll have enough pictures to then go and generate a near-perfect aero map of the car by the end of the first day of testing.
 
I'm wondering with all that we've heard strongly rumoured about the car if Nissan are just throwing all their eggs into the Le Mans basket. Mike Fuller reckons that a 15-20% drag reduction on a traditional LMP1 design is possible with what Nissan have done, but that ultimately comes at the cost of downforce. This approach effectively rules Nissan out of being competitive at any other circuit in the WEC calendar, which are all fairly typical purpose-built circuits that require the big downforce numbers to be competitive on.

Add that to the rumours of big horsepower from the combined ICE-Hybrid system and it all points to a Mulsanne-eater. If the hybrid system is designed to be deployed for the amount of time they expect to be at full throttle on the Le Mans straights, they may have something going... they'll suffer in the Porsche curves and in the few other normal corners like the Dunlop curves and Indianapolis but could make it up for it on the straights.

There's still a part of me that thinks they'll end up rolling out a fairly normal looking P1 car that has some interesting advances in the hybrid system (that horsepower figure is too tempting not to ignore, Toyota were getting 1000bhp total last season and their hybrid system wasn't even in the top megajoule category, so 1500bhp+ doesn't sound too ridiculous to me), but there's too many in-the-know well-connected people saying it's something much more unique...
 
And it'll race alongside them at both Silverstone and Spa before the 24 hour race as well... the way the 'spy' departments at top racing outfits work now they'll have enough pictures to then go and generate a near-perfect aero map of the car by the end of the first day of testing.
Which will probably useless this year, especially if Nissan go front-mid engine. Their aero concept will be tailored for their car's direction. What good will it do to rear-mid engine cars? Maybe if Nissan's take wins and/or LM, the other teams will copy it. But most of their ideas wont be able to be copied this year. Its not like F1.
 
Which will probably useless this year, especially if Nissan go front-mid engine. Their aero concept will be tailored for their car's direction. What good will it do to rear-mid engine cars? Maybe if Nissan's take wins and/or LM, the other teams will copy it. But most of their ideas wont be able to be copied this year. Its not like F1.

I completely agree, I was just making the point that the photography guys these major outfits have onboard now make so easy to work out what the other teams are doing there's no point in hiding anything anyway...
 
They hide it before the season starts because that is the time other teams can copy their ideas. Toyota didnt reveal their car until the prologue test last year for that reason.
 
The teams will see it at the "prologue" in March at Paul Ricard in France. Theyre doing a different concept than the 3 other teams, so spying on their car isn't going to help much this season.

I was just stating the likely reason we will not get it right away, I never said it was a good one.
 
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This looks more likely than the other photo IMO. It has very odd proportions.
Maybe they were doing a back to back test between the GT-R and the Ligier JS P2 (which some of their drivers have experience in, VW did the same with a Fabia S2000 when they were testing their Polo WRC in 2012).

The proportions may look weird on that one photo because of the angle of the car (you have to guess the perspective based on the rear wing which is easier to see than the nose), it could be 2 pictures of one car.
 
Isn't that CoTA? Why was it so hard to get a good photo of it? When the Ferrari FXXK was there people got some fairly clear shots of it.
 
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