The Metal ThreadMusic

[Omnis]

Cool band from Taiwan. Found them since their guitarist put Railhammer pickups in his guitar. If you can get past the backing vocals, they sound great. Also, the vocalist sounds like chinese Nathan Explosion.

Here are the Railhammers:

 

[Antonisbob]

What I would give to see Anvil live.

They play here often, in 2011 they played some 29+ show I could go to, but in 2012 they returned & it was all ages.



Enjoying me some Overkill lately.

 

[themartlab]

Here's Hollow Chapter, a rock/metal band from Canada. This is their newest single, Snow Angels, which is now available on iTunes!

http://youtu.be/bq_nmW9A_TE

 

[Antonisbob]

World of Tanks + This = Good times.

 

[dylansan]

So I never saw myself as a metal fan, but I'm curious now. What counts as "real" metal?

I know there's lots of different types, and I'm not generally a fan of songs with lots of screaming or with drums too fast to comprehend. I do however like Judas Priest, Motorhead, Metallica, some Megadeth, and others like them. Where does that put me?

 

[Antonisbob]

So I never saw myself as a metal fan, but I'm curious now. What counts as "real" metal?

I know there's lots of different types, and I'm not generally a fan of songs with lots of screaming or with drums too fast to comprehend. I do however like Judas Priest, Motorhead, Metallica, some Megadeth, and others like them. Where does that put me?

That's real metal.

Nu-metal, Screamo etc. is False metal.

 

[Prosthetic]

Nu-metal, Screamo etc. is False metal.

What the hell is Screamo... The only time I ever hear people referring to anything as screamo are people spewing ignorance with their opinion. "Ew I hate screamo stuff" (Don't take this as an attack) I just hate the term screamo and it should never be used to describe anything.

I'll agree with Nu-Metal though I do like some of the better written stuff.

Stuff like the newer Metalcore with non stop breakdowns, Deathcore, Grindcore, Hardcore anything else Core. Non of that is metal. Deathcore is to never be confused with Death Metal. Any band where the line between Hard rock and metal is to blurry I have a hard time considering that metal. Like for instance pretty much anything after the mid 80's from Metallica lacks oomph. There is no time when you listen to and it just clicks in your head and you think... dang that's metal. There are a few songs I like in their later years I don't think its all bad per say. But when I listen to it I get the same kind of vibe as I would get out of something like Chevelle or Soundgarden.

As for wither you like Metal or not its hard to say and the only way to find out is to dive deeper. I used to hate metal, I thought it was all the same and ****** bad, bland mindless noise. I used to listen to a lot of Prog, or hard rock bands with proggy influence. Lots of Rush, King Crimson, Dream Theater, Tool, Yes, Porcupine Tree... Dream Theater has always walked the fine line and they have some very heavy riffs that could fit along the lines of metal very easily. They also have IMO the most key component on determining wither a band could be classified as metal or not and that is atmosphere. Listening to songs like 'As I Am' or 'Panic Attack' with an onslaught of bass from both the drums and bass topped by powerful operatic vocals. To me that is metal.

Another thing people get lost in defining metal is speed. Everyone always thinks metal as just a faster version of rock. Speed has zero determination on wither a band is 'Metal' or not. Look at the early years of Metal, not Iron Maiden, not Judas Priest or Motorhead before that. Early 70's and late 60's it was the slow, down tuned guitars of Black Sabbath that really started it. That isn't 'Heavy Metal' as most people refer to it as, but Doom.



That slow riff... that atmosphere... that is the definition of metal right there.

The only way to know if you like metal is to listen to it.. Chances are if you start listening to bands similar to the ones you listen you will end up wanting more and more as time goes. And then you can look your self in the mirror and say 'I like metal'.

 

[HP]

Jöakim Broden said it best when asked in an interview what genre he considers his band, Sabaton, to be. He replied stating that he is sick of all the sub genres and that whilst he respects that people can call them power metal in his opinion Sabaton play heavy metal, that's it.

A genre is defined only by the person who gives the label, that's why we have so bloody many these days... Gone are the halcyon days of yore when we had half a dozen genres, now there's a genre for everything and it drives me to rage.

A very good friend once said "metal is not a fashion statement, it is a way of life". In my opinion those who get "genre happy" are those likely to treat metal as a fashion statement, it is just metal, period.

/my $0.02

 

[88FoxBodyFan]

Categorizing metal is one of the most non-metal things a person can do. If it's hard, and you like it, then 🤬 what the next person thinks.

Edit: Oh, and the cover art of "Black Sabbath" is one of the great album covers of all time.

 

[Slash]

Anything rock sounding I listen to pretty much. I do like Nu-metal as well.

 

[Prosthetic]

Jöakim Broden said it best when asked in an interview what genre he considers his band, Sabaton, to be. He replied stating that he is sick of all the sub genres and that whilst he respects that people can call them power metal in his opinion Sabaton play heavy metal, that's it.

A genre is defined only by the person who gives the label, that's why we have so bloody many these days... Gone are the halcyon days of yore when we had half a dozen genres, now there's a genre for everything and it drives me to rage.

