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[NLxAROSA]

So, since 700PP tuning is now useless (until they release some new events that is, so don't throw away your GT-R just yet ), I have started tuning the Mine's R34. Do you have any suggestions to other cars that could rule in 750PP?

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

So, since 700PP tuning is now useless (until they release some new events that is, so don't throw away your GT-R just yet ), I have started tuning the Mine's R34. Do you have any suggestions to other cars that could rule in 750PP?

Yes, absolutely, throw away that GT-R, my Tuned Z06 hammers them all. I'm not kidding, please try the new 750 PP version, linked in the first post. It's still easy to use and definitely beats an R35 GT-R in lap times. Also, we have a new entrant to the 600 PP arena. The Mustang is plenty quick, and is easier to use for those not so accustomed to RWD, but this new car is quiker again, still not insane to use, and did I mention it's a sexy, flat-12 engine, mid-mounted Ferrari?

NOTICE: All setups have been updated for the new events. The Alfa 147 hammers along very nicely now it has cars its own size to race against, the Mustang was great as is, and as a testament to TLD's tuning abilities no suspension work was need for the new GT-R and Z06/Tuned. They both handle great still, and now the Z06 is very very fast (and weighing in at less than 1000kg )

 

[GTP_JASE72]

Gonna give both the Alfa and the Stang a blast later tonight.

Do I hear a 512BB hammering up behind me ?

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

TLD Ferrari 512BB
(278kw) (457Nm) (1190kg) (650 PP) (Pro/Standard Physics)​

Performance:

Power: +20
Weight: 85%
Tyres: R3

Suspension:
Ride Height: -30/-30
Spring Rate: 3/7
Damper: 2/6
Toe: -0.15/-0.15
Camber: 2.0/1.8

Brake Balance: 6/5

Max Turn Angle: 40

All driving aids are up to driver, tuned with all aids turned off except ABS at 1.

Gear Ratios:
1st: 3.150
2nd: 2.100
3rd: 1.601
4th: 1.253
5th: 1.000
Final: 3.400

Description: What a car, if anyone thinks like me there is something so uber cool about a flat-12 Ferrari it just makes you water at the mouth. It may take some skill to master but when you do, oh boy does this old school Fezza haul some butt. This car was actually a customer request car, and it turned out to be one of my favourites too.

Tuner's Notes:
More traction than you think, foot to the floor
Make use of good turn in where necessary

 

[GTP_JASE72]

Make that
The Alfa The Stang And OMG There she is

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Make that
The Alfa The Stang And OMG There she is

Indeed, and she's fast too. I'm going to race her right now.........or very soon, either way

 

[NLxAROSA]

I tried your Tuned Vette, runs very nice, again very stable under braking. I really like the speeds at which you have to shift to next gear. It's perfect for Suzuka!

I do have some remarks though:

I think you can get faster lap times if you can brake later by adding some brake power.

I also think the first three gears need to be a bit shorter. I am working on a Tuned Z06 setup very different from yours, still testing it, but I am already getting some very good results with it on Suzuka. Will share it when it's ready.

But I recommend your setup to anybody wishing to go from 4WD to RWD, the Z06/Tuned is one of the more forgiving RWD cars.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

K nd 4 holden spd - here's a review, as requested, of your R35 Tuning.

First off (maybe I'm being dumb) but you quoted +39 on bhp - this pushes me over the 700pp limit so I dropped it to +19 - (took me to 699) and left all the rest of the settings as in your first post on page3 of this thread. I don't know if that was a typo on your part or difference in regional versions but there you go.

Okay so I've been racing and ghost lapping, exclusively on Fuji 700pp, since I completed the game. Might sound boring but I'm a perfectionist, I spend months on a single track trying for that elusive perfect.

I set up the nissan and off we go...

Rolling start gives me control in the middle of turn 14, heading into Netz. Usually there's a bit of correction required as soon as I take over from the autopilot, not this time - car feels a lot more planted and, when I drop to second for the apex I get a little oversteer but of the kind that actually feels good, easy to catch and quick to get back on the power as I head into the uphill final corner.

