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The Le Mans General Discussion Thread
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- mustafur
Isn't LMP2 a Pro/am class anyway?
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GTE-Pro and Am are equal in my mind...both the very nice GTE class. 👍 
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http://www.icontact-archive.com/KYCeqRVnTaQyX_AyafeLz_UddzwiRjBW the line-up is Ben Keating, Jeroen Bleekemolen and Marc Miller.
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Yes who happens to be Plat rated and one of the only few in that field to be so that alone makes it a good thing. And I don't see how it will be a potential rolling chicane. 2 of the 3 drivers are good which means most of the time the car should be at speed. (not that you were the one who said it)
I'd rather see it then another P2 that ends up not getting much place either.
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I'm going to root for the Viper team during the race. Would be a HUGE in your face moment towards Chrysler for dropping factory support.
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I plan to as well, though Labre is back with the Corvette so that would be fun to see if the Viper can challenge them.
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The more i think about it the more brave I feel Nissan is being by starting their debut race at Lemans with 3 cars, Porsche waited until the second year for this.
Either way if it ends up anything like last year everyone has a shot if they have reliability.
Either way if it ends up anything like last year everyone has a shot if they have reliability.
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I feel though that if they have the speed from day one then they have a better shot at Podium than Porsche. These guys seemed to have tested far more extensively than other recent big manufactures. So I feel they could go the distance. It will be extremely tough but still I think it's great like others. Toyota I wish would do the same and maybe they'd finally win.
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No testing substitutes racing, especially when your goal is the 24 hours of Le Mans.
I remember Peugeot's first year and how the mechanics, after a few hours of racing had passed, had to frantically clean the sidepods in every pitstop the cars made, losiing a lot of time in the process.
It was a problem never detected in testing. Also remember the commentators saying that no permanent track used in testing emulates the conditions at Le Mans, because public roads are public roads, even if they're groomed up for racing purposes.
(I think it was dirt, asphalt, whatever, that got into the air vents at speed due to the particular areodinamics of the car, and got glued to the radiators, making the engines work much hotter than they should)
I remember Peugeot's first year and how the mechanics, after a few hours of racing had passed, had to frantically clean the sidepods in every pitstop the cars made, losiing a lot of time in the process.
It was a problem never detected in testing. Also remember the commentators saying that no permanent track used in testing emulates the conditions at Le Mans, because public roads are public roads, even if they're groomed up for racing purposes.
(I think it was dirt, asphalt, whatever, that got into the air vents at speed due to the particular areodinamics of the car, and got glued to the radiators, making the engines work much hotter than they should)
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Video of the low drag Audi by 19Bozzy92
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Ugh, the front looks ghastly. No doubt it's a very quick car, but it hasn't become any prettier since 2013.
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Except that Nissan have been public about their testing whereas other teams may do as much or more but because they don't advertise that fact on every available internet media outlet , they may leave the impression that they aren't doing very much at all.
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That's why I said seemed, because of the fact they probably haven't done the most or can't be fully proven. However, the journos are usually very good a finding hidden tests from major outfits in major series and documenting them and it's due to that as well that I felt Nissan still have probably done more testing then others because of two reasons, one being the 2016 goal of winning which would mean they'd have to be fast or at least in contention to finish their first year out. And secondly their platform of car that has been chosen, which is not conventional (though not all that new either) and their setup is not fully proven and thus more effort I feel is needed. This is how we found out about what the car would look like which wasn't a public release from Nissan during one of it's earliest outings, now the info comes in by the droves.
When you look at the last two major teams to join, Toyota and Porsche, you have to teams with a set up that is the norm in many cases with the only strange and radical innovation being power plants. Obviously you know, Toyota and it's energy harvesting set up (though probably one of the more advanced super-capacitor systems) was probably the most radical thing on the car. The engine they went with was one that had been in production already but just adjusted for their LM endeavors. Porsche on the other hand went radical with the engine and opted to use a V4 which as far as auto racing and even road production is concerned was quite unheard of and it would stand to reason that this was probably the most critical aspect of their endeavor.
Also, since the other two actually went racing sooner than Nissan is going to, it would stand to reason that yes Nissan may actually have done more testing. But at the cost of truly learning from what the racing has to offer as a first real understanding of the task of endurance.
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