I used to think along similar lines until I started attending more shows to realize how different they all are. I'm talking major subgenres not tiny down to the smallest detail. I'm not going to sit here and label things like 'Darkened Progressive Thrash Metal' but at the same time you can't tell me Death and Doom are the same... Same thing with Black Metal and Heavy Metal. I attended a Gojira show the other night and I couldn't even begin to tell how different that show was compared to say Down who I saw a few days before. The people that attended are different, how they act is different, the mosh was different, how people DRESSED was different. The culture is completely different. I'm a rare person that in that I intersect a lot of genres. Most metal heads stick to their corner... Prime example is the Iron Maiden thread, (and no offense is attended here) but NWOBHW is practically most of you guys talk about. Which is FINE, but its true.

Another great example, I saw The Gates of Slumber last year they were one of two opening acts for a Japanese band called Church of Misery. Its a Doom band that has similar song writing as a Heavy/Power what ever you want to call it Metal band. Lots of swords and axes and what not... And everyone was chilling nerding it, smoking pot drinking beer and enjoying it. Second band was Hail! Hornet a kind of underground super group... Typical southern swampy sludgy riffs and it was mosh time. The same people, it wasn't different crowd, or even more people it was the same people different genre.

A very good friend once said "metal is not a fashion statement, it is a way of life". In my opinion those who get "genre happy" are those likely to treat metal as a fashion statement, it is just metal, period.

/my $0.02

There is a certain fashion that naturally comes with metal wither you want to admit it or not. When I saw Gojira there wasn't a single person wearing a battle jacket. Not one.

Categorizing metal is one of the most non-metal things a person can do. If it's hard, and you like it, then 🤬 what the next person thinks.

I use genres as mental organization. It has nothing to how much I care about what people think of me. I didn't care when I didn't use and I still don't care now that I do.

 

[Müle]

Categorizing metal is pretty much necessary due to how diverse the genre is. I don't want people to recommend me Sonata Arctica and Edguy when I'm looking for bands that sound like Cannibal Corpse or Suffocation, for example. All of them are metal, but melodic power metal and brutal death metal are on complete opposite ends of the spectrum.

At the same time, saying something like band x is "technical melodic blackened deathrash" is overdoing it. I always try to keep it as simple as possible. Thrash metal, death metal, black metal, power metal, doom metal, folk metal, progressive metal, metalcore, groove metal, gothic metal and heavy/traditional metal is probably all you need, give or take a few.

Then again, there will always be bands above any category, like Celtic Frost.

Also, people who like to say stuff like "it's all just metal" tend to be Slipknot fanboys who get mad when people say that nu-metal isn't metal.

 

[HP]

.At the same time, saying something like band x is "technical melodic blackened deathrash" is overdoing it. I always try to keep it as simple as possible. Thrash metal, death metal, black metal, power metal, doom metal, folk metal, progressive metal, metalcore, groove metal, gothic metal and heavy/traditional metal is probably all you need, give or take a few.

Precisely my point but even then I'd drop groove metal and gothic from that list.

Metal is unique in that the metal genres are all sub genres, of the genre Heavy Metal, in their own right so the additional genres of the like of "symphonic black metal" etc are all sub sub genres.

The desire to break down and re-categorize bands is, in my view, ludicrous and most bands will agree with that. Certainly the ones I deal with do and that includes international and local bands alike as I work with both, a lot.

If the musicians we follow are happy with the normal sub genres (black, death, prog, power et al) then why can't the fans be happy also? Why feel the need to create a dozen more sub sub-genres in order to define that which is already defined?

 

[Northstar]

I like genres purely for organizing, doesn't really go any deeper than that. I will agree also that it gets annoying seeing people bicker about what kind of metal it is, just shut up and listen!!!

 

[Antonisbob]

I don't care if this is their worst album, I really dig this song... Feels like I can relate.

 

[Slash]

Yeah really never cared for Saint Anger but that was one of the stronger songs on the album.

 

[Dustone]

So I never saw myself as a metal fan, but I'm curious now. What counts as "real" metal?

I know there's lots of different types, and I'm not generally a fan of songs with lots of screaming or with drums too fast to comprehend. I do however like Judas Priest, Motorhead, Metallica, some Megadeth, and others like them. Where does that put me?

Dont worry about 'where you are' with metal, just follow what you like. I like a range of metal music from all the genres that are popular and unpopular. IMO (no offence to anyone) but Ive found the fans of metal to be the most judgemental of all the music genres. So I just ignore and follow what music I love whether it is accepted or not

 

[Omnis]

Man, St. Anger is such a bad album. That broke my Metallica phase. It's so bad. The only Metallica I can listen to anymore is stuff from Ride The Lightning.

 

[Antonisbob]

Ignoring the fact it's Metallica, St.Anus (As we call it), isn't that bad.

 

[Slash]

Definitely not my favorite but I guess for it's style it's ok.

 

[braunracing88]

Favorite bands of mine include (in no particular order) Iron Maiden, Accept, Trivium, Metallica, Megadeth, Sabaton, Dream Theater, Lacuna Coil, Motörhead, and Volbeat. I also happen to play in a metal band. Which brings me to this question: Anyone else on here play in a metal band?

