The next-gen MX-5 Miata thread

My 3 is about to get traded. Looks like I will be talking to a salesman about getting the first one we get tomorrow, for sure.
 
Either those wheelwells are absolutely massive, or those are the smallest 16" wheels I've ever seen. I like how it looks, very reminescent of an RX8 from the front.

I'd still get a BRZ though. :indiff:
 
Either those wheelwells are absolutely massive, or those are the smallest 16" wheels I've ever seen. I like how it looks, very reminescent of an RX8 from the front.

I'd still get a BRZ though. :indiff:
The reveal car was a japan spec car with 16" wheels. The car sitting outside was a US spec with 17" wheels.

It looks to me like they're just repeating what mazda said in the past about the 220lb loss, not something they learned tonight.
Damn. Just realized the PR says it's already 100kg+ lighter. My bad @R1600Turbo .
That's what I get for just skimming through it.
 
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I'm with @Omnis on this. Nobody is going to buy a brand new Miata. At least for now....
Yeah, we've heard the story, you're gonna pick it up dirt-cheap used in 5+ years.

I'm just happy that Mazda still has the funds to keep this cheap convertible for the masses going. I think it looks good enough given all the regulation it had to satisfy. Looks smaller than NC, which means my fat ass won't fit comfortably, w/o my head sticking above the car in the wind. Hope I'm wrong though.
 
Can anyone see the redline better than me? Red marks after 7k, full redline at 7,500?

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Looks like 7250? Maybe 7500? The older 2.0L SkyActiv units revved all the way to 6500 RPM... Would this give some credence to it having a tweaked version of that 2.0L unit?
 
Now that looks like a serious little sports car. The 17s are a perfect fit.

Honestly, I'm in love with the FRS but I would seriously consider the Miata. Regardless of price it would basically depend on whether or not I want a convertible. I kind of want a convertible. Also, you know the Japanese aftermarket has been waiting to see this car and will start putting out badass badassness here very shortly.

EDIT: This car's body shape really reminds me of the old Z3.
 
Disappointed. This is a car I might be able to afford in 2-3 years' time, but I just don't like the way it looks at all.

The gaping mouth grille at the front and the slightly squinting headlights look very meh, and the back is downright ugly, those taillights just don't fit into the design at all.
 
The 'in-the-flesh' photos look so much better than the official press photos. Many cars just don't look write in staged environments, and this car is one of them. The above shots it looks great.

It did instantly remind me of the Z3. This is a good thing as I think the Z3 has near-perfect proportions. It also makes me think of the 'ol Panoz Esperante.
 
mmmhhh... what to say... the design features incoherencies here and there, specially in the rear, but as a whole package it works. I would have tried to integrate the round part of the tail-lamps more fuildly, altough I love how they are recessed in the body and not just put there, and maaaaaybe a bit bigger headlamps. I don't know. It looks weird now, but I think it might grow on me with time.

I don't even know if this thing's gonna be available in Mexico, but I hope so.
 
My 1993 Civic weighed 2100lbs back in the day, and those 9" disks up front didn't actually make it stop all that good either.

Mazda "claims" it weighs 100kg less than the outgoing NC. Bet you that's the base model with absolutely zero options vs the fully equipped, top of the line NC. You can claim pretty much anything, it's all BS until there's solid evidence. Remember when the Alfa 4C was weighing 2200lbs before it came out in Europe, and somehow it now weighs 2800lbs in the US?
 
My 1993 Civic weighed 2100lbs back in the day, and those 9" disks up front didn't actually make it stop all that good either.

Mazda "claims" it weighs 100kg less than the outgoing NC. Bet you that's the base model with absolutely zero options vs the fully equipped, top of the line NC. You can claim pretty much anything, it's all BS until there's solid evidence. Remember when the Alfa 4C was weighing 2200lbs before it came out in Europe, and somehow it now weighs 2800lbs in the US?
That's because our Nazi government decided it needed more safety features or some crap. And I bet your Civic had rear drums too. Braking technology has also come a long way since 1993.
 