Right here the car responds beautifully as I throw the back end out wide and then power on for a fast exit. I usually do this but with the new setup the grip comes back a lot quicker and there's very little correction required. Nice clean, fast exit to the back straight and already I'm loving this setup.

One very long, fast straight line later and I'm passing the second blue bridge at my usual 175mph, no change there. I hit the braking zone at turn 1 and it feels so under control I'm tempted to do a little zig zag just to see if I get away with it but common sense gets the better of me as I turn in and absolutely streak across the apex for the quickest exit to T2 I've ever been involved in!

T3 is looming - this has been a hit and miss corner for me until now, the trick is to brake early then power on and trust the torque to hold you on the road. It's a love-hate relationship I have with T3 - if I mess it up I hate it but when I nail it I feel like Captain Huge! The entry seems a bit vague but, once again, I'm back on the grip a lot earlier and don't have to take such a big bite out the far kerb as I hammer into the long T4 at 115 - I'm usually about 110 but this setup is inspiring confidence.

Whooops! The back end starts sliding as I drop to 3rd in the middle but all it takes is a touch of countersteer and it's caught the road again. I'm usually about mid 90's coming out of here but I'm well over the ton now as I jam on the anchors for the hairpin. Supersmooth! The apex kerb is so easy to catch, I'm been understeering like a sonofabitch here before. This is a whole new ball game!

T7,8 and 9 are probably the most boring pieces of road ever to be called corners, what can I say - I power through them flat out, couldn't really comment on the handling, I think anything would do here.

By the time I hit the braking zone for the chicane I know what's coming ... the deceleration is silky smooth, once again notions of zigzagging flit through my mind. Back on the power a bit to push through the first apex then smooth up through revs, back end steps out a bit (this isn't normal) but, once again it's a lot easier to correct and, even with the loss of grip, I seem to be coming out the corner faster than usual.

T10 is my best corner on this track - run wide , little dab of left foot brake, drop to second, catch the back end then punch out. Again I'm back in the grip zone much sooner than I'm used to.

14, 15 and 16 are the same as before, nice and smooth and on the gas a lot quicker.

I've been trying like hell to get anywhere in the 700TT event on this track, spent most of last night tweaking setups and hit a personal best of 1.42.1 (I'm about 360-odd in the rankings, since they closed the event)

I'd gone under that by a 10th after just 3 laps, another couple and I busted 1.40 with a 1.39.27, on what was still a very messy lap. By my reckoning that puts me just in the top 20 - damn pd all to hell for closing the event and messing up my plans for world domination but god bless you, holden for giving me a lovely setup all the same.

It skids a bit but comes under control so well that it's actually a bit more fun to drive, almost like a RWD.

The grip comes back much quicker than the setup I've been using so the all important corner exits are light years faster.

Only funny bit was the entry to turn 3 but, compared to the way the car performs the rest of the track I'd be loathe to fix it in case it changed the handling on the rest.

All in all - 5 👍👍👍👍👍

Oh and heres a screenie to prove my claims -

Any chance you could set up a ford GT (standard - not the tuned one) for me?

 

[doblocruiser]

Tonight couple of very intense races with "her" on Suzuka. With her I mean the Alfa 147. This car is gorgeously tuned for Suzuka and very competitive. Most of the time I could win or get second. This car is so smooth! I like it a lot! I really haven't got anything negative about handling of this car. It just spot on!

I actually have a very small request if it is possible:
The Lancia Delta setup for PP500 Suzuka

greetz,
galgospeed

 

[GTP_JASE72]

Tonight couple of very intense races with "her" on Suzuka. With her I mean the Alfa 147. This car is gorgeously tuned for Suzuka and very competitive. Most of the time I could win or get second. This car is so smooth! I like it a lot! I really haven't got anything negative about handling of this car. It just spot on!

I actually have a very small request if it is possible:
The Lancia Delta setup for PP500 Suzuka

greetz,
galgospeed

Nothing more to add really.
Great tune 👍👍
It's fun worrying the Integra drivers

I just wonder if it could be made as competitive on S tyres ?

 

[Apollo87]

First off (maybe I'm being dumb) but you quoted +39 on bhp - this pushes me over the 700pp limit so I dropped it to +19 - (took me to 699) and left all the rest of the settings as in your first post on page3 of this thread.