 

[Prosthetic]

I still think Kill Em' All is some of the best thrash of the 80's or even ever. I still like MoP and Ride The Lightning and a few things here and there since then. But just listening to early stuff and compare it to later stuff and just the musicianship of their stuff went into the gutter. I still have respect for Kirk but Lars is obnoxious and table sounds the same in every single damn song.


Anyways, I've bought a ton of stuff off of Bandcamp two bands I was already very familiar with (Mose Giganticus and American Heritage) but I found a few bands that are mega awesome.

First being a Doom band that has such an immensely loaded atmosphere that makes me feel like I witnessed a murder in the woods or something. This opening riff pretty much sold me into buying the album.




A few others...







Also bought some other things ranging from Alt Rock to Black Metal.

 

[Slash]

Favorite bands of mine include (in no particular order) Iron Maiden, Accept, Trivium, Metallica, Megadeth, Sabaton, Dream Theater, Lacuna Coil, Motörhead, and Volbeat. I also happen to play in a metal band. Which brings me to this question: Anyone else on here play in a metal band?

I play in a metal band.....it's called Slither.

I still think Kill Em' All is some of the best thrash of the 80's or even ever. I still like MoP and Ride The Lightning and a few things here and there since then. But just listening to early stuff and compare it to later stuff and just the musicianship of their stuff went into the gutter. I still have respect for Kirk but Lars is obnoxious and table sounds the same in every single damn song.

To be honest I love Kill 'Em All but I really think they improved in the coming years following that album. Early stuff, as in '80s-1992 was fantastic compared to new stuff. Though Death Magnetic was alright.

 

[Müle]

St. Anger is at least better than The Unspoken King, and that awful new Morbid Angel album. I'd also sooner listen to it than pretty much any of that deathcore/djent trash.

 

[Slash]

The album Metallica did with Lou Reed is much worse than St. Anger IMO.

 

[Müle]

They did an album with Lou Reed? Are you sure of this?

Spoiler

revisionist history is awesome

 

[Slash]

They did an album with Lou Reed? Are you sure of this?

Spoiler

revisionist history is awesome

http://www.nme.com/news/metallica/63594

 

[Prosthetic]

To be honest I love Kill 'Em All but I really think they improved in the coming years following that album. Early stuff, as in '80s-1992 was fantastic compared to new stuff. Though Death Magnetic was alright.

I don't know... Black was super bland compared to the first few albums. MoP has suffered from far to much praise and people act like its the undeniable greatest metal album of all time. I think that's my problem, people love Metallica way to much... The second they started suing fans when they have massive banks from already making 3-4 massively dull albums. In the 90's they were playing run of the mill radio rock and were still praised as metal gods when most of the other thrash bands were still putting out great stuff. To me there stuff was pretty bad by 92' but that's me.

I honestly liked Death Magnetic when it first came out but over the more I listened to it the more I hated it. It just sounds... bad to me. And everyone already knows the production is terrible on it. It could be so much more, it just sounds too... refined. Boring.

Look at Slayer and Megadeth, they both had there little phase where they made stuff to make the radio happier but it sounded about a 1000 times better.

 

[Slash]

I don't know... Black was super bland compared to the first few albums. MoP has suffered from far to much praise and people act like its the undeniable greatest metal album of all time. I think that's my problem, people love Metallica way to much... The second they started suing fans when they have massive banks from already making 3-4 massively dull albums. In the 90's they were playing run of the mill radio rock and were still praised as metal gods when most of the other thrash bands were still putting out great stuff. To me there stuff was pretty bad by 92' but that's me.

I honestly liked Death Magnetic when it first came out but over the more I listened to it the more I hated it. It just sounds... bad to me. And everyone already knows the production is terrible on it. It could be so much more, it just sounds too... refined. Boring.

Look at Slayer and Megadeth, they both had there little phase where they made stuff to make the radio happier but it sounded about a 1000 times better.

I always like the Black Album, just because the songs were catchy. That said, it doesn't make it any better or worse to the rest of the albums they've put out, prior to. I never cared for Load, Re-Load or Garage Inc, but those did have their moments as well and songs I liked.

Death Magnetic....it's either love it or hate it I think. I like it but I agree there could have been so much more. Some of the songs are great, others are a bit weak. Highlights for me were Suicide and Redemption, The Day That Never Comes, Cyanide, Unforgiven III (was ok), Broken Beat and Scarred and All Nightmare Long. The rest were just "meh". Not like the early albums were every song on them were incredible.

About Slayer and Megadeth, yeah that might be true but either way from my point of view none of it was "terrible" by any standards, just different playstyle from what fans like us were used to.

 

[Northstar]

I like Metallica up to the "Black Album", granted I don't think it's as great as people make it to be but still has its moments. Load/ReLoad-St. Anger was forgettable and there really is only one or two songs from that era I like(King Nothing and Fuel are guilty pleasures of mine). As for Death Magnetic, it felt like they were trying to hard to get back to their 80's sound and it just didn't work, although I do like the cover art.

On a different note, both Adrenaline Mob and Anthrax are coming out with cover EP's next month.