The Si had 4 wheel discs, although the rears were probably the size of CDs. Technology has come a long way, I'll give you that, but it still looks cheap for something that will most likely cost 30k. Still, this is a pretty useless argument, as people who enjoy driving/racing and hellaflush hard-parkers alike will swap everything for 14" disks and 6 piston calipers.
 
So. Hrmm.

I kinda like it. Not totally convinced yet, but need to see it in a few other colours and preferably in the metal before I make some sort of decision.

Side profile looks great. Front end will take some getting used to, and the rear I don't mind as much as some. I like the cabin - it's slightly weird-Japanese, a bit like the Honda CR-Z or something where controls are kind of scattered around the driver, but they've definitely got some stuff right - a regular spherical gearknob rather than some weird shape as is currently the fashion, and some regular round HVAC controls. Also, a steering wheel with what looks like a relatively thin rim, rather than the other current fashion of a tiny diameter wheel with a needlessly thick rim.

One thing I do agree with though is this:
Looks like a generic roadster now.
It doesn't really look like an 'MX-5' as such. I'm not one for the nostalgia of making every car look like the first incarnation of a vehicle, but by changing the proportions as much as they have it'll take a while to get used to.

On the flip side, I think it probably looks better than the NC. Maybe even the NB. I do still prefer the NA though. Clichéd answer perhaps but it has purity and proportions subsequent MX-5s haven't matched.

If they make a nice cheap version though, or a proper coupe, I'd forgive it anything.
I think they learned with the previous Coupe that it just doesn't sell compared to the convertible.
Are you referring to the PRHT, or the NB coupe? If the latter, then that was only ever meant to be a limited-run vehicle and isn't representative of the popularity of a proper coupe.

And if you meant the former, then I'm not sure that's representative either. Partly because it's not a proper coupe, and partly because I believe it actually did pretty well in terms of sales. Here in the UK certainly.
 
After reading the last few pages .. i can see for myself and i agree with a lot of you:

This car design cues is a mix match between the Z3 - Z4 - S2000 - and a scaled down F-type... those cars are beautiful, but right now i am having a bit of a hard time adjusting... sometimes it looks good, from other angles, its just weird like the new IS...

Hopefully i will , and i think i will, end up liking... loving this miata...
 
Looks like a generic roadster now

The Miata has always been "the generic roadster".

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While I'm sad we won't get to see a "Kodo" MX-5... this isn't bad. the only issue, really, is the relation of the headlights to the rest of the body. They're a bit too low, or the grille is a bit too high.

Doesn't really bother me that much. What's important is this car looks smaller and lighter and I can't wait to get my turn to drive one...
 
The headlights are so tiny. That's refreshing because so many cars these days have enormous housings.
 
The Miata has always been "the generic roadster".
To be fair, I think me meant more "generic modern roadster". Which it kind of is - there's nothing that specifically marks it out as a Mazda, less a Mazda MX-5. While the NC was starting to get a bit contrived the proportions and details weren't a lot different from the NB or NA, whereas this is quite a departure. I like it, but if someone had said to me without me having prior knowledge, "This is the new sub-Z4 BMW roadster" I'd not have said "no, it looks more like an MX-5".
 
That... well, yes. Though it's worth pointing out the NA was as generic as you can get, being basically a carbon copy of the Lotus Elan. The NB and early NC were their own cars, but the NC facelift... I recall a lot of S2k comparisons... :D

Yes, I agree... the ND's shape is a huge departure from the "house style" of the MX-5... but that's a good thing... They're looking more at repackaging for efficiency rather than compromising it to stick to the old pill-style.

I dig.


The headlights are so tiny. That's refreshing because so many cars these days have enormous housings.

Funnily enough... headlights don't need to be anywhere near as big as they are now.

I went gaga over the Accord's LED headlights... but they have their issues... you have tiny lighting elements set deep inside a gigantic chrome and plastic housing that does absolutely nothing for light production.

Granted, Mazda can and does make excellent light clusters... I think here, they went for something purer and more functional.
 

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