That's because the online events were updated yesterday and now there's no 700PP event, they were substituted by 750PP so the tune was edited.

@N4HS

I just tried the alfa today and on the 500PP events on Suzuka is really good, i never thought that car could be that good, indeed a great tune.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

I tried your Tuned Vette, runs very nice, again very stable under braking. I really like the speeds at which you have to shift to next gear. It's perfect for Suzuka!

I do have some remarks though:

I think you can get faster lap times if you can brake later by adding some brake power.

I also think the first three gears need to be a bit shorter. I am working on a Tuned Z06 setup very different from yours, still testing it, but I am already getting some very good results with it on Suzuka. Will share it when it's ready.

But I recommend your setup to anybody wishing to go from 4WD to RWD, the Z06/Tuned is one of the more forgiving RWD cars.

Thanks for trying my Tuned Vette. I would not try making the first 3 gears shorter, you will only make wheelspin. You can't actually add brake power either, only sensitivity.

K nd 4 holden spd - here's a review, as requested, of your R35 Tuning.

First off (maybe I'm being dumb) but you quoted +39 on bhp - this pushes me over the 700pp limit so I dropped it to +19 - (took me to 699) and left all the rest of the settings as in your first post on page3 of this thread. I don't know if that was a typo on your part or difference in regional versions but there you go.


Any chance you could set up a ford GT (standard - not the tuned one) for me?

Thanks for the impressive review. It was not a typo, I upgraded it for the new 750 PP events (It's still good for 700 PP). I'm glad you liked it. What PP would you like the Ford GT tuned for, and what physics?

Tonight couple of very intense races with "her" on Suzuka. With her I mean the Alfa 147. This car is gorgeously tuned for Suzuka and very competitive. Most of the time I could win or get second. This car is so smooth! I like it a lot! I really haven't got anything negative about handling of this car. It just spot on!

I actually have a very small request if it is possible:
The Lancia Delta setup for PP500 Suzuka

greetz,
galgospeed

Definitely. And I will begin on the Delta. I already had one for 600 PP, but it was a London special. (It had so much turbo lag I had to keep the revs right up with really short gears ). It would fit in nicely at 500 PP I think. Do you realise it's an L5 engine?

Nothing more to add really.
Great tune 👍👍
It's fun worrying the Integra drivers

I just wonder if it could be made as competitive on S tyres ?

I love showing those Integra drivers what's what. The setup should work on S tyres I guess, just up the power, and watch out for wheelspin. If the gears need lengthening, alter Final ratio only.👍


Edit: @ Apollo87, thanks for the praise of the 147.👍

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

TLD Jaguar XK Coupe
(333kw) (529Nm) (1436kg) (597 PP) (Pro/Standard Physics)​

Performance:

Power: +45
Weight: 85%
Tyres: S3

Settings:

Suspension:
Ride Height: -20/-17
Spring Rate: 5/4
Damper: 6/4
Toe: -0.10/+0.06
Camber: 1.8/1.7

Brake Balance: 2/6

Max Turn Angle: 40

All driving aids are up to driver, tuned with all aids off except ABS at 1

Gear Ratios:
1st: 3.438
2nd: 2.012
3rd: 1.500
4th: 1.175
5th: 0.934
6th: 0.761
Final: 3.895

Description: Looking for something as fast as the 512BB and as easy to use as the Mustang? Welcome to the sexy Jagauar XK. When I entered a race in this beast there was no competition at all. Of course, my opponents were not of the highest caliber, but this car is immensely confidence inspiring, so much so I was doing powerslides just for fun when I was winning the race! Enjoy it, as TLD continues to bring you quality tunes to suit new events.

 

[Apollo87]

Another comment about the 147, I've raced about 5-6 races with it in the 500PP event in Suzuka, all of which had at least one GTP member, so far I've won everyone of those events, and I'll be the first to say that I'm not a very talented driver so I think it's all thanks to the car and the tune it has.

EDIT: I'll try to check out the XK as soon as possible I've always liked the looks of the XK so winning races with that beauty should be very fun.

