You failed to pay close enough attention to see the amount of accidents in those videos that occured from slight bumps.
Yes, sometimes you can get away with bumps, but not always.
In Shift if you control the car after a bump you can sometimes get away with it, while other times you can't.
Are you playing it on the PC or console? Perhaps the horrid lag on the console is affecting that for you...
Also, I'd like to ask if you have even been in or even seen an accident in real life? I mean good lord dude, just look at the chaos from normal driving collisions at low traffic speed on civilian roads.
Hold on,
Don't you find it odd how PD keeps using this excuse? Licensing issue, really, I mean come on PD, we are not stupid (well, apprently some peoaple are). I'd be more inclined to believe it if every other studio was having the same issue, but they are not. Kaz even stated one time (previous GT's) it was actually because the current systems were not powerful enough and if he couldn't make it accurate, he wouldn't include it (not sure why it is in GT5 then seeing as how it's far from accurate). The thing is, PD makes excuses or doesnt covey anything in an understandable manner.
Obvious contradiction?
I call BS!
Do you have the PC version? I'd really like to race you and see this...perhaps you are only driving AWD cars or are not using elite mode.
How am i contradicting myself? Since the games release i have been moaning on here about how the game is too easy to drive and how the i dont have full control over the car. The lack of proper oversteer and understeer, the lack of traction loss, the over the top grip on starts.
These are the cars i used.
Mazda MX5
Toyota Supra MkIV
NFS Mustang
Corvette Z06
Shelby Cobra
Mclaren Mp4-12c
Mclaren F1
Nissan GT-R
+ Whatever loan cars i used in the events.
What i mean by "Not 100% control of the car" this is not that I cannot drive the car, but that the game attenuates my inputs, meaning that driving it properly is not necessary, instead you are encouraged to point and squirt your way around the track. F1 2010 was also much like this, I would enter a corner and pick my steering angle and i would not have to make any corrections, just point and squirt my way around, but i liked F1 2010 because it didnt have any input delay, and wasnt trying to be overly dramatic all the time. That said the AI did cheat by ghosting in the pits or not pitting, the game was full of bugs and the driving physics were too semi-sim for my liking, a bit like Shift 2!
If you also read my posts in the "shelved Shift 2" thread you would know that i no longer have the game on my computer due to the issues with the graphics drivers causing crashes in the game, i played to 60% before stopping.
You just seem to want to argue and get defensive for the sake of it. I watched the first video you posted and merely saw a bunch of cars crashing, even if some of them did happen due to small bumps the video clips cut in at a point where you could never tell how half of them happened, i did not see any incidents in that video that were caused by slight bumps, not a single one. IF you read my posts you would say that i said that crashes caused by small rubs and bumps are unrealistic "Most of the time". You keep reading the parts you want to hear and ignoring the rest.
And for me to probably mention for the 1000th time that i have it on Elite mode.
It still feels that
A. Traction control is on, way too much traction available
B. ABS is present - Too difficult to lockup the wheels, and too easy to turn while braking hard.
C. Autocountersteer - Lack of any need to make real corrections during driving, too forgiving of bad driving due to this factor.
You can believe your Elite mode if you want. I think your problem lies with a lack of experience, go play Rfactor, iRacing, Netkar, Live for Speed, Ferrari Virtual Academy, GTR Series. Then go and experience a track day in a sports road car. Then take your buddies and do a Karting day at a decent karting venue.
Then come back to Shift 2 and be like "lol this is so easy, i dont have to do anything!" Point and squirt.
iRacing is currently on offer, 3 months for the price of 1 for the basic package, coming in at $12. Try it out.