 

[NLxAROSA]

Oooh, that Jaguar XK looks so sexy. Will give it a go! BTW, I noticed the wheelspin when shortening the gears on the Z06. I did shorten them, but to the point where you can still use the gas to prevent spinning. Admitted, it's not as easy to drive as yours, but still drives very well and has very fast acceleration.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Thanks for the impressive review. It was not a typo, I upgraded it for the new 750 PP events (It's still good for 700 PP). I'm glad you liked it. What PP would you like the Ford GT tuned for, and what physics?

Shoot for 750 and pro physics, no aids except abs 1. If it's anything like the nissan I'll be able to drop the power for 700pp

 

[StevenDunn99]

Another one here who was racing against Integras, Minis & Focuses with the Alfa. You could visibly see the gap open up as I exited corners but too often I was a victim of ramming

I guess if I see any other Alfas they will be GTP members

Thanks & Kudos to the Lion's Den.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Another one here who was racing against Integras, Minis & Focuses with the Alfa. You could visibly see the gap open up as I exited corners but too often I was a victim of ramming

I guess if I see any other Alfas they will be GTP members

Thanks & Kudos to the Lion's Den.

Tell me you're not THE Stevie Dunn who I went on a road trip to skye with last year?

 

[StevenDunn99]

Tell me you're not THE Stevie Dunn who I went on a road trip to skye with last year?

No. And I am never referred to as Stevie, and sadly I have never done a road trip. Visited Skye about 20 years ago with an ex for a 'romantic' weekend

 

[H20HYBRID_GT]

Yeah finally there are new events for the online !
I will be able to check out the new events and settings just after the weekend, im off for holidays in the beautiful country of swizzerland,maybe I can find the Eiger-track? Not sure if it really exists. *Edit- Oh just remembered I managed to be in Zaanfort couple of years ago and didnt see the racetrack ! LOL so chances are i dont find Eiger Track either
Looking forward to drive the 512BB and the JAG ! Are these events pro-physics? Just wondering.
see you then 👍

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Another comment about the 147, I've raced about 5-6 races with it in the 500PP event in Suzuka, all of which had at least one GTP member, so far I've won everyone of those events, and I'll be the first to say that I'm not a very talented driver so I think it's all thanks to the car and the tune it has.

EDIT: I'll try to check out the XK as soon as possible I've always liked the looks of the XK so winning races with that beauty should be very fun.

Cheers, I haven't lost in it yet either, unless I got rammed. The Jag is great fun I think, enjoy. Nice sounding engine too, same as the Mustang right?

Oooh, that Jaguar XK looks so sexy. Will give it a go! BTW, I noticed the wheelspin when shortening the gears on the Z06. I did shorten them, but to the point where you can still use the gas to prevent spinning. Admitted, it's not as easy to drive as yours, but still drives very well and has very fast acceleration.

Oh I bet it accelerates faster, but being able to get on the gas earlier will mean higher exit speeds, so it evens out, except the longer gears will be more consistent, like you said. Glad you're enjoying the car anyway.

Another one here who was racing against Integras, Minis & Focuses with the Alfa. You could visibly see the gap open up as I exited corners but too often I was a victim of ramming

I guess if I see any other Alfas they will be GTP members

Thanks & Kudos to the Lion's Den.

Thanks again. I don't know why they're not using it, it's a great and attractive little car, or at least with my tune hah hah.

Yeah finally there are new events for the online !
I will be able to check out the new events and settings just after the weekend, im off for holidays in the beautiful country of swizzerland,maybe I can find the Eiger-track? Not sure if it really exists. *Edit- Oh just remembered I managed to be in Zaanfort couple of years ago and didnt see the racetrack ! LOL so chances are i dont find Eiger Track either
Looking forward to drive the 512BB and the JAG ! Are these events pro-physics? Just wondering.
see you then 👍

The new events are indeed pro physics , have fun driving my tunes.
Oh, and there is no real road where Eiger is, but it is a tourist destination.

 

[doblocruiser]

@nd 4 holden spd

Just wondering, do you ever sleep

L5 Engine on the Delta I didn't know that. Since it has 4 wheeldrive though I think it can be quite fast on Suzuka. Cornering is one of its stronger points and yes keeping revs high is absolutely nessecary. It accelerates crap under 3000 RPM still one of my real loves in Gran Turismo. I just enjoy myself when I'm in that 80ies cockpit 👍

regards,
galgospeed

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

@nd 4 holden spd

Just wondering, do you ever sleep


regards,
galgospeed

Simple answer? No.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Update: Using Holden's Nissan setup I just shaved .006 off the 700PP Fuji Timetrial andI still reckon I have another 1/4 sec to make up.

I don't have any way of proving this, other than a screenie and also no way to prove I was under 700pp so take this at face value but that nissan setup is the bomb.

What I did notice was that the 1st place ghost was accelerating a lot faster but didn't seem able to hold the bends so good. If you sacrificed a bit of cornering for a faster getaway then I'd be able to knock half a second off that time easy.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Update: Using Holden's Nissan setup I just shaved .006 off the 700PP Fuji Timetrial andI still reckon I have another 1/4 sec to make up.

I don't have any way of proving this, other than a screenie and also no way to prove I was under 700pp so take this at face value but that nissan setup is the bomb.

What I did notice was that the 1st place ghost was accelerating a lot faster but didn't seem able to hold the bends so good. If you sacrificed a bit of cornering for a faster getaway then I'd be able to knock half a second off that time easy.

So you want better turn-in? Try making the toe value a positive one. It has effects I don't like but might be what you're looking for. Also, I still need to know what PP and physics you want the Ford GT tuned for

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Shoot for 750 and pro physics, no aids except abs 1. If it's anything like the nissan I'll be able to drop the power for 700pp

If you can get it to stay on the road at 750 then I'm going for the Suzuka 750TT (next track I need to learn)

Right now I'm about 16 secs off the pace using your tuned vette, + maxed front
spoiler and a little extra bhp

I'm not sure if the Stock GT will cut it but I'd like to try anyhoo

 

[HulaG]

Hey TLD! I Tried your new Jaguar tune. At the beginning i had difficulties with it =D but after I drove it few times trough the suzuka it really was like a thunder! It's a very nice car, incredible fun to drive especially those S corners at the beginning are incredible fun to take them drifty way.

Very nice car! Good Job

Now it's time to try your modified vette!

I was wondering if u have or could try to figure out some nice tune for Amuse S2k for 750PP!

I like the look of that car and it's not slow one either

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

If you can get it to stay on the road at 750 then I'm going for the Suzuka 750TT (next track I need to learn)

Right now I'm about 16 secs off the pace using your tuned vette, + maxed front
spoiler and a little extra bhp

I'm not sure if the Stock GT will cut it but I'd like to try anyhoo

OK, I have the order now for the GT. I'll work on it as soon as I can. 16sec off the pace in the Z06/Tuned or the road Z06? Last time I checked the record at 750 Suzuka was a 1'58. Those guys are freaks but I got a 2'03 flat.

Hey TLD! I Tried your new Jaguar tune. At the beginning i had difficulties with it =D but after I drove it few times trough the suzuka it really was like a thunder! It's a very nice car, incredible fun to drive especially those S corners at the beginning are incredible fun to take them drifty way.

Very nice car! Good Job

Now it's time to try your modified vette!

I was wondering if u have or could try to figure out some nice tune for Amuse S2k for 750PP!

I like the look of that car and it's not slow one either

Hey thanks man:tup: Every RWD car takes some geting used to to find the character of the handling, i.e. where it will slide and how hard you can push it. I don't think the S2K looks good with such a huge wing but I'll work on it for you and get a setup.

 

[Apollo87]

Well I took the XK for a spin basically all da today, and got a very good feeling about it, I didn't win every time mostly because of me trying to drift it, but im pretty sure I was the one having the most fun on the track, those looks and so much fun to drive really gives you a good time that car.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Well I took the XK for a spin basically all da today, and got a very good feeling about it, I didn't win every time mostly because of me trying to drift it, but im pretty sure I was the one having the most fun on the track, those looks and so much fun to drive really gives you a good time that car.

Cool. I tried drifting too, because I was so far in the lead it didn't matter. It's very confidence inspiring. I think that a well driven Clio/Tuned or NSX Type R will hurt